asciilifeform: 'The "extra" pinchers are attached to a LCR meter for the machine to "measure" each component before it put it down! You wont find that on the $5K Chinese machines!' << had no idea this existed. anywhere.
asciilifeform: 'They've Killed President Lincoln!' (1971.)
asciilifeform: films like 'dr strangelove' where 'everybody dies' not count ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: only him and no one else?
asciilifeform saw that it was shelved - unsurprisingly - next to a volume of pushkin, in russian.
asciilifeform randomly wandered into an old book store last night, saw a textbook on romanian language. every chapter opened with some example of torments from the 'russian yoke.'
asciilifeform: (answer: they will - if you pay. but who will pay.)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: now why would they make those for export.
asciilifeform: at some point the japanese parts will no longer get shipped in (won't pass the geiger at the container crane!) and then we'll really be phucked.
asciilifeform: or, alternatively, purchasing a unit where there never were chinese caps (difficult now - the chicoms have taken to mimicking the japanese markings)
asciilifeform: one can still achieve the 10+ life - by removing all chinese electrolytic caps and replacing with normal ones
asciilifeform: that machine served me through all of uni & a bit longer. RIP 'humanoid', 2001-2007. (named after line from soviet film, approximately 'humanoid rockets through the sky, screaming out that school's a lie')
asciilifeform: you get a 'sarcophagus' similar to the one pictured in the $20k oscilloscope film.
asciilifeform: this is SOP for large rectifiers, etc.
asciilifeform: if plinth is large enough, no need for water.
asciilifeform: if i were to attempt it again, i'd probably just machine a copper plinth in which the mobo can live, upside-down, with fins on bottom side.
asciilifeform: that box would have probably lasted forever if it never had to be moved.
asciilifeform: idea was, bridges would be cooled by air drawn upwards by power supply fan.
asciilifeform: considering that it was designed to dissipate 100kw - reasonable.
asciilifeform: the mosfets did not cook themselves - internal thermal trip. you get a shutdown.
asciilifeform: water line ran through two cpus, disk jacket, gpu. there was still some air circulation from power supply (conventional air cooling.) but sans case fan, machine would croak reliably.
asciilifeform: the box in question would croak after 48 hrs. or so if the case was not ventilated.
asciilifeform: heuristic: if mosfet has even a small 'hedgehog', the board designer thought pcb trace cooling to be insufficient.
asciilifeform: now if only pcb had a 'water jacket' like engine block...
asciilifeform: my sole objective was to get a silent machine
asciilifeform: pc mobo is encrusted with items like mosfets that presume circulation of air
asciilifeform: artifexd: any that guarantee operation with 100% hermetically sealed case? (no case fans)
asciilifeform was disappointed with water cooled machine even while it worked, on account of it still needing a few fans to operate: various parts for which no water block was available (chipset, mosfets, and power supply of that period)
asciilifeform: artifexd: then the answer is clear. 'teflon' tape on the threads, connectors glued (or welded, if copper hose) to the tube.
asciilifeform: the ones i had were machined copper encased in a plastic water jacket, with plastic barbs (non-removable)
asciilifeform: artifexd: neat. these weren't available a decade ago.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: part of the problem is the abysmal, 'consumer' quality of the available thermoblocks (pumbed heat sinks that fit particular cpu, gpu, etc) - not one, afaik, to this day, comes with even threaded connectors
asciilifeform: artifexd: there's probably a golden mean here. a real 'saint' with a dynamometer wrench probably could've tightened the clamps exactly enough.
asciilifeform: artifexd: mine had hose clamps on all joints. theory - clamping deforms the barb, you leak anyway.
asciilifeform: the photos i saw were of immersive oil cooling (think transformer booth)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it's the friction joints (hose to barb) that end up slowly leaking.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the 'correct' way to do it is to have an all-copper loop, soldered joints - like refrigerator. but, for some reason, no one does this.
asciilifeform tired of drowned hardware many years ago, won't touch water cooling now
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ground fault gizmos are SOP even in gringolandia now
asciilifeform: artifexd: does nothing for a short. only for arse.
asciilifeform: artifexd: common widget, usually installed inside kitchen mains sockets, which senses even small difference between current flowing in through 'hot' and leaving through 'neutral' wire (e.g. through your arse)
asciilifeform: artifexd: if water cooling, install 'ground fault interrupter'
asciilifeform: one would suppose. but the author of the linked article might disagree
asciilifeform: bricks have views. we just don't know how to ask them what they are.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: next, they order the blockchain whipped. and branded.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu can apparently reprocess anything into a useful feedstock. like the chicago stockyards famously used 'even the squeal of the pig.'
asciilifeform: 'uber' is just another in a long line of chumpatrons which work by persuading some chumps to make idiotic business decision, and packaging/selling the result to other chumps
asciilifeform: incidentally, i recently read a hilarious book by a russian who drove a taxi in new york in the '70-'80s. 'желтые короли' ('yellow kings.' in english translation - which apparently exists - 'taxi from hell')
asciilifeform: wouldn't the increased fiat pull of btc today compensate? e.g. for 30k btc one can build an actual skyscraper - which proceeds to fall...
asciilifeform: or is there reason to think that we've reached a 'ground state' where all of the money has left the 'fool pockets'
asciilifeform: nobodies who got in in 2013... meagre disposable income already made it impossible for them to matter << not so simple. chumpatronic engineers, malware artists, etc. who got in 2013 (or even today) can still accumulate enough to build plenty of falling skyscrapers
asciilifeform: or, one could say, the cost of a maniac spinning round and round with machine gun is not merely the wasted lead.
asciilifeform: if i recall, this used to be called 'externality'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: very pessimistic, but probably true. the inevitable conclusion is 'biodiesel.'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: aha i recall, you described this lemma in the 'tin woman' essay
asciilifeform: from a different angle: why no cheap factorygurlz in usa? because the 'candidates' are instead paid to sit and wank
asciilifeform: who will replace the uranium that wasn't mined?
asciilifeform: the people who did that kickstart, for instance, are separated from their true motherland - the uranium mines - for so long as the money lasts them.☟︎
asciilifeform: it isn't wasted 'correctly' though. it ends up feeding folks who ought to have gone hungry
