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asciilifeform: since no one groks, looks like i'll have to 'draw a picture.'
Naphex: asciilifeform: i'm talking from a server end point, i don't have to keep user secret. just public key
asciilifeform: even if a con artist has fooled him into thinking otherwise
asciilifeform: Naphex: what i'm trying to get across is that a fellow with yubikey in his pocket is, in fact, 'holding a secret'
Naphex: for me it promises a OTP, from the user. which i can validate without holding a secret
benkay: I WOULD LIKE A CARDANO PLZ
asciilifeform: benkay: it promises that a private key can be sent in the post, left plugged in at wiring closet, etc. without danger.
asciilifeform: ed felten's words, 'try to make a safe that can be left in burglar's living room' sums up the issue
Naphex: ;;rate asciilifeform 1 NSA Should make a open OTP Token
gribble: Error: 'asciilifeform' is not a valid integer.
Naphex: ;;rate 1 asciilifeform NSA Should make a open OTP Token
Naphex: ;;rate 1 asciilifeform NSA Should make a open OTP Token ;]
Naphex: well - a completly open OTP token, with hardware for sale would make a killin'
asciilifeform: you gotta transport the secret to the user << did i wake up today in a parallel universe where public-key crypto was never invented ?
asciilifeform: just in a box
Naphex: well, i just use it as a solution for OTP without handling private keys
asciilifeform: and undertakes to solve a problem to which there can be no solution
Naphex: i'm not trumpeting yubikey, but i don't know of a better OTP atm
Naphex: so a backdoor /trojan wouldn't get it without a huge sample size
asciilifeform: that's a response?
Naphex: there is a response bit more down
asciilifeform: a closed gadget suggests that there is something to be gained from learning what has been kept closed.
Naphex: which you would need to generate a valid otp
fluffypony: benkay: yeah the whole thing is a joke
benkay: fluffypony: you missed the conversation where we mocked sfi for just listing a bunch of other people's projects on their havelock page.
asciilifeform: it's never a question of 'maxtrust'
Naphex: but it's a level above
Naphex: i use a yubikey neo, and i'm pretty happy with it
asciilifeform: the hardware makes a promise.
thestringpuller: mike_c: good point ;) man that was a long time ago
Naphex: everything else gets dunked a long way from there
thestringpuller: or they can dump unencrypted memory with a 0 day exploit you have no idea about yet trust your system completely
Naphex: thestringpuller: honestly if you have a well designed system, that gets breached and you get ninja'd out of the 10 hotwallet BTC
thestringpuller: Joe Giner isn't worth a security breach
danielpbarron: what's more secure; using a machine that was set up before Bitcoin existed and hasn't been updated since; or a totally fresh install?
Naphex: after a phone call
Naphex: but wait 5mins on a withdrawal, and you're gonna get an email
thestringpuller: why do you want a hot instant wallet?
Naphex: why would i when i want a hot instant wallet?
Naphex: its a dead end
thestringpuller: cause what you're describing is a semi-permeable airgap
Naphex: but what i'm thinking is just a notification system for BitcoinD clusters, track txid's, addresses and confirmations
dexX7: mind to share a link?
Naphex: either that or in reverse, where it connects to a aggregate server, and that just runs pubsub
dexX7: aka you want to rebuild a bitcoin client?
Naphex: danielpbarron: dexX7 i'm thinking like listen to a port/unix socket
dexX7: anyway. Naphex: i did only follow the last lines, so i'm not 100 % sure, if your intention is clear to me -- if you are looking for a simple solution to establish some kind of "bitcoin based event notification system", you may use the (redirected) debug output as basis which could be parsed and processed further
thestringpuller: lol you want to sign a transaction offline then transmit it to the nodes whenever?
thestringpuller: in all seriousness you shouldn't haven't have a full wallet on a computer
Naphex: A. UNIX Socket / Local Socket - Connect to it, start broadcasting notifications
Naphex: for a first implementation do notification with:
Naphex: so in my offtime i'm implementing a decent notification system in bitcoin core
kakobrekla: myea thats a point
mike_c: kakobrekla, would it be troublesome to add a primary key to http://bit4x.com/panacea/history/? seems to me there isn't a reliable way to determine uniqueness. you could very well have two trades with the same.. everything.
pankkake: reply in notice on !up would be nice too, because I just /msg the bot, and the reply opens a query
kakobrekla: its a thing i made many years ago Naphex
Naphex: kakobrekla: is there a list / help of assbot commands?
pankkake: I see "How to fail gracefully as a Bitcoin business"
thestringpuller: you're a special one aren't you?
pankkake: no idea, besides a bitcointalk username
pankkake: BCB: a guy named kumala
pankkake: that crumbs guy is a hero
fluffypony: as if that's a bastion of legitimacy :-P
fluffypony: still a fun read
pankkake: otherwise I'll do it with a RSS parser I know, which already handles the "is this thing new" aspect
pankkake: I'm looking at how I can do that with venus (the tool I use to build blogs.b-a). the sending to irc part is easy, I already have a dumb bot for that
kakobrekla: well how about you post a new post notification to me?
pankkake: it's a cron, so everything is static
kakobrekla: pankkake do you run a cronjob there or is that site built on the fly
pankkake: next step is a bot to notify of new posts
fluffypony: kakobrekla: I've actually got another blog post that is just waiting for April results, I'll include a link to that in it
mircea_popescu: wao hey, can you send me a shipment of those copper rounds ?
cazalla: moiety: didn't see any male midwives while my wife was in hospital (private), i wouldn't mind being a lactation consultant, it was pretty sweet watching the younger ones caress the missus' tits for milk :P ☟︎
HoreaV: mircea_popescu: hey back, Naphex is still setting me up with the console and explaining. i'll be done in a sec
moiety: male midwives get a hard time too
moiety: thats often a comfort thing
mircea_popescu: i know women who won't use a male gyn, to their detriment, as male gyns are usually better. but hey, her lyf, her call.
moiety: i did have a female doctor who a patient leave her caseload because she was seen out at a pub on a weekend, which was ridiculous.
mircea_popescu: ends up generally misrepresented as "well the problem is he propositioned her". nonsense. the problem is he apparently has the discernment of a five year old.
mircea_popescu: a doctor shouldn't have to follow some ultimately absurd behaviour guidelines, because he's an adult, and a patient should not have to depend that the doctor does follow such, or that they're adequate, because he has no options.
mircea_popescu: tell him my concerns are that he's a fucktard, and ask him to please address them.
mircea_popescu: but you're always in a position of trust. this "position of trust" analysis is bollocks. at the very least you trust the random passerby not to mug you.
fluffypony: lawlz seedcoin: "We have regular contacts with institutional investors, I am not sure how many institutional investors may have expressed a lack of confidence (publicly or to you) in what we do, if they have I would be happy to answer their concerns, but I wished to inform you that the institutional and angel investors we have been in contact with have expressed great confidence in Seedcoin and our support to crypto startups."
moiety: this is true. the problem with him being picking someone that had severe issues around it when he was in a position of trust rather than a nurse/doctor/person in the street
mircea_popescu: if a society isn't willing to put up with "inappropriate" propositioning, that society will have to put up with specially designated "proposition pens" where everyone's fcking awkward and the whole thing's unpleasant.
mircea_popescu: it's a common mistake of the pompously clueless, and good sister of the entire "trolls are bad for society" mtyh
moiety: she was mid-moan about her life and he asked her for a blowjob apparently
moiety: no he wasnt a customer, he was her psychiatrist
fluffypony: because that's a great basis for "trust"
mircea_popescu: and shouldn't be called a wot in the first place.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the gpg wot is imo a broken beyond belief implementaiton
moiety: one of our locum psychiatrists allegedly propositioned a stripper in her appointment. he actually went to her club and asked for her by name later
moiety: deserves a smack in the face
moiety: "I had to think of something that would relax her ... I thought I'd stimulate her clitoris to get access to the inside to do that proper examination, hoping that she'd relax." WTF .... a woman that avoided internal exams .... kden thats really going to relax her
mircea_popescu: "A doctor charged with sexually assaulting a patient at Dapto Medical Centre has told a court he took the unusual step of stimulating the woman on his clinic couch after she clamped down on his finger with her private parts, aggravating an injury to his shoulder."
cazalla: moiety: he was actually struck off this year for getting personal with a patient heh - http://www.illawarramercury.com.au/story/2167211/court-hears-dapto-doctor-defend-examination/
cazalla: i went to a walk in medical centre with issues about my neck as I couldn't get an appointment at my usual GP, the GP at the walk in just assumed I was after pain meds and wrote a script for endone (oxycodone) without any hesitation to get me the fuck out of there ☟︎
mircea_popescu: and to think that he could have a banner for .1 btc
mircea_popescu: so anyways i ask the guy what he doing in/with bitcoin and he says he "just left a start-up and wants to be a core dev" << so send him here.
HeySteve: https://soundcloud.com/mindtomatter/ltb-e104-tree-chains-with <- worth a listen