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phf: i will admit
though, i didn't expect
this level of hypocrisy from
the progressives, i was
to some extent
taking what
they are saying at face value
☟︎ trinque: asciilifeform:
this marks
the coming of Great Again.
trinque: delicious. I hope
they burn
the place down.
a111: Logged on 2016-11-11 01:27 ben_vulpes:
they waltzed out onto i5,
the corridor from mexico
to canada
mircea_popescu: incidentally, after all
the blather about how russia influenced
the elections (hey, check it out, russia can do
that!) where's
the articles about how sweden organised protests against
trump ?
Framedragger: ..yeah i'm not going for sindarin or w/e language(s)
tolkien invented. could be fun, but.. eh
jurov: Framedragger: was interested into psychology, went
to read in original
mircea_popescu: possibly cuz
that's what he read ? you certainly won't starve in any of
the ones mentioned.
mircea_popescu: lol. you know, if you drive
to
the starbucks it doesn't follow you actually stopped
the car inside
the booth.
mircea_popescu: (yes,
the reason mp doesn't lisp may have a lot
to do with
the absence of hot lisp chicks.)
mircea_popescu: Framedragger i never learned a language any other way, and
this includes fucking latin.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: nice,
that sounds.. not like a chore. some very nice advice
to be
tried..
thanks.
jurov: Framedragger: if literature,
then defo go for german
mircea_popescu: languages are
to be learnt from women. so go out with girls you like, pick
the first one who also has a lot of booksat home, learn her language.
Framedragger: i'd like
to be able
to read some god damn decent literature in something else
than english or lithuanian (the latter is an OK language,
too bad it's language of proles)
Framedragger: i haven't decided. last
time it happened i was in high school. healthy dose of conversation + good
textbooks,
though
that is not really a concrete process at all.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: incidentally, any recommendation on which of
the following
to pick
to learn as a new
tongue? (sample at hand is due
to some future pragmatical considerations, in
terms of possible living places etc. - maybe not he last entry): french (i can't french at all), german (some knowledge), portuguese (none), russian (very rudimentary, call it none)
mircea_popescu: (and yes, i'm saying
that
the
typical reasoning, "he said grab
them by
the pussy
therefore he disrespects women" is not simply due
to
the speaker being stupid, or lazy. it's also how english happens
to work, internally.)
mircea_popescu: there's a reason
the perfidious islands produced nothing in
their entire history.
that reason has
to do
to how
there isn't even
the words
to
translate properly, so either
they hide behind some greek statue located in a french garden, or else
they make with
the common nouns.
Framedragger: i've never read
the latter, and my deutsch is bad (but in principle passable with a dictionary at hand, possibly)
mircea_popescu: the problem with
treason is
that you can't identify which it is
mircea_popescu: the problem with
trason isn't
that you can't find a faithful
translation.
Framedragger: (they're supposed
to be proper names, not just 'table')
Framedragger: though,
then it's not clear
that 'morning star' and 'evening star' are *proper* names (like Jacob), so...
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: good point. a fair note
though, some
translations use 'morning star' and 'evening star', which convey
the meaning well, i
think.
mircea_popescu: stay away from
translation, for
translation is
treason.
mircea_popescu: stay away from
translations ; especially in philosophy (which is everything besides plumbing) ; especially when
translated into english ; and especially when
translated from german.
mircea_popescu: it's no longer evident like in
that Nazi's naive packaging. It's good for
the economy! It creates jobs!
mircea_popescu: you see what
the anglotards did ?
they replaced
the names ; but not innocently.
they replaced
to serve
the
two
things anglotards are all about : a fake loftyness (oh noes, really, classical names by
the classically educated ? except medieval fakes ? ohoho how very cheers-vilised we find ourselves,
that frasier crane will eat his heart out!) and a practical confusion. Now you need ~them~
to explain
to you what
the names mean,
mircea_popescu: anyway, frege's own example is much better
than
the latter retellings in english. he used der Abendstern and der Morgenstern.
Framedragger: 'prenatal child gets introduced
to semantics' kind of mental blur >.<
Framedragger: "but if
the first star is planet venus and
the second star is planet venus,
then.. WHO WAS PHONE"
Framedragger: my whole worldview is an array of name-object confusions. half of my mental life is like
that "hesperus is phoshorus" problem
mircea_popescu: this is what
they mean when
they say reddit makes one stupid : "social media"
tends
to drive
this name-object confusion in young'uns.
Framedragger: look i didn't have much hope for
this eurolaw
thing on google etc, i did however assume
that
to circumvent it, one would have
to spend at least a few minutes (masking IP whatnot), not a few seconds
mircea_popescu: the most important point here is
that you for some god forsaken reason ACTUALLY
THOUGHT, in your head,
that if you write "whore" in lipstick on
the back of your wife you're now fucking a whore.
a111: Logged on 2016-11-11 01:17 asciilifeform:
the flow charts add 0
to
the expressivity
Framedragger: okay,
this is ridoinculously ineffective. lol.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: fuck, you're right. "Some results may have been removed under data protection law in Europe" when running from google eu; both
trilema URLs when running from .ar. what is
this nonsense
mircea_popescu: this is like saying a frenchman would see
the internet in french even if he called
trilema.com
Framedragger: i got confused. basically, i
think a european customer would get
the same (doctored) results if
they ran a search on .ar.
mircea_popescu: "but mp, in
the game
they're playing
this makes sense
to
them" "okay ?"
Framedragger: so yes it's super
trivial, but
then - .eu can't dictate google's search results for non-european customers
mircea_popescu: there's exactly no relation between url and geolocation is
there ?
Framedragger: i'm sure
that google did not want
to do more
than was required, so
they made
the effects visible on
the "european" version of google, for european users (the latter identified by ip address or, if logged into google accounts, selected country
there; or somesuch).
mircea_popescu: are you proposing
that
there's some sort of substance
to an url, like "searching on google.com.ar" is somehow similar
to "fucking girls in
the alley behind
the bar IN ROUEN rather
than Bekescsaba" ?
mircea_popescu: i don't get it,
they lack
the letters a and r on eu keyboards ?
Framedragger: I am of course not disagreeing with
the spirit of
the matter, incl. regarding impotence etc.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: re.
http://trilema.com/2015/trilema-burns/ : you write
that "Apparently
the EU is about as impotent in practice as its fame for impotence promises in
theory" in response
to you being able
to search for
that person on google.com.ar ; whereas
that letter plainly states
that "Only results on European versions of Google are affected."
trinque: I guess I'll never read anything
they wrote again
trinque: mats: what's so fancy about
that page
that even
the
text doesn't load without JS?
mats: which, on
the subject, is also really good with chinese now
mats: i use google
translate
trinque: amazing
the
things you can get for
the cost of a couple pizzas if you hate "our" future
trinque: speaking of good days, I received a shipment of 6 boxen for new payment related adventures
today.
trinque: thus dawns a new day, I
tell ye
trinque: first first lady with nudes. what's not
to like?
BingoBoingo has seen very few people despondent about
Trumpreich, only a couple angry, and many "grudgingly" accepting while smiling.
a111: Logged on 2016-10-31 15:12 mircea_popescu: very weird,
the list of nonsense
these people sprout. it's as if
they have 0 reflexive capacity whatsoever, how am i supposed
to distinguish google "ai" from some douche who spits out " Your style of just summarily shitting on how
the author wrote
this piece adds no value
to
the discussion." ?
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> ahahaha
the new civil servant gang strategy : prosecute clinton a la vapeur so obama can pardon her and she gets double jeopardy protection. << It's alright. She can roam free while she watches
the rest rot in jail starting with Huma Weiner.
trinque: I don't fault him for his deep confusion; he's a born slave and has no one
telling him what
to do.
trinque: Afraid
that I'll be perceived as anti feminist << yes, deprived of
the dulap.
mats: >I do not feel anger
toward my assailant, for I see him most as a product of an unjust world. A product of an upbringing marked by war and deprivation.
mircea_popescu: ahahaha
the new civil servant gang strategy : prosecute clinton a la vapeur so obama can pardon her and she gets double jeopardy protection.
ben_vulpes: even 12k a year if you want
to spend it.
mircea_popescu: motherfucker woman grabber making me pay for
the human rights.
ben_vulpes: over here you only go
to public school if you can't afford
the private ones
mircea_popescu: when i was a kid, not going
to public school was pretty much a public admission of mental retardation. "oh, poor ionescus,
their kid has
to go
to
that fingerpainting no grades private
thing."
ben_vulpes: and pray
tell what drugs would i need kids help procuring?
mircea_popescu: how do you
think you'll get your drugs in your old age if you don't give him a chance
to learn
the biz when he's young ?
ben_vulpes: "45%
tax rate and i can't even discuss putting my kid in a public school with a straight face"
ben_vulpes: very few
things beat winding up
the girls, but winding up my parents over
this miserable horseshit is fantabulously fun.
mircea_popescu: it's שנויץ for
the love of fuck. /ʃnawt͡s/. wtf is schnoz.
mircea_popescu: (/me once said at party,
to obvious female dressed as female etc, "i bet you have a huge schlong". everyone burst out laughing and she... well... left.)
ben_vulpes: was
there a particular
timestamp of glory, asciilifeform ?
ben_vulpes: they waltzed out onto i5,
the corridor from mexico
to canada
☟︎