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mircea_popescu: i just didn't realise you meanwhile reverted :D
asciilifeform: ( for approx same reason that it doesn't work for bitcoin )
asciilifeform: the 10,000,000 html turdlets approach doesn't work tho.
asciilifeform: it'll have to be rewritten, aha, this isn't really workable.
asciilifeform: and no, i don't have a ready collection of it, because i have ONE motherfucking pair of hands
mircea_popescu: well certainly phuctor hasn't been under massive ddos for months!
mircea_popescu: i don't see msec there. i see seconds
asciilifeform: it doesn't even pretend to 'look like people'
asciilifeform: this ain't a wordpress.
Framedragger: i just mean that a box behind NAT won't show up in that !$ssh query
asciilifeform: fuck no, these ain't browsers
gabriel_laddel_p: asciilifeform: Absurdity. Carver Mead's G4V presentation comes across far better in his video than in his paper, and the video includes slides that don't exist elsewhere.
a111: Logged on 2017-05-18 16:20 phf: i don't share the anti-postscript sentiment. i think it's a maxwell's equation of graphics programming. introduces idea of graphics state stack, with operations that happen inside state or in transition between state (e.g. "displace everything that i said so far by n pixels right") . pretty much all the graphics code (including for example opengl) is a variation on what postscript does. and most of the things postscript does simply doesn't make any sen
asciilifeform: they ain't about to simply give up.
Framedragger: trinque: while at it i'll just mention that mine still doesn't have teh old ratings, not that i need them any time soon, just adding to the list. god knows my own list is long :(
asciilifeform: various idiocies, i can't be arsed to catalogue'em all
mircea_popescu: fine, but i find it rather lulzy that apparently i have to worry about "Bitcoin revenue", as if i can't trade fiatola for bitcoin like anyone else ; and that somehow i should be worried while sitting on technology the usg couldn't replicate in spite of trying for a coupla years.
asciilifeform: or the slightly more advanced kakobreklan version, 'oh that wasn't mircea_popescu's thing, it was asciilifeform , mircea_popescu only drinks his blood'
mircea_popescu: i can't talk about being a pimp on the clear net ? holy shit i wrote the fucking textbook on it ?
mircea_popescu: i dunno, 've not been following, but anyway. i can't recall him doing something over the years.
phf: my point though is that i don't know an alternative to platonic postscript (which can be closely executed in adobe postscript, but also ghostscript, etc.) when it comes to doing graphics. in this case adobe postscript is a kind of c bitcoin
mircea_popescu: the 2-3 transition may be argued as "oh, like i wouldn't have figured that twirl on my own anyway". nevertheless, the 2-5 continuity doth revolve around warnock fellow.
phf: se in a physical printing world. i don't know any prior art to postscript, but i don't think publishing is it. most of the things postscript does simply doesn't make sense in a physical publishing
phf: i don't share the anti-postscript sentiment. i think it's a maxwell's equation of graphics programming. introduces idea of graphics state stack, with operations that happen inside state or in transition between state (e.g. "displace everything that i said so far by n pixels right") . pretty much all the graphics code (including for example opengl) is a variation on what postscript does. and most of the things postscript does simply doesn't make any sen ☟︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this wasn't a 'shannonizer', but a thing that takes small state machine automaton and computes expansion of N steps 'impossibly' quickly
asciilifeform: but it is narrowly specific to scans. doesn't do vector-graphics a la postscript
mircea_popescu: text shouldn't have backwards N in it anyway.
mircea_popescu: point being, there was some software running the crap knuth didn't like, wrote replacement.
mircea_popescu: but this wasn't a core item in the original was it ?
asciilifeform: it isn't a thing which anyone, outside a printing house perhaps, has any business doing on a regular basis.
a111: Logged on 2017-05-18 15:19 mircea_popescu: and if you aren't actually moving objects around, it's just dead weight.
mircea_popescu: the reason our brains work and computers don't is, to a significant portion, that our brains actually define what PASSES FOR sense.
a111: Logged on 2017-05-18 15:10 Framedragger: it'd really be great if there were a ~decent pdf2html tool, with no JS. and i don't mean just "extract and dump plaintext", i can do that, too.
mircea_popescu: and for the record, soap operas, action movies, talk shows etc haven't replaced literature strictly because there's no way to say "we're in the business of emission, make your own fucking receiver sets" when it comes to television. that and no more.
mircea_popescu: girls going "i don't know how to tell you this" are in for a beating on the strength of that alone, meanwhile whole generation of dorks having not much to say at all fretting ineptly about ~the way~ they're saying it / "presenting themselves" expect this to somehow work.
mircea_popescu: the content is never the problem. it always and universally goes to shit when they attempt to control ~the consumption~ of content. hence drm and css, hence return mid paragraph "because i don't want YOU to scroll horizontally" etc.
mircea_popescu: really. i don't want to watch some dork on video. i don't want to watch his stupid slides. i don't want to watch his facebook. really all this "rich content", diagrams-hyelogryphs-bs is only there because illiterate monkey has nothing to say.
mircea_popescu: i can't imagine why it wouldn't be.
mircea_popescu: of course the cunts in question wouldn't actually be fonts, but anyway. wtf-8.
mircea_popescu: and if you aren't actually moving objects around, it's just dead weight. ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-05-18 15:10 Framedragger: it'd really be great if there were a ~decent pdf2html tool, with no JS. and i don't mean just "extract and dump plaintext", i can do that, too.
Framedragger: it'd really be great if there were a ~decent pdf2html tool, with no JS. and i don't mean just "extract and dump plaintext", i can do that, too. ☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: surprising number of gui proggies -- don't
asciilifeform: or at least all tried thus far. ( i suspect that it doesn't like vertical display )
Framedragger: that i don't understand, either. all them web designers, too, gotta protect those PNGs in transit
mircea_popescu: "oh but mp, you wouldn't be linking to me anyway" "and this says what about you ?"
mircea_popescu: and in general -- if curl -k can't get you, you really don't exist.
mircea_popescu: isn't that from years ago ?
Framedragger: it can't? it loaded it for me! huh
mircea_popescu: i don't even care, myself!
mircea_popescu: dude, archive.is can't load his dumbass site. what do you want from me.
Framedragger: i don't recall but i believe you can define ~all the params for DH key exchange in ssl, i think
asciilifeform: in protest against the nonsense where people ( who insisted on using ssl, but originally this was made mandatory for users of visa ) had to pay rentseeking hucksters thousands for 'this cert will work and browsers won't complain'
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: just fyi, the site (osalabs.com) loads - you don't have a root CA which signed their certificate (letsencrypt cert). of course the point is still valid
asciilifeform: can't disagree here
asciilifeform: i dun see how this is unclear, if i walk into bezzlebroker with 1% of what house costs, i can't walk out with 1% of a house.
mircea_popescu: if you can't buy, it just means IT CANT SELL.
asciilifeform: real estate is quantized, asciilifeform can't go and buy a ~usable~ square metre of land for 1000 $
mircea_popescu: i don't see it. piece of orbital rubbish 1/10^9 of planet doesn't go "you know what, your force isn't enough to move planet a meter, but i'll move 2*10^9 meters because hey, i'm just piece of rubbish not planet!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i don't comprehend this logic. how exactly is economy supposed to cease functioning once you enter your own door ? does water, strictly flowing downhill at the office, change its mind at home ? do you see it jump out of the sink, against gravity, and figure "oh, but of course, i'm not at work anymore duh!"
asciilifeform: only reason i haven't posted one yet is the square, presently making a proper one
mircea_popescu: also loads various infos on screen so you don't keep having to go "explain x" to see what x.table is ACTUYALLY named
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform web interface, prepopulates selects and etc so you don't have to type them.
mircea_popescu: i don't imagine these people are all trillionaires and so couldn't possibly care less about a million-ish item, chiefly because the us has no trillionaires.
mircea_popescu: or what, you're going to tell me these prices aren't based on discounted cash flows and other such actuarial judgements ? in the world's greatest economy the world's smartest people acting like a bunch of nation of africa retards ? unthinkabru!
mircea_popescu: i don't get it, there's a price higher than list ?
ben_vulpes: and i didn't even need to bring any tools! or wire to extend the chain!
mircea_popescu: and in other random, isn't it funny that for all the millions of dorks going about finding "contradictions in the bible" there can't be had a single dork going about seeking "contradictions in wikipedia" ?
mircea_popescu: ah. tbh haven't quite decided yet.
ben_vulpes: i still don't buy this imperial unit drug trade thing, but never having seen either metric or us tonne of any kind of product, will have to defer to those claiming knowledge
mircea_popescu: anyway, that was the original "sting" re silk road, some narc pretended to be a seller there ("hacked account, ie social engineered) and tried to sell pound of coke, nobody was buying so dork in charge decided to buy it on his own accouint. to "save face", because apparently "drug marketplace" that can't place a pound somehow has some face to be saved
mircea_popescu: it's almost like that tyime when mp said silk market is a joke and then it turned out couldn't sell a pound of coke over xmas.
asciilifeform: that ain't a sinking
asciilifeform: in other idiocies, https://sale.urbit.org is selling address space, this time Officially, and for btc. ( what good scamola ain't sold for btc ) . ( link won't display unless you enter code. 8112.7bd0.7ae6.6f17.b65d.3cb5 should work . )
ben_vulpes: no i don't actually remember any of these marvels
mircea_popescu: o no, you don't understand, REDDIT NOTES!!!1
mircea_popescu: i wouldn't mind chasing some usians around a little from a truck before finally shooting to maim and leaving them for dead.
a111: Logged on 2017-05-16 18:40 shinohai: https://medium.com/@jonaldfyookball/an-open-letter-to-bitcoin-miners-c260467e1f0 <<< /me doesn't know why he lolz so much at smacktards that write this drivel.
mircea_popescu: because we didn't take seriously whatever random dork last made a social media post about things and matters and saving bitcoin.
asciilifeform: asciilifeform ain't in the mechanizing-away-your-brain business.
mircea_popescu: aka "we don't need ai, we got google data!!!"
mircea_popescu: the clear proof (for the expert) that purpose is meaningless is the simple fact that if you accept it, then it follows as universal, whereas if you don't accept it, it's universally absent. this is always and everywhere the fate of null notions.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> what can i tell you ben_vulpes , i'm a writer not an engineer. i don't know so much about engines, just seemed to me like the right number. why, is it wrong ? << This actually might be most right
mircea_popescu: what can i tell you ben_vulpes , i'm a writer not an engineer. i don't know so much about engines, just seemed to me like the right number. why, is it wrong ?
mircea_popescu: i'm sure they didn't even have proper large text.
a111: Logged on 2014-02-17 15:20 asciilifeform: try this one on for size then. 'once drakula proclaimed: let it be known throughout all of his lands, that all who are old, or invalid, or diseased, or poor, shall come to him. and so came to him an untold multitude of beggars and vagabonds, awaiting generous alms. he ordered them all brought to a house for this purpose built, and had food and wine brought to them. they feasted amidst great merriment. drakula t
mircea_popescu: don't like the guy's driving, shoot his kid. sure, "kid is innocent", "that was uncalled for" bla bla. point fucking remains -- now he has to make another one, which takes no driving. at driving -- he sucks, so he can't appreciate what that means. putatively at other thing he doesn't suck nearly as much, so he CAN appreciate.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the romans didn't think. the romans did.
mircea_popescu: it works for the same reason ratios don't work in prisons etc.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes, but the usual retellings don't include the EMH reference, there's no explanation as to why it worked.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i still can't fucking believe the ivan ivanov thing.
mircea_popescu: vory/suka, for the record, is this ancient dispute in ru penal system, whereby it is verboten for respectable criminal to help the government. this going about as far as the jews, dudes won't push a fucking button.
a111: Logged on 2017-05-17 14:05 phf: also doesn't leverage the competitive advantage of google. massive datasets, crowdsourced solutions (hire all the developers, hope something works!1)
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-17#1657329 << no you don't understand, they have really cool offices! google guy was one day walking down the mall to pick up an office, was really fascinated by mcdonalds kid section, said HELLO SIR I WANT HIRE OFFICE HERE PLEASE. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-05-17 14:03 phf: there's an earlier talk he made, maybe 10 years ago, where he basically said "we used to do all these analytical algorithms to AI, but turns out you don't need none of that, because we have massive datasets instead."
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-17#1657324 << funnily mirror of the "We used to go out and talk to women, which was interesting, but it turns out you don't need to do all that, as there's all these... um... uh... massive...errr... data..sets, yeah, that's right, massive datasets to explore!" ☝︎
mircea_popescu: it fucking didn't, which is the fucking point. ~IT~ didn't.
phf: also doesn't leverage the competitive advantage of google. massive datasets, crowdsourced solutions (hire all the developers, hope something works!1) ☟︎
phf: there's an earlier talk he made, maybe 10 years ago, where he basically said "we used to do all these analytical algorithms to AI, but turns out you don't need none of that, because we have massive datasets instead." ☟︎
diana_coman: well, 45 minutes to watch the video seem more like 45 minutes wasted; tbh the title reference doesn't bode well either