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mircea_popescu: ryepdx not sure that risk can be avoided. for instance, yo ucould buy
a delivered future like the x.eur
fluffypony: ryepdx: except someone is holding the USD in
a bank account, right, and THEIR bank account can be closed
ryepdx: Right. But without the risk of someone deciding you shouldn't have
a bank account anymore.
bitcoinpete: ryepdx: so just like
a regular bank account then
ryepdx: Outside of Bitfinex, is there any way to short Bitcoin in USD? I'm interested in exploring the possibility of creating
a Bitcoin wallet that maintains
a constant USD balance no matter what the exchange rate does.
gribble: Error: "marielynn" is not
a valid command.
mircea_popescu: apparently saliva has some digestive properties, and if you keep your cock in mouths for too many hours
a day... well...
mircea_popescu: btw, did you know you can actually get
a cock skin problem that's essentially... tegument digestion syndrome ?
fluffypony: I don't think he's done anything except make circuitous, confusing arguments and accuse everyone of being part of
a cult
mircea_popescu: did he start
a bitcoin investment growth first ever fund yet or anything ?
BingoBoingo: Unique names are
a non-trival problem in large networks.
BingoBoingo: cgcardona: You have to realize
a lot of non-Bitcoin freenode is tech support for
a lot of projects, and... If they locked out every name forever, it would be
a pain coming up with unique names every time you don't care to remember
a password.
BingoBoingo: fluffypony: Good ones do. My disorderly conduct case has now exceeded
a year in length.
moiety: there was
a right mess with those tox devs
fluffypony: every time
a coin dev disappears then someone picks up the reigns and "relaunches" it
kakobrekla: >>I do not know NXT, but I am interested in finding (and even potentially investing in) efforts to create
a peer-to-peer capital market. In fact, if
a good solution emerges, you might even see Overstock be the first issuer of
a stock or bond in such
a market, just to help things get going! (Incidentally, we were the first to do
a Dutch auction IPO, for precisely that reason.)
fluffypony: "Bitcoin is
a mad, technoutopian fever dream that will end in tears, if it hasn't already."
benkay: it's
a pretty high touch approach, which is why i'd expect to be able to carve out
a niche in the space
benkay: go somewhere with
a serious expat community in the habit of sending money home, make friends in that group, figure out what it's costing to get money where they need it moved, and then move it with btc.
benkay: gotta be quick 'cause i'm on my way to
a walk
fluffypony: benkay: TagPesa seem to have that in the bag...just
a pity about their involvement with Seedcoin II: The Wrath of Seedz
benkay:
a BTC operation doing remittances would slay.
benkay: fluffypony: the real issue is that microloans have
a pretty bad return, what with having to chase anonymous poverty-ensnared people all over their shithole country/favela
fluffypony: dignork: yep, I think I'm talking purely about using BTC as
a way of getting around the cross-border issues
fluffypony: bitcoinpete: ok but let's focus on the lending space - at the moment there is already
a thriving p2p micro-lending market in some countries, mostly unregulated. The problem is that the cost of transacting makes it impossible for people outside of that country to get involved.
bitcoinpete: fluffypony: i'd argue that it's too big of
a pain to use for
a long position to not be
a pre-req
benkay: "i'm just providing
a vehicle for people to go short btc!"
benkay: fluffypony: you're starting to sound
a lot like the20year
fluffypony: not everyone is long on Bitcoin, it's not
a prerequisite for its use
Apocalyptic: btcjam is more like
a p2p scamming last I heard
Apocalyptic: can someone recommend
a relevant venue for following financial news ?
bitcoinpete: my buddy thinks that this is "so out of touch because if I am reading this, with no savings, I wonder what the entire point is. it should at least add
a context."
bitcoinpete: which i think is fair given inflation and
a few decades of travel, etc
bitcoinpete: So the financial post, out of toronto, has
a weekly feature on an older couple and their preparedness for retirement
bitcoinpete: "Contract outcomes are determined in
a trustless and decentralized way, through
a weighted vote based on present and past consensus with
a unique Nash Equilibrium where all voters report accurately on the state of markets."
bitcoinpete: "The end result is the first of its kind:
a market for actual prediction-commodities, which have
a value based on their accuracy and not based on the behaviour of any administrator, rival trader, or counterparty."
bitcoinpete: "Truthcoin is my ambitious project to create
a trustless P2P prediction-marketplace. This is possible because, unlike most marketplaces, the end product of
a prediction market (PM) is information."
cgcardona: well the old one had such
a good message w/ the monopoly money
dexX7: ah
a refresh did it
dexX7: bitcoinpete: Error establishing
a database connection
bitcoinpete: cgcardona: decent enough idea, if taint were
a problem
cgcardona: i've been watching
a bunch of cody wilson interviews over the last couple of days and it's an interesting idea
danielpbarron: if Bitcoin gets to the point where I can't spend it unless I have
a mark on my hand or forehead, that's when I divest from Bitcoin and start street preaching
thestringpuller: I would expect SuperUsers to have
a mobile brothel for "socializing"
moiety: hell why not get
a secret handshake in there too
moiety: so you want people to pay
a lot for travel for
a short assed meet up?
moiety: but thing is, if people go to the effort of getting plane tickets etc, they tend to have passports and stuff? you don't really squat
a plane ticket/meet up
cgcardona: well I'm assuming the SuperUser underground lair is
a safe haven for all
moiety: o i see what you mean now. that's
a bit tricky when everyone is scattered
cgcardona: so I've been thinking about
a group of SuperUsers called 'The church of Sudo', 'The Cult of the SuperUser', and/or 'Order of Root'. Also known as 'The Web' -- I thought that the WoT/+v could be an interesting real world model as well. So
a person shows up at the SuperUser underground lair and has to sign
a message w/ their key and then retina scan/fingerprint to get access.
gribble: (eauth <nick>) -- Initiate authentication for user <nick>. You must have registered
a GPG key with the bot for this to work. You will be given
a link to
a page which contains
a one time password encrypted with your key. Decrypt, and use the 'everify' command with it. Your passphrase will expire in 10 minutes.
Micon: brb later guys / DPB if you send me how to verify myself with my key I'll do it in
a bit
Micon: just have the key and
a signed msg in many places like that
Micon: that's
a good idea
BigBitz: It was
a nice event, though.
moiety: i tweetered at them but didnt get
a response
Micon: i just gave you
a random pastebin with
a GPG key
moiety: re BigFuckingLiar Josh @ London, he apologised to
a lot of people who ate it up and were interested in the next bunch of lies he was wanting to send out [at
a delayed timeframe]
cgcardona: does he wear
a mask? noone noticed?
moiety: <Micon> but I could tweet that I'm me right now << but you could also have
a fake corresponding tweeter for this purpose
Micon: also non-0 chance I'll need to raise
a quick $2M worth of btc for big SwC share :)
ThickAsThieves: what Google is missing is the ability to verify you in
a live situation, and the ability to have
a "ledger" on your trust transactions with people
ThickAsThieves: Micon, it's not gameable in the sense that it is
a tool that references who trusts whom
BigBitz: I need to watch out then. I have
a considerable total rating, danielpbarron.
BigBitz: Micon that is
a possibility with any WoT.
benkay: * danielpbarron isn't interested in acts of violence << i love
a good bit of the old ultra-violence
moiety: cgcardona; danielpbarron: getting the client to autosign-in is obv too difficult for some people. does bug me though if nickserv has
a freak out and you re-identify, it unauths you from the wot
danielpbarron: and then I can give you
a rating, and then you can voice yourself
gribble: (eauth <nick>) -- Initiate authentication for user <nick>. You must have registered
a GPG key with the bot for this to work. You will be given
a link to
a page which contains
a one time password encrypted with your key. Decrypt, and use the 'everify' command with it. Your passphrase will expire in 10 minutes.
BigBitz: but he can hold
a conversation.
BigBitz: I had
a very good chat with him.
BigBitz: quite clearly
a lying, cheating, cunt, but... affable.
danielpbarron: Micon: sorry I haven't called in to your show in
a while, i've been so busy lately I space out on the time
cgcardona: yea it wasn't too painful but it could suck if you had
a huge WoT score.
danielpbarron: there are
a lot of high profile Bitcoin users in other channels who don't auth with gribble; it's just not important to them
danielpbarron: and they are dumb, and they would get confused if nickserv forced them to type
a password every time
cgcardona: what could be the reasoning behind such
a default setting?
danielpbarron: well these bot nets can control like half
a table, so when you get AK: they might know that 2 aces and 1 king got folded already, and their QJ is
a strong hand
danielpbarron: BigBitz: right, unless it's hosted by
a IRL casino
danielpbarron: but
a bot-net can crunch all those numbers pretty fast
danielpbarron: not with bots that is; i have in the past been on skype with
a friend, but it always bothered me
danielpbarron: and also, it's
a WoT thing, I only invite friends and family
danielpbarron: I host
a house game of poker every saturday night; that's where poker works: where I can see all the players and catch them colluding
kakobrekla: moiety i did actually. got up
a bit later then, at 4pm.
danielpbarron: BigBitz: I think there is
a financial incentive to create colluding bot nets