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mircea_popescu: last
thing you fucking need is for every dns root server
to have
to
talk
to EVERY ONE for (total domain data) ^ 1/2's worth
mircea_popescu: now imagine if instead of splitting it up via delegation, you simply made
the problem exponentially worse by introducing a gossip layer in
there.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform
think for a second :
the reason delegation exists is because a) people are idiots and b)
the lists get long. in
that order.
mircea_popescu: but
there isn't ; and what's worse,
there necessarily can not be.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform just because police sometimes beats people up with vacuum hose does not mean vacuums hoses should be banned. we're not french fucking bulldogs, what sort of dogreasoning is
this.
mircea_popescu: you decided
to stay on
the old branch, which is fine, but also unrelated.
mircea_popescu: fine. when
the ukrainians decided
to be a nation, your dictionary also remote-updated.
mircea_popescu: when you bought
the next installment of whatever comic you read as a boy,
mircea_popescu: anyway, re-reading
this dns
thing, i'm not even sure what
the objections are. i'm getting a morass of "why shouldn't all
the
things be made out of lead since lead works well for pencils" + vague extremisms
trying
to confuse a clear boundry (x didn't exist ; x exists) with random other
things.
mircea_popescu: you are currently asking deedbot "where
to send
this repuiblican
tax again ?"
mircea_popescu: trilema fucking exists as my act of will, wherever i say it is
that's where it is. of course
they go
together.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform your objection would be
that if i one day decide
to move
trilema from ip x
to ip y i
thereby am confusing your
thought process unduly ?
mircea_popescu: this is a debatable point.
they are however fixed in context ; much like symbol
tables for a running program say.
mircea_popescu: yes, except dictionaries aren't
the structure of
the empire.
they're
the structure of
thought.
mircea_popescu: what you'd like doesn't enter into
this. you'll use
the dictionary whether you like
to or not.
mircea_popescu: "People
think
that Web browsers are elegant computation platforms, and Web pages are light, fluffy
things
that you can edit in Notepad as you
trade ironic comments with your friends in
the coffee shop. Nothing could be further from
the
truth." << actually...
that's exactly how it goes for me. and i mean
that literally - i write straight html while hurr durring with
teh girlz.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform
this is a matter of fact, not a matter of opinion. it's of
the nature of ask deedbot, not of
the nature of "what does
the lordship
think"
mircea_popescu: (ftr, re "does z sign",
there's a beautiful
tie-in for deedbot in here, because
there's no reason i couldn't register straight from !!, and especially so if i have
to pay something)
mircea_popescu: you send "register name x
type y key z"
to server. if it doesn't have x, it registers it. if it has x, it registers y provided z is
the key registered for x.
mircea_popescu: currently, you can not register a gns item. at some point X, you will become able
to.
thenceforth, you will be able
to.
that's
the whole
timeline.
a111: Logged on 2016-11-16 00:35 Framedragger: first round, okay, but other rounds supposedly follow later, and
the conflict case can be replicated, i would
think, and hence
the system supports conflicts, structurally, which need
to be addressed one way or another.. dunno.
a111: Logged on 2016-11-16 00:34 Framedragger: because it would be great if WoT-gns worked like other WoT
things, i.e., via
the enforcement of WoT itself.
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-16#1568033 << i really don't see
that past
the "sunrise" so
to call it
there's any need
to give a shit. i would not negrate anyone for registering "someone else's" domain after
the system comes online and anyone can register whatever. i do
think it's pretty idiotic
to bring it online empty ; i won't support a system
that
tries
that ; and i
think
the comparison with mining/premining is entirely w
☝︎☟︎ mircea_popescu: the measure of
their fitness
to survive is very strictly how well
things
that work for me work for
them.
mircea_popescu: i want something
that works for me. if it works for others - good for
them. if it doesn't, woe on
them.
a111: Logged on 2016-11-15 20:43 asciilifeform: it's a fundamentally zimbabwetronic
thing.
a111: Logged on 2016-11-15 19:30 Framedragger: unless
the latter kind of situation is
to be covered by your clarification,
to quote, "I imagine like any serious country, we first handle
the claims of
the elite privately. "
shinohai: pfffft ... I'm willing
to bet
there are plenty of people still running 12.04 ... could be slipped into a dirty emulator rom or somesuch
mircea_popescu: i like how it's always "but nobody would do
this because we already did and reasons"
mircea_popescu: the warning's out, whoever doesn't get in
the wot is playing with fire.
BingoBoingo: Well if you really care about a name you prolly ought
to claim it in
the first round
shinohai likes
the cardinal virtue of unfairness ....
Framedragger: first round, okay, but other rounds supposedly follow later, and
the conflict case can be replicated, i would
think, and hence
the system supports conflicts, structurally, which need
to be addressed one way or another.. dunno.
☟︎ BingoBoingo: The guiding principle of Inequality demands
that
the first round of registrations in a domain system must necessarily be limited
to
the privileged.
Framedragger: because it would be great if WoT-gns worked like other WoT
things, i.e., via
the enforcement of WoT itself.
☟︎ Framedragger: and mp said "da fuck, I'm not going
to support a dns system where some dork registered
trilema", which confused me, so yeah, clarification needed, i
think.
a111: Logged on 2016-11-15 23:29
trinque: who needs blanket policy when he's free
to choose and I'm free
to negrate him?
Framedragger:
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-15#1568014 <<
that's what i
thought as well - i queried along
the same lines: "say someone with a valid GPG key rushes
to register
trilema.com in
the Republican DNS before yourself. I suppose
that is all well and good, and you negrating
the key would only be appropriate in
the instance of
that person
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2016-10-21 00:28 ben_vulpes:
the infinite
to bitcoin's finite, if you will.
ben_vulpes: i for one
think
that names should be mined.
trinque: and if he's unfair
to elliot, grand.
trinque: he issues
trilema
to mp because mp will
thump him otherwise
trinque: who needs blanket policy when he's free
to choose and I'm free
to negrate him?
☟︎ trinque: ben_vulpes:
there's one important distinction here.
the gns has a WoT identity running it.