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Framedragger: (and
the common man will just have found more
tools
to assfuck himself with.)
Framedragger: and if
that happens, we will have but our laziness
to blame.
Framedragger: a working computer *may* just not be available in
the future, i do believe
that fully. not
to go all cliche dystopian, but neural implants based on Secure Microsoft Quantum Encryption(R) and
the likes may be what people use
to "compute" in
the future
mircea_popescu: $1k was nothing in 2012 like it is
today ; and would have done nothing more for me
then
than now. what i bought for it was pretty stupid, according
to
the experts of
the
time, and doomed
to failure. a working computer is pretty stupid, according
to
the experts of 2016, and obviously doomed
to "it can't work".
mircea_popescu: but
the battle is on, and it's
the battle for souls. once
the door closes
there's no redemption.
mircea_popescu: and NOW we shall come back
to your
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-19#1570510 : it's easy
to misperceive
that whatever,
the republic,
take it or leave it, in 2016. it's easy
to
think
that hey, maybne i;ll make myself a computer
that works, or maybe i won't, who cares. in 2016.
☝︎ mircea_popescu: similarly "it's
the way of
the future" isn't going
to make shiny happy people out of
the populist party
that used nothing but
this all
through 1800.
mircea_popescu: as
this realisation grips
the masses, watch for
the populist politicians display a
turn of heart about
the
term "future".
mircea_popescu: is nary a spec in
this history and soon forgotten like bell bottoms and whatever other fashionable nonsense. 80s hair and 1790s sociopolitics.
mircea_popescu: by and large,
the notion
that
the common man may have a say in his usage / fate is coming
to a close. it's some weird shit some dudes pulled out of
their ass and
then argued persuasively a few centuries ago, it was
tried in a massive social experiment, and showed
to not work in any conceivable implementation.
to call
this a
trend reversal is
to entirely miss
that
the alternative dominates millenia by
the hundreds ; "humanism"
mircea_popescu: just because i'm influential doesn't mean i'm universal. a grass eating quadripede in south america is just as much a herbivore as
the common horse, even if
they never met.
mircea_popescu: yes, and
they are part of
the republic. per definition.
Framedragger: i don't knot about
the "*only*" viable alternative. you yourself mentioned some
time ago
that it's perfectly normal for other intelligent peeps
to have
their own WoT networks (which are not connected
to
tmsr WoT).
Framedragger: (also, if
there was one
tv series you may want
to watch, it'd be "black mirror". i watched
their "christmas special" ("white christmas") yesterday, and somehow on an emotional level it made me feel easier about not having much hope in
the "populace".
the smarter
the
technological
tools
that
the populace gets
to play with,
the more
they fuck
themselves and others up.)
mircea_popescu: for
the derps, it is mandatory because
they are powerless ; and for
the elite it is
the only viable alternative (and
thus also mandatory).
mircea_popescu: right. because
this isn't another lollapalooza or w/e.
Framedragger: strangely i can't object
to
this. ("spent
too much
time here"). yeah, ok.
mircea_popescu: it does not work for all, of course. but if it didn't work it means
there was nothing
there.
mircea_popescu: there is -
the common man is lazy.
the only
thing
that can support his
transition
to actual human is
the experience of furious impotence.
Framedragger: (i wonder if
there is a retribution/psychological component
to
this. but maybe not.)
mircea_popescu: that is
the proper place of
the common man : angry powerlessness.
mircea_popescu: no, i want him
to be as upset as he can muster about it ; and
then still not actually manage
to do anything about it.
mircea_popescu: so no, i don't want joe q mschmucky
to "understand" why if he fucks up his payment we keep
the
txn. or
to accept it, or
to
think it's a good idea.
mircea_popescu: because
the common man consists principally of shit, and as something becomes "popular" it becomes shitty.
a111: Logged on 2016-11-18 21:57 mircea_popescu: anyway.
the republic isn't poor. but it is very fucking difficult
to get proper leverage applied.
mircea_popescu: attempts
to get
the common man involved is how
the various socialisms, be
they hitler's or stalin's fail.
mircea_popescu: the battle is for
the elites and for
the elites strictly.
the common man is unwelcome in any capacity outside his physicality.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: hmm. okay, i guess i get
that
this implies a wholly different approach.
mircea_popescu: we absolutely do not want for
the common man
to "see", in his own, common man
terms,
the "benefits" of
the republic, and
then "become part of it" and in
the process start selling
tmsr keychains at hot
topic.
mircea_popescu: the idea is for
the republic
to be imposed, preferably at
the point of a sword, and painfully, VERY painfully, depersonalizingly painfully,
to
the common man.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger see, but
there's a larger point here. i dunno if you followed
the recent discussion re nirvana, but in any case : it is specificlaly NOT
the intent of
the republic
to become popular.
jhvh1: Framedragger:
The operation succeeded.
Framedragger: !~later
tell gabriel_laddel fd at mkj dot lt , gpg fingerprint E2DF 986D 58A0 D387 6BA1 65FA CC05 10AA FD8A F4B7
a111: Logged on 2016-11-18 22:58 mircea_popescu: Framedragger hey, i paid a grand via paypal for like 60 btc back in 2012. back
then bitcoin was still enjoying
the benefit of not having been popularized.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform>
there are always organs
to sell. << For solution
to
this see BingoBoingo strategy. Use substances just enough
to erase market value from organs, unless grinding for sausage.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> in all deadpan honesty,
this. << haha.
BingoBoingo: Strength of
the gabriel strategy, what will Feds
take? All of one's nothing?
mircea_popescu: and
the obvious response "we have no fucking idea" isn't on
the
table because coinbase ISNT a bitcoin company.
mircea_popescu: "no, i found it in a plastic bag in
the alley behind
the hotel where i used
to work."
☟︎☟︎ mircea_popescu: and in
today's installment of
the gueto files : hanbot says
to woman "nice vest, did you make it yourself ?" and
the woman answers...
a111: Logged on 2016-11-18 22:34 mircea_popescu: you have any idea what happened
to vragnaroda ?
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> hence
the whole "i want
time magazine
to
tell me how
the shutdown relates
to me" ie, "i don't want any data (ie, anything about objective reality, outside) i just want commentary, entirely baseless if possible." << haha
lobbes: heh,
that was
the second
thing I did after learning how
to view a directory in non-winblowz (this is even in logs!). Not hard, but laziness most likely is
the problem of Gaboose. For all we know, he is a literal dog with a smartpohne, never
to be aware of
this conversation
mod6: i'll be putting in a bunch of
testing myself
this weekend.
mod6: cool!
thanks for
taking
the
time
to work on
that. :]
shinohai: wb mod6 .... all
tests from previous discussion
today went swimmingly.
ben_vulpes: !!up Gaboose yo get a connection
that stays up, would you?
the join/part spam is entirely unnecessary.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Child operated blind
trust.
BingoBoingo can't await
the coming of vintage "protest candles"
phf: BingoBoingo: i'm sure some people sourced it
that way, but bulk of k came from india, straight out of factories, because at some point it was unregulated
there and class whatever here
phf: at least
that's where
the bulk of ketamine came from during
the, now looks like mostly over, ketamine years
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Prolly Chinese make like rest of fancy
trendy drugs because market.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Of course. Okcupid used
to be a waste of
time
then, OMG run mp scripts and
then datez.
a111: Logged on 2016-11-18 22:03 gabriel_laddel:
trinque: I even created a program
to meet girls.. no dice
thus yet.
phf: well,
the result of staple
tmsr exercise of "let me grind
these lens myself, oh, wait,
turns out
the `sand`
they use is actually cow shit"
phf: rms famously uses cli emacs on getty, and starts x "from
time
to
time when he needs
to look at some pdfs",
that he mostly prints, owing
to infinite MIT staff printers
phf: i
think i might have
two of
those, but both, if i recall, kept dying for mysterious reasons..
a111: Logged on 2016-11-18 21:12 mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski
they seriously made
that domain ? i
thought was just bingo being memetic.
mircea_popescu: apparently "independence" of
this kind is an improvement over being naked in my dungeon. somehow.
mircea_popescu: "the college debt is worse
than you
tihnk", aka girls being 2/3 overweight, living
together, no degree after decade of "work" and obviously, all
this paid for by promises
that can't be kept.
phf: asciilifeform: what was
the
thinkpad you were saying good "except
the monitor", 80 something?
mircea_popescu: needless
to say,
the most usg will ever collect on
that is as many bullets as its agents can carry.
mircea_popescu: basically
they're
trying
to get a "social emergency" declared, and have free money
thrown at people "because
they need it" somesuch.
mircea_popescu: anyway,
they're all excited because something or
the other with paperwork, various union heads finally deflated
their heads enough
to fit in same room or such.
mircea_popescu: gimmicky as per usual. cgt affair. really more in
the vein of 7-800 ppls but w/e.
ben_vulpes: ahaha "a demonstrator disguised as santa clause gestures next
to a christmas
tree with signs demanding aid plans and reform bills"
ben_vulpes: protests now outside congress and not casa rosada so
that mircea_popescu cannot debunk by stretching and walking outside