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scriba: Failed to archive. HTTP code: N/A. Exception raised: True
scriba: Failed to archive. HTTP code: N/A. Exception raised: True
pete_dushenski: http://archive.is/SG5uV << in other overlords, bannon compares himself to cromwell.
pete_dushenski: tis possible. tis also possible that the world won't be worse off if they car-crash themselves off the face of it, be it by their own hand or that of their robot overlords.
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: I don't think you understand the proportion represented by "most" in that usuage. We are talking about a mass economically crippled by their various "employable if X" bullshits.
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: 'most' isn't really an argument now is it. nor was it my point. talking solely about folks buying $100k cars, they're better off sifting through resumes to find a non-retarded driver than shipping their cash to musk et al., what with the rapidly sinking obamanchor tied around their weedy necks.
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: 'the groand tour' isn't available outside us, uk, and i think oz for another month so... nope. looking forward to it though. you ?
BingoBoingo: Not to mention most muricans are broken in their temperment, unsuitable for service work where they interact with customer or customer/employer and require herding employer.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: the difference between eyes and electronic sensors on cars, ofc, is that you know when eyes stop working before it's too late. either way, if trumpenreich is to restore full employment to amerika, abolishing the minimum wage will make a full-time chauffeur affordable to anyone who can also spend $100k on a tesla or equiv. ☟︎
pete_dushenski: didn't realise that jhvh1 also adopted the calculator until saw it in-chan yesterday. that sneaky shinohai ! bots directory updated accordingly.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> ... and it did... zero. << Or you were wired for addiction to that weirdo substance before trying? Lacked the apperception to realize was tripping balls.
shinohai: I had the trinque experience of being completely out-of-head for like 10 minutes
trinque: gotta torch at high temperature.
asciilifeform: ( did have strange dream that night, but i often do anyway )
asciilifeform: fwiw i once ate some of its liquid extract (it was at one point freely available in usa, was literally the only type of dope i could physically get !) and it did... zero.
trinque: I might be a sick person, but I thought that stuff was great fun.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> i actually planted a bunch in romania, for the flowers. << Different salvia. Tripping balls salvia has sparse shitty flowers if it flowers. ☟︎
asciilifeform: there are books even on flying mig. but there are afaik none on flying mig under a non-liftable sea bridge (there is photo of this!). 'cons-free lisp' resembles the latter more than 'sop' operation.
asciilifeform: one of the difficulties of the student is that most 'adult' lisp work took place in the era before 'must publish everything', 'open sores', etc.
asciilifeform: trinque: afaik only the leaked smbx lm sources.
trinque: asciilifeform: any reading material on the "cons-free" subj?
asciilifeform: trinque: also this'll be good practice for writing 'cons-free' manually-driven lisp, for when we do os bootloader, kernel, similar.
trinque: most of the time gc works fine; I am certainly still a student of the language.
asciilifeform: trinque: peruse the docs for your particular lisp, most of'em provide knobs for 'dangerous' manual manipulation of the 'auto gearbox', if you will
trinque: it makes me less anti-lisp and more in favor of using some kind of namespaced wad of memory which I can trash all together explicitly.
trinque: and dupes are most likely to come from recent messages (say a queue server died before noting that the message was sent)
trinque: my list contained identifiers for things coming at me from a queue, where the queue may shit itself and send dupes, but with a maximum possible age of message that is duped
asciilifeform: and it's for 'list processing' in same way as fortran-90 is for 'formulae translation'...
asciilifeform: has heuristics for when to fire. if you don't like'em, gotta (gc)
trinque: please explain to me how a list operation as simple as that in "list processing" language is not right in the middle of the groove of the language
asciilifeform: trinque: yer doing destructive ops and then wondering where gc was?!
trinque: and at great volume; this caused sbcl to not want to gc the shit falling off the tail
trinque: simplest example I can come up with is that I was consing thing to the front of a list, nil-ing things off the back
trinque: I'm sold on the structure of the language, but I have had times where I wonder why the fuck the gc hasn't kicked on yet, find folks saying "oh you tricked the gc" researching the problem
trinque: I will say that I am not fully sold on automatic memory management yet.
trinque bash scripts everything significant he does, runs that thing next time.
mircea_popescu: kinda the point.
asciilifeform: it helps that we're 'neighbours'.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform done ty. 100 10.5G 100 10.5G 0 0 97.3M 0 0:01:51 0:01:51 --:--:-- 101M << gotta love real tubes.
mircea_popescu: and the cycle penalty is not significant huh.
trinque: if it's a development instance of something, I send along "swank" which lets me summon a repl out of the thing and fiddle internals.
trinque: so you make one of those, it tacks the lisp executable to the front of the thing, huck the whole wad at server and restart service
trinque: mircea_popescu: yep, that's rather nice. save-lisp-and-die saves the memory state of your environment, then runs a specified function when it's awoken.
mircea_popescu: i'll take one anyway.
mircea_popescu: so normally you just compile into bytecode via sblc on your box and send the binary to prod box ?
trinque: I tend to use sbcl as compiler, then clim is the UI doodad when one's needed
trinque: yep, feeds is a separate service that adds entries to a queue
a111: Logged on 2016-11-19 20:31 Framedragger: or one could even dare to develop something collaboratively, but the republic would surely segfault then.
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-19#1571137 << not allergic to collab at all; in a couple of days, a V genesis shall be forthcoming on a tidy wad of html generating lisp for the WoT pages. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-11-17 15:06 mircea_popescu: trinque can deedbot rss parsing be unprincipledly altered so that any succession of alphanum characters in excess of 16 spaces is replaced with first4[...]last4 ?
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-17#1568940 << next one that pops should obey that rule. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: i suppose these will pop up periodically until the end of time.
scriba: Restarting for daddy (update help to list owner and to include new command)
shinohai: When your shitcoin needs a hardfork to fix a hardfork: https://github.com/ethereum/go-ethereum/releases/tag/v1.5.2
asciilifeform: speaking of american teenagers, vintage lel : https://archive.is/ICxt
mircea_popescu: but really, psychic surgery over the tubes ?
mircea_popescu: that they give each other advice on "how to talk to girls" on the basis of you know, one of them actually once did it / someone once overheard someone doing it is one thing.
mircea_popescu: who the everloving fuck can live in this world where the yearlings think themselves experts in things jesus f christ!
mircea_popescu: https://www.youtube.com/user/HarrisHarrington << this just takes the cake of poptardation. so here's a guy too young to have an undergraduate degree doing self-help posturing over youtube.
Framedragger: wanted to check by going to actual archive.is and seeing if the new url got archived, and when. (all good).
Framedragger: true. just wanted to have it be real "proper"
mircea_popescu: i dun see the problem either way.
Framedragger: (should be possible to find the signal from html returned.)
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: um. while it will not increase "number of URLs newly archived" if URL is actually not valid as reported by archive.is, but it *will* get increased for the same URL, even if archive.is had already archived it.
mircea_popescu: seems to be fine.
mircea_popescu: i actually planted a bunch in romania, for the flowers.
shinohai: Used to could buy salvia in pouches at local gas station.
Framedragger: but then, people take that salvia thing, whatever it's called, and apparently better part of all experiences end up with dissociative-of-not-the-nice-sorts delirium state..
Framedragger: huh apparently may still be used in some neopagan 'rituals'. citation needed tho
mircea_popescu: tropane alkaloids aren't usually abused recreationally, because well... not what people usually think is fun.
Framedragger: i think some folks in .lt used to (attempt to) get high on it, to obtain some or other state of delirium
mircea_popescu: d. inoxia i think it was.
shinohai: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datura_stramonium <<< this?
mircea_popescu: also i dunno anyone'd wanna try get high on this, iirc mostly scopolamine.
mircea_popescu: really ? i didn't think it grew where it frosts.
shinohai: Virginia, I think I remember the colonists got all high on it.
shinohai: iirc wasn't that abused in Roanoke ?
shinohai: Ah Devil's trumpet
mircea_popescu: speaking of which, /me walking noticed an interesting flower, long, trumpet like. plucked it, smelled it, very nice smell. checked it out on the internets - it's datura. grows wild here.
mircea_popescu: "will this fix my problem ?" "no, but it will give it color."
shinohai: Dear Sreekumar, try LSD. Sincerely, shinohai
mircea_popescu: as it's exactly the sort of you know, "advertising enigmae" you were talking about yest.
Framedragger: okay. i'll first do archive.is as i think i just need to change user-agent, and then some time next week can set up curl + bundling thing.
mircea_popescu: i'm still giving phf his space to figure out his feelings re lisp archive.is
Framedragger: (not that you'll call the latter "sites", i'm sure:)
Framedragger: i suppose so. do note that archive.is attempts to retrieve additional resources, including js needed for rendering some sites, etc etc.
mircea_popescu: then it could bundle all of these together in a base64'd blob each week and deedbot them.
mircea_popescu: anyway, having scriba simply curl http://qntra.net/2016/11/st-louis-homeless-overdose-on-fake-weed-as-the-great-again-looms/ > 20161119.18 in response to http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20161119/#18 is both useful and roughly sufficient.
Framedragger: so i'll pretend to be someone else, but clearly this is not tenable long-term.
Framedragger: owait, curl still works. apparently "<h2 data-translate="what_happened">What happened?</h2>\n <p>The owner of this website (archive.is) has banned your access based on your browser\'s signature"
Framedragger: (this explains why PeterL's or whoever's thing used to work, but stopped. i think this is recent.)
mircea_popescu: clearly that archive.is thing needs replacement.
Framedragger: "Access denied | archive.is used CloudFlare to restrict access"
Framedragger: you know what archive.is tells me nao if i urlopen it from python?
Framedragger: i think archive.is archivers used to work
mod6: ive been enjoying this red cups series
a111: Logged on 2016-11-19 19:31 Framedragger: but yeah, i've noticed that sshd works just fine (incl accepting new connections) even if cpu at ~100% and/or no free disk space. there's that.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-19#1571048 << it's not a matter of "cpu at 100%" nor is it a matter of free disk space. if on that os ssh hangs off eg dbus, and if dbus gets locked out by kernel because "dirty page" or "waiting on journal update" or whatever similar idiocy, your process is stalled. and these are just random examples, so much can go wrong in a modern box it's not even worth my time drawing the broad strokes. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: whoopdedoo, you push it until it dies by design then you wonder it dies now and again.
mircea_popescu: the entire stack is built pretty much to create this - first, we have a phuctor, and 2mn keys looks like the whole world, and any finds look improbable as shit. then some finds are found, and more keys are fed, so now 50mn looks like the whole world and a few finds a day are expected. BUT THEN a way is found to crack thousands of keys in a week, and well, the echafaudage which held up the original is struggling.