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mod6: it won't do that, because, spam.
Framedragger: mod6: tbh am just fiddling around. i wanted a list of all tickets, and to be able to view every ticket separately, if that's even applicable
mod6: Framedragger: are you trying to view a ticket for trb?
asciilifeform: Framedragger: it had working title 'P'. think 'rpn calculator' and you -- mostly -- have it.
Framedragger: (there's probably been some further design work? and then asciilifeform probably has something written down, i imagine)
a111: Logged on 2015-10-14 20:13 asciilifeform: the - presently nameless - pgptron - is simply an emulator for a very simple but imaginary computer which performs arbitrary arithmetic on bignums.
Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2015-10-14#1298920 << just curious if anyone has been looking into this? trying to wrap my head around stuff-that-is-being-worked on :) ☝︎
a111: 2 results for "view tickets", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=view%20tickets
Framedragger: !#s view tickets
Framedragger: phf: http://btcbase.org/patches/ says 301 -> http://btcbase.org/patches/NIL , the latter as appropriate to nil i guess 404's
tb0t: Ticket Type Codes: C => CHANGE | D => DEFECT | F => FEATURE | I => INVESTIGATE | R => REFERENCE | S => SAGA | T => TASK | X => DOCUMENT
Framedragger: !%print t
asciilifeform: (if it isn't obvious, the thing exists INSIDE some other mod)
Framedragger: !%p t
asciilifeform: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/2376DC4A598D0B7FBCC1A66D71E36ADB37969120DC2D5B7C24BAEC8DD9FF5FD9 << i'ma have to make the factors clickable eventually. because this is mega-uninformative.
tb0t: Projects: UCI | t | trb | v
trinque: even if we were doing deedbot: !!up guy people would moan about how they don't remember which bot does what
shinohai: The bickening III
asciilifeform: jurov: the knobs are at http://bots.contravex.com (to which asciilifeform will admit he must refer to regularly, the two-char syntaxes are terrible imho )
jurov: too many hoops jumping in thinking there to cite anything
jurov: http://fedscoop.com/hurd-crypto-debate-should-end << not the gnu hurd but some member
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/2376DC4A598D0B7FBCC1A66D71E36ADB37969120DC2D5B7C24BAEC8DD9FF5FD9 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 2944...7291 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '109.226.172.170 (ssh-rsa key from 109.226.172.170 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; '
mircea_popescu: if only that shit worked, what a wonderful world would it be.
asciilifeform: the 'fake newz', 'this site MAY HARM YOUR COMPUTER!1111', etc. are simply part of the inexorable march to http://www.loper-os.org/?p=208 .
mircea_popescu: well nobody forces you to use ssl.
asciilifeform: there is already a tall pile of otherwise unremarkable sites that won't display in latest Official version of any ssltronic browser on account of 'obsolete protocol' or wtf.
mircea_popescu: they'd of course discover nobody cares about wikipedia, but still - who thinks otherwise, there's your angle.
mircea_popescu: anyway, seeing how nowadays wikipedia refuses to serve over http (for no fucking reason whatsoever, who the shit cares already!), an entreprising fellow may simply bridge their content over to http
mircea_popescu: "this news site may be faek" hurts google a lot more than it hurts qntra.
mircea_popescu: and like the rest of their measures to date, this latest attempt to lift the rock with the rotten reed will result in more damage to the rotten reed.
asciilifeform: i will be surprised if before the end of '17 'google chrome' and similar do not yet warn 'THIS NEWS SITE MAY BE FAEK', sorta how it now is beginning to do for ssl abstainers
asciilifeform: trinque: nyt et all are transitioning to a very explicit 'pravda' model.
asciilifeform: trinque: the 'fake newz' crapolade is being quite purposefully and deliberately drummed up, 'anything without the magic blue authenticity logo is FAEK' or the like.
jhvh1: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: !~later tell davout is your www down ? ☟︎
mircea_popescu: hey, the one thing fly empire doesn't lack is flies.
asciilifeform: the photos of 'victim kidz' added to the mix is same gambit as when the 'martians did it' folx were turned loose upon '9/11 truth'.
trinque: I guess the gay nazis will have plenty of conference fodder
trinque: that's it, 2016 tied up with a bow, nice and clean.
trinque: http://archive.is/q6qkI << meanwhile pedo-pizza thing is being psyopped into a "fake news" meme
asciilifeform: ''He did tell me what he thought were the biggest problems, in particular one problem," Trump says. Won't say what that was.' << mega-lul
asciilifeform: 'When Mr. Trump was asked whether he condemned an alt-right conference over the weekend in Washington, where some attendees raised their arms in a Hitler-like salute, he said, “I disavow and condemn them.”'
asciilifeform: ( from trinque's link )
asciilifeform: 'Mr. Trump denied that his campaign had energized the so-called alt-right movement, saying he disavowed it. “It’s not a group I want to energize,” he said. “And if they are energized, I want to look into it and find out why.”'
trinque: http://archive.is/xSf35 << Pressed on whether he had definitively ruled out a prosecution of Mrs. Clinton, he said, “It’s just not something that I feel very strongly about.”
mircea_popescu: so yes, for the people to whom "their" twitter's page is important, then "their" keybase key makes sense. and for the same money, for the people who breathe underwater, land respiratorial equipment is a must get. and for the people who are healed by collodial silver/prayer/psychic surgery etc, collodial silver/prayer/psychic surgery etc are useful.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: sure, logical explosion, though yeah that usually requires both attribute-holders to exist, if you're claiming one of them doesn't, then it's just a nonsensical statement. which i guess is your point... i suppose so.
asciilifeform: http://downdetector.com/status/google << in other lulz, guess who has dns outage today
mircea_popescu: and yes i'm aware that there exist geometric figures which do have radii. this isn't germane.
mircea_popescu: you might as well say "there are squares whose radii are larger than five". while arbitrary sized squares may in fact be constructed, squares still don't have radii and so you're still not saying something.
mircea_popescu: you understand how logic works, yes, once you have a true->false in the chain you can obtain any results.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger no, there aren't people to whom their social media accounts are really important, because there aren't people so that the "their" attribute may be applied to twitter's page.
asciilifeform: Framedragger: in as far as i can tell, it is a very ordinary trap for the wotless/unwary/eager young'uns, 'alt-right'-style.
Framedragger: https://www.patreon.com/user?u=4026664 << "Evilzone - Hacking and Security Network is creating security awareness". pay with paypal to support! gold
Framedragger: she said she tried recording herself sing schubert and it sounded horrible for her. :(
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: girl came back to me saying she doesn't want to do it, doesn't feel confident enough. "maybe later". owell.
Framedragger: i just don't like characterizations. (inb4 "but you don't defend when tmsr is characterised!1" << well, haven't seen much of the latter so far.)
Framedragger: trinque: well, there's that. not gonna argue with that. i suppose you're right.
trinque: and if they don't get your privkey today, they get it tomorrow
trinque: the point is cozying people up to the idea of 3rd party facilitated crypto over time
trinque: or did I just rub the pgp sauce on my twitter because it evokes a special feeling in my empty loins
Framedragger: look, obviously there are people for whom sociul media accountz are really important. some of them want to pretend they can use crypto, so they use keybase to help them "link" their accounts. while this is inane, this does not, in itself, pose a security risk, if done properly (with external program which handles your privkey.)
trinque: I roger verified my twitter and now twitter can't tweet as me?
trinque: look, that something "does something" and that being useful to the person doing are distinct
Framedragger: ugh, no i need to be an advocate of keybase.
trinque: use to what?!
asciilifeform: pray tell, what does this 'prove' and to whom ?
Framedragger: trinque: that you can use it without having to trust js not to upload your privkey.
Framedragger: trinque: well, you then submit "proofs" (say tweets) which you can open to actually confirm a pgp signed message saying that "@isuckballs is my (gpg id: ...) twitter account."
trinque: Framedragger: what the fuck does that do
Framedragger: asciilifeform: well, you can link your social accounts, and stuff. I'M NOT SAYING THAT IT'S NOT STUPID, but there's additional value
asciilifeform: Framedragger: why would a user who is able to 'paste signatures from external program' need a thing like keybase ?
Framedragger: but if it has a "luzer friendly mode" where "you don't need to external app yo", then that's bad by itself. :/
Framedragger: asciilifeform: i'm not disagreeing, and of course that's true. but it's still one thing to trust js which, say, generates privkey for you and then promises not to send it the server, "pinky promise" like, and another whereby you paste signatures from external program
asciilifeform: Framedragger: point is that wwwtronic crapolade can introduce arbitrary disjunction between what luser is doing and what he thinks he is doing.
trinque: go infiltrate teh hax0rs with your middle aged woman charms
Framedragger: i've stayed away from keybase as it had that creepy (and useless) hipsta vibe, but if true, then it's actively malicious.
Framedragger: asciilifeform: what do you mean, "slightly different js"? is there any point in time where you need to entrust your privkey to local js? i thought it was just a matter of giving it pubkeys and sigs?
Framedragger: if true, wow
asciilifeform: (in one variant; always; in another - whenever they feel like serving up slightly different js to the chump)
Framedragger: (i don't think keybase gets to see your privkey tho.)
shinohai: "Your privkey is totally safe with us!"
shinohai: I'm not entirely unsure this won't be the case in future, since last time I checked she had started using keybase.io
asciilifeform: not that the distinction is interesting in the given case.
asciilifeform: i have nfi, could be that both were named for same tv character or the like.
trinque: .... so that's "covertress" ?
trinque: meant the neurons; seems to me the right virus would yes, make the perfect creatures of idiocracy
asciilifeform: trinque: afaik it ~produces~ them..
trinque: maybe someday the right zika gets rid of them.
asciilifeform: greedy algo ~worx~. but it leads to the question of what the 'thinker' needs all of those extra neurons for. a dozen would suffice.
mircea_popescu: but anyway, to anyone who's not-them the whole thing is intrinsically self-critting
mircea_popescu: i think it must be blindness throuhg immersion (and a healthy dose of phonetics innocence, obv.)
asciilifeform: btw i once went to an 'alt-right' thing in dc. (with herr handle & co.!) -- and iirc literally everybody in the room was some form of j000
mircea_popescu: fucking insult to culture.
mircea_popescu: trinque maaan... that's pathetic.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman the problem is that if indeed the later level half-sh reward is not worth getting, THEN therefore the early level full level reward is also not worth getting.
trinque: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1o6-bi3jlxk << who could've predicted the flamboyant voice on this... heh, I dub them alt-boys.
diana_coman: that sounds to me like the perfect expression of monkey-brain: no instantly visible result means not worth doing
mircea_popescu: "oh but we are dedicated to not telling people what to do" "and your mother's a whore."
mircea_popescu: how the everloving fuck can someone write THAT rather than "DO NOT quaff level pots at low level" ? it makes no fucking sense whatsoever.