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[\]: I wouldn't put too much stock in it
mircea_popescu: punkman1 that's nothing, sometimes i see people in btc on linode.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: That article is part of the bit I am trying to get on slashdot nao
mircea_popescu: joecool lol amusingly i think i wrote last year about how mtgox is the one single worst thing in btc.
joecool: ;;rate MagicalTux -9 the single largest contributing factor to negative press on bitcoin and the lack trust of the community, not -10 because kalyhost hasn't burned me yet and I have a bet riding on you going to jail
nubbins`: i saw his name in an associated press article today
ThickAsThieves: ;;rate MagicalTux -10 Caused my father-in-law to call my wife worried about whether I got out of bitcoin before it died.
Jere_Jones: I'm still fighting with the configure. I have to add a line to touch a file every couple hundred lines because windows is dumb about empty sets.
Apocalyptic: "Chris Moore" oh did dooglus go public with his identity at some point ? I missed that
punkman1: "I barely have enough time to eat dinner, shower, and get online to research new cryptocoins to invest in. I have no social life, but this is of my choosing because I can't be bothered to socialize and waste money on a few beers and hang out with friends/women"
chatquack: Hey Thanks BingoBoingo. I'm glad ya like him!
mike_c: hm. i will pass it along. a friend of mine was looking. thanks.
BingoBoingo: I took most of my balance out of there. They are cutting down on their offerings a lot. No serious concerns yet, but be careful.
BingoBoingo: I don't see much Gox neg rating yet...
asciilifeform: maybe i'm thick - not sure how this connects
BingoBoingo: Well, If the US media was really that effective at promoting trends from Japan I would expect more emergency room visits from squid and octopus related injuries of the genitalia. Alas...
asciilifeform: (under no circumstances are cattle permitted to wander unguided, mp had a piece on this if i recall)
B007: I'm glad I don't have anything in GOX
d34th: i learned by putting my hand near and feeling the heat
lnovy: I don't think bitcoin public cares about that much details :)
BingoBoingo: I don't think Mark did much other than Highlight why PHP should never touch commands passed to a bitcoin deamon (hopefully not bitcoind for too much longer)
BingoBoingo: MisterE: Post I linked though was me telling them to get a time machine, because Gox's death should be the 11th least surprising thing in Bitcoin this year.
ThickAsThieves: in response to "I believe this is evidence of the social movement we're witnessing." (re: destroying iphones)
TomServo: Also surprised to learn it was reg'd 17-Feb-2014. I still call shenanigans!
TomServo: I was surprised to learn the gold coin find already had a website (saddleridgehoard.com)
ThickAsThieves: <benkay> you'd be well served by actually reading how they work, ThickAsThieves /// i dunno about well-served, but okay
BingoBoingo: I still think though turning a nuclear aircraft carrier into a portable farm could be a fun venture though.
BingoBoingo: I'd kind of like to see a modernized on of these https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brig
nubbins`: and today i learned what figging is
mircea_popescu: anyway, i'm off. looking forward to reading more derpage from clueless uninvolved people with delusions of self-importance tomorrow.
mircea_popescu: o i c
cads: I was just reading an article on tha
thestringpuller: and this is where I get back to work
ThickAsThieves: hmm i'm not addicted enough to put it in my butt tho
BingoBoingo: Oh, already a thing. I guess that means there are standards to compare to then.
ThickAsThieves: i have a ginger addiction
dexX7: http://i.imgur.com/2b8Fec3.jpg
mircea_popescu: because such attacks are difficult for ordinary people understand. I have trouble understanding your proposal - ordinary users will be easily bamboozled by a government sponsored security update. Further, when the crisis hits, to disagree with the line, to doubt that the regulators are right, and the problem is the evil speculators, becomes political suicide, as it did in America in 2007, sometimes physical suicide, a
cads: I believe that's, "release dat following statement"*
mircea_popescu: i guess no further need for grammar
cads: yeah I should
BingoBoingo: ThickAsThieves: Nah, I just want some IT drone to throw him some Trilema showing that Bitcoin regulated Gox out of existence using only death by exile as a regulatory tool
cads: I guess I should look into empirical studies to see how applicable it should be considered for options
ThickAsThieves: <BingoBoingo> http://www.hsgac.senate.gov/media/majority-media/chairman-carpers-statement-on-insolvency-of-major-bitcoin-exchange <<< now i just want gox to come back and say ha! we're solvent idjits
mircea_popescu: i guess it's time for teh halting problem
benkay: heh i got that from you, mircea_popescu
BingoBoingo: MtGox has barely moved S.MPOE I guess it was much less important than either OpenBSD Charlie Shrem's bong
mircea_popescu: benkay oh i c.
benkay: "yes you will" "no i won't fag"
ozbot: "I have read your website and it is obviously that your a foggot."
twizt: i dunno y people advocate for web apps
cads: so I guess this leads to efforts to quantify and estimate the actual brownian "volatility" in a given stock, given past observations.
ThickAsThieves: http://i.imgur.com/2b8Fec3.jpg
cads: I'm looking at the definition of geometric brownian motion as the sum of a normal brownian motion and a drift function, and I'm having a hard time believing it actually lets us model real world stocks.
cads: I have a question about the basic black scholes model
moiety: they have even taken the office plants i hear
gribble: I have not seen MtGox.
moiety: nubbins`: i think they have died from laughing at gox
deadweasel: I would liek this on my plates: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Come_and_take_it
thestringpuller: i didn't know about the beastie boys until 2002
thestringpuller: oh I'm too young to get the reference then
assbot: I don't give a shit who saw what and who did what or who did who.
dexX7: speaking of us bitcoin business. i'm somehow impressed about circle. came out of nothing, did nothing till now, but allaire participated as witness at the senate hearing, they joined the circle against gox etc..
ThickAsThieves: i thought campbx got banxed
dexX7: KRS-One: is this personalized? i don't even see a picture.. only text links somewhere inbetween.. "More woe for Bitcoin exchange Mt.Gox" + "U.S.-based Bitcoin exchange coming"
jborkl_: Tat, I think you are right on
ThickAsThieves: i don't think it's got a strong enough signal in all the altcoin noise
ThickAsThieves: LTC is gonna die I think
jborkl_: I was on RTBTC trading when they locked it - it was exactly 8:00 on the dot my time - roughly 15 minutes later they took down the site (if you tried to trade it said trading disabled)
ThickAsThieves: people are so dumb, i have 3 voicemails from a webhosting client asking for my email address, my domain for the business is literally just a logo and an email address
ThickAsThieves: http://i.imgur.com/T2RudcB.gif
azi`: i would assume they'd had to run at this point already?
azi`: the last time i spoke they said they are fixing it but have no ETA
azi`: i am somehow fascinated that they still keep support on irc
jurov: i took the litecoin one
cazalla: glad i took the gox out of business 2014 bet now
jurov: like tradehill? i can see them trying, but dunno
cazalla: i guess the new investors assume that whatever amount of goodwill is left in the brand is valued at more than what they are paying
Mallstromm: I mean... I also have like 0.0004 (or something like that) left on Gox. Probably 500 coins feels the same to Erik :D
cazalla: jurov: in regards to using a computer i should add
jurov: cazalla i would bet againt
cazalla: i would bet the average bitcoiner is more intelligent than the average joe
Mallstromm: but as soon as I buy the coins I'll transfer directly to cold storage. Daytrading is really not worth it IMO
Mallstromm: or, when I want to buy: just today I wired quite an amount to both Bitstamp and Kraken. I'm betting on a shitstorm happening in the media, noobs panic selling and thus I'm ready to buy all the sub-$500 coins I can
cazalla: i don't get it though, it doesn't take an intelligent person to figure out this was going to happen sooner or later minus specific details
Mallstromm: I just send the coins to the exchange when I reach my profit-taking targets - to sell them for good and to withdraw the fiat immediately
Mallstromm: jurov: well, daytrading is risky business indeed. I only daytraded during my "accumulation" phase. Now 90% my funds are in deep cold storage and 0% of them are on third-party services.-
Mallstromm: what I can tell you is that as soon as I had a +6 weeks delayed withdrawal I left for good. I didn't give them a second chance. There's really no point in risking your hard earned money when the insolvency signals are so strong
Mallstromm: jurov: seame thing about withdrawals, I had "trusted" status and everything went smooth (and by smooth I mean deposits that arrived to my bank in 2 days) until they weren't
Mallstromm: jurov: fuck. I've done at least a dozen deposits to Gox, a couple of them 6 figures of EUR -> and they arrived within one week
Mallstromm: I meant, I was a VERY happy Gox customer. I've bought hundreds of coins on there, sub $10. I have wonderful memories of Gox
the20year1: i asked those questions 6 months ago and every sign was leading to gox insolvency
jurov: for some ppl i know its like hazard
cazalla: i dunno, surely a noob would do research
Mallstromm: but I can understand some noob would just send them the money. But people that has been around for months? How come they have been caught with their pants down?
Mallstromm: cazalla: I do believe that there is a small amount of noobs/newcomers who probably just wired money to Gox because it was the best known exchange. I would have researched in forums, etc. as I did when I bought my first coins in 2012
cazalla: i really hope they did get ganked for 750k coins
cazalla: that's why i don't feel any sympathy for those affected by this
Mallstromm: there's only a reason for that in my book: fractional reserve. I work with banks and I know by hear that there are no "banking limits"
Mallstromm: cazalla: I'm just having fun. I left gox for good in August after I requested a SEPA withdrawal of just 30k EUR and after 6 weeks I didn't receive it