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asciilifeform: (no one admitted to noticing, when put up 1st draft as demo w/ old logs. but i noticed as soon as started reading vintage logs through it)
asciilifeform: when wrote 1st draft of logotron, i made mistake of sorting ~by time~, ended up with soup displayed
asciilifeform: btw possibly i mentioned, but the historic timestamps are all over the place
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'date' thing fixed. did find that clock on the box has drifted by + ~40min (it dun 'ntp'ism or any such.) suppose ought to fix (and get then phf-style odd timestamps) or leave alone ?
diana_coman: to link it to the previous thread, it seems to me quite similar to saying that "instinct" of noob pilot is shit, therefore instinct of *any* pilot, experience be damned, is just as shit; I seriously doubt this.
diana_coman: ugh; I still call it misnomer though; "growing" like a tree without any internal work still doesn't mean that everyone's just as hollow
asciilifeform: will throw in hanbot's http://thewhet.net/2013/09/your-feelings-are-out-to-get-you/ , nao these opposite charges can meet and produce gamma burst!1
mircea_popescu: telling a girl she's complete is like telling a pig it's a sparrow.
mircea_popescu: load, load, why not. perfectly anti-reality nonsense, crafted to appeal to a certain sort of moron.
asciilifeform: lol do i even want to load that link...
mircea_popescu: and yes, indeed their are -- her fucking guardian angels. never the fuck mine, holy shit burn the whole thing down.
asciilifeform: not only inner ear, but just about whole of flight instruction is about beating the 'intuitive' behaviours out of the student.
mircea_popescu: and no, of course "not needed", "do we still have to DO that". because why the fuck learn from the few and far between successes of that sorry failed republic.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: is interesting in fact to read about the era of flight before 'instruments'. lots and lotsa corpses on acct of 'seat of pants' as sole instrument
mircea_popescu: i'll be really happy to hear of another.
mircea_popescu: pretty much ONLY KNOWN SYSTEM where truthfully and genuinely, the promise of "drugs" or "tools" or whatever is actually fullfilled.
mircea_popescu: every time alf goes on about "mind enhancing tools" the pvhd is my mental model.
mircea_popescu: a: they both had this projected faint light line around the cockpit representing the true horizon. set so faint as to disappear in direct vision, it nevertheless informed the (more sensitive) peripheral vision, preventing accidents wonderfully!
asciilifeform: diana_coman: 'flask' is the py people's equiv. of 'hunchentoot'. eats the @app.route('/log/<chan>/<date>') etc sugars , does the 'html madlibs' thing on the 'templates' (a la 'cl-who') etc
snsabot: Logged on 2018-08-29 12:10:45 mircea_popescu: pro tip : the thompson's a passible concrete cutter. it comes from the same mental era as http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=warthog ; made by the same people for the same reasons, abandoned by the same cucks for the same reasons.
mircea_popescu: in other same "burn down tools" : what unites the here discussed sr71 and the other excellent us plane ever built, the warthhog ?
diana_coman: lmao; I puzzled when first saw there "flask" - but then again, not sure one can bake www-anything quickly without importing any mess
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: re titanium -- they still sell it. (quasi-monopoly. but -- and common misconception -- it aint because of the sands, at least not directly; but rather because ru has the only seriously developed infrastructure for ti metallurgy )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: re upstack , and yer gonna 'luvv' this -- i have the date link thing on operating table right nao, and loox like bug in... 'flask'
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-10 09:36:22 asciilifeform: ( meanwhile in su they quietly built mach5+ machine... )
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-10#1927117 << amusingly, the sr was built entirely out of titanium exfiltrated from a remarkably cluess soviet union (large portion of the "private companies" in the afore-mentioned germany-switzerland ***trade was this) ; nobody else had the rutile sands.
mircea_popescu: s sit in a circle and pick lice out of each other" is tooling.
mircea_popescu: but yes, the cunt lobby wants the tools destroyed, because the only thing that can oppose "let
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: as i understand, it fell victim to the idjit internal wars b/w diff 'competing' golden toilet houses
mircea_popescu: same bunch of morons who ALSO pushed through very expensive but otherwise mostly pointless sensor upgrade -- also specifically so as to claiom "costly"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, re the sr being expensive : it was not particularly expensive, even by the day's standards. it was however besed by the dumb cunt lobby who, for instance, WOULD NOT permit it get upgraded with a data link, SPECIFOCALLY so they could claim "useless -- data only avsilable on landing"
mircea_popescu: obviously from THEIR pov if there isn't any such thing as a spear to fucking poke them until they submit (yes, the SPEAR was the original society-changer, turned human tribes from matriarchy to patriarchy because finally there was an efficient way to make the dumb cunts stfu with their dumb nonsense) all the better ; but theirs isn't a legitimate pov.
mircea_popescu: if there's ten, ten million or no dumb cunts sitting around their holy tree or whatever the fuck chanting their spurious nonsense it makes no fucking difference whatsoever.
mircea_popescu: WRONG model. you don't want to grow cunts into "careerwomen" ; you want to grow boys into engineers.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-09 04:02:39 mp_en_viaje: 3) the whole of it was always hanging out with the cool people. i don't mean, "cool", as in, swag. i mean cool as in david lynch quote above, dork bought a 12 room house for $3500 in th worst gangland he could find for his wife and newborn kid and lived there, "the fear was palpable"
asciilifeform: last letter from him was years ago, he moved to a http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-09#1926670 , asked advice re choice of shotgun
asciilifeform: fella wanted to fly personally, got license even. but never afaik saved enuff for plane...
asciilifeform had roommate at uni, who got degree in building jets. but then realized -- no serious work. now astronomer..
mircea_popescu: but yes, the sort of thing involved there, such as "listen sonny, ever heard of Schlieren flow visualisation ? no ? look here, this is supersonic jet in flight!" are the primary dirvers of intelligent adolescents even putting in the work to become adult engieners in the first fuckin gplace
asciilifeform: btw the operator manual of sr71 was published in '90s, prolly on the net somewhere to this day, was interesting read
asciilifeform: ( meanwhile in su they quietly built mach5+ machine... )
asciilifeform: iirc it was axed as a 'lisp machine', cost like 100 ordinary jets. and they thought 'world's most golden toilet', the time of f35 , that ate ~three decades~ in promisetronic phase and now flying clothes iron... had not come yet
mircea_popescu: large undergirth of the whole "republican-democrat" debate being pepsicans. most of the manginas involved were republicans.
asciilifeform: whereas the idjit brass cancelled it and ~ordered the tooling destroyed~
asciilifeform: and k. johnson, 'the man who saw air', took it from drawing to flight in iirc <1yr !
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-10 06:09:42 mircea_popescu: meanwhile in highlights : the sr71 was probably man's greatest achievement wrt flight. item carried no flares/countermeasures, because its defense if fired upon was to... accelerate, and outrun the missile. mach 3 capable, flying at 20-25km, never shot down, its parts fit so loosely on the ground (because of the significant temperature variation it operated under, between relatively cold on the ground and very
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-10#1927087 << at one time i had a framed portrait (gift) hanging on wall. 1 of most beautiful machines ever built.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: of pastes and txt links , phf-style, is planned. of general html liquishit, a la arch.is -- not planned, it is serious open problem
mircea_popescu: btw asciilifeform is it practical to have an archival of links it sees bolted on to bot ?
mircea_popescu: incredible, i never had that atrocious outrage ambered before ?!
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-10 02:27:19 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, is it hard to make timezone settable from www ? then can get free faux cross of page boundaries
mircea_popescu: apache is in many parts a better system (in the sense of "system" used in "systems design) than the post-poettering and especially post-linus kernels ; mod_lisp may be a decent way to get lisp running in practice
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'ma look re the date
mircea_popescu: incidentally, i'm quite happy with jfw 's "Actually "mod_lisp" is perhaps a misnomer; it could be viewed as a generic IPC interface that comes with a Lisp implementation of the server side." comment.
mircea_popescu: ''← 2019-08-09" ; but http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-09 displays the empty 10th link, "← 2019-08-08 | 2019-08-10 →"
snsabot: Logged on 2019-07-31 13:15:34 mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-31#1925836 << this is quite factual ; the old women in this are mccain, grassley etc.
mircea_popescu: speaking of http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-07-31#1925848 , old woman cheney's moans about the sr-71's expensiveness should probably be mentioned also. inconsequential moron, which is how he escaped mention then, but instrumental in the edifying of idiocy-us, the successor state to vhs-america.
mircea_popescu: (and, while at it, how the first analog computers were developed -- no, it wasn't bomb calculators, it was jet engine air intake anti-unstarters for applications such as this guy.)
mircea_popescu: 'find out how a loose assemblage of rare metal parts flew on insecticide', how about that for a title.
mircea_popescu: possibly the "last great story"
mircea_popescu: oh, and of course it burns synthetic fuel, rather than distillate. so yes, chemical engineering too.
mircea_popescu: (great story re fabrication, too. item is 80%+ titanium, can't be washed in tap water, can't be touched with cadmium-plated tools, its story is totally worth reading from an 'achievement of human mechanical engineering' perspective.)
mircea_popescu: did 1km/s too
mircea_popescu: sonic flight) that its fucking tanks leaked fuel on takeoff ~as a design feature~.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in highlights : the sr71 was probably man's greatest achievement wrt flight. item carried no flares/countermeasures, because its defense if fired upon was to... accelerate, and outrun the missile. mach 3 capable, flying at 20-25km, never shot down, its parts fit so loosely on the ground (because of the significant temperature variation it operated under, between relatively cold on the ground and very hot in super
mircea_popescu: perhaps best illustration of the point : UTC hq from 1975 UTC hq from 2015 (ex otis elevator hq)
mircea_popescu: there was, of course, no supersonic civil flight since the concorde/tu144 retirements, so i suppose we could use 1970s as a high water mark. but if anyone's having kids these days, i believe by the time they're our age their only interaction with flight will be in the hanging-on-ropes format.
mircea_popescu: Let halves of aeroplanes turn overhead, their smoking, broken cockpits dripping "it is done"...
mircea_popescu: continuing trend set with "civil air managed to lose early 2010s the combined profits realised since man discovered flight" (and then continued by obama's ending of nasa to redirect the money no more properly african goals), white man is actually getting out of aerospace altogether.
mircea_popescu: in simple words, the F35 failure is bringing about a winter the likes of which was never seen ; previous achievement of lisp monkeys nowhere within 1%
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, is it hard to make timezone settable from www ? then can get free faux cross of page boundaries
asciilifeform: atm these do not know how to cross day page boundaries, however.
asciilifeform: atm these can only be constructed 'by hand'. if anyone has better idea -- plox to write in.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-09 17:36:55 mircea_popescu: earlier stopped at gelateria. nicely furnished. had no table service and only paper cups. ONE SIZE. no plates, no nothing.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-09 16:22:39 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-09#1926784 << yes, until you discover you can no longer get it to run.
asciilifeform: the fundamental mega-problem will have to be dealt with, one way or another
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-09 05:37:33 spyked: mircea_popescu, re. tmsr lang: could be one of two or three (or I dunno how many) langs, as long as tmsr owns 'em. atm there's no genesis for a cl compiler/interpreter (let alone e.g. networking code a la usocket, or a curl etc.), so... inb4 "fuck you spyked, I can't even compile sbcl, how do you want me to stand up your logotron"
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-09#1926728 << revisiting this mega-q : i've considered to bake a tmsr ~forth~ (general-purpose, rather than peh) . has the theoretical appeal that it could be bootstrapped 'M'-style, in asm. but could i convince anyone to program in it !
asciilifeform: and (as typically with adacore's 'extras') -- for no clear reason
asciilifeform: it's quite obese, btw, for those who haven't seen
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-09 17:04:22 bvt: asciilifeform: fished out some info re aws: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/koCFa/?raw=true (small patch for musl compat) and http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/avKyY/?raw=true (build instructions) seem to be it
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-09#1927011 << i'ma have to peek at this at some pt
asciilifeform: spyked: if you have archival logs you'd like to see eaten -- plox to write in.
asciilifeform: achtung, panzers! about to reset bot (5m)
snsabot: asciilifeform: time since my last reconnect : 1d 5h 8m
mircea_popescu: i suspect it'll be alling in the us too. it's how socialism works, give kids parents, give kids teachers, give kids jobs...
BingoBoingo: The idea that a school's particular program of study necessarily leads to a job in that field is far more intact in Latino land than it has been in the US.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-09 03:58:21 mp_en_viaje: this is utterly fucking false, of course. the telegraph doesn't get in a month the daily readership of trilema. but i think the ~pervasiveness~ of the antiquated, and mistaken, worldview may rub off on people.
BingoBoingo: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-09#1926659 << Related question I receive here is "What did you go to school for to do what you do?" I answer "Bibliotecas." "What does that have to do with what you do?" "Well, a bit, but mostly I just stumbled into a dragon's den shortly after school during one of those historical paradigm shifts and haven't been ate yet.
mircea_popescu: it's what's left. first service economy, then online economy, by now...
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-09 03:06:11 mp_en_viaje: incidentally, speaking of http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-08#1926225 : hanbot is taking teenaged / twentysomething females meeting the pizdi bill ; i presume asciilifeform is taking highly intelligent, shy & introverted males age-irrespective, math grad student prototype while diana_coman is taking inquisitive teenagers age irrespective and BingoBoingo latam... fema
BingoBoingo: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-09#1926567 << Reflecting on this today, I would like to collect journalistic minds.
BingoBoingo: "Herp Derp! We R Universitit. To get prestige we must linkbuild and clickbait against MIT in the Googlefight! To that we need to replace math with Pinoy."
BingoBoingo: Fuck that cornell MFA site is a shitter
mircea_popescu: but hey, i'm sure awareness suitably raised on the important topics. dude guaranteed "knows" about "earth sciences" "consensus" on "global warming" &c
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-09#1927033 << item pretty clearly begs, screams, to be rewritten in cl. but nao it is written, genesis'd, can be ~rewritten~ .
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it is difficult, tho perhaps not impossible, to picture someone who never heard of.. satellite
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-09 15:19:37 asciilifeform: this is not to say that 'impossible to logotron in ada', but that result will be 1) gargantuan 2) ~unreadable 3) likely buggy despite herculean effort
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-09 13:05:52 asciilifeform: finally eaten (1st pass!) of this spinebreaker log!
mircea_popescu: as far as i can tell legitimate traffic. wtf do i know