asciilifeform: until the real 'lenat leak' perhaps one day.

asciilifeform: draw own conclusions.

asciilifeform: ;;google douglas lenat

asciilifeform: even leaves open the interpretations 'genius scammer' or 'scamming genius.'

asciilifeform: rll-1 supplement does not settle the 'scammer or genius' question, perhaps surprisingly.

asciilifeform: genius: it worked, he wanted to conquer world / get rich / etc. with it.

asciilifeform: scammer: it never worked really, he won the 'traveller' tourney using his brain plus a few automated routines

asciilifeform: he never published the source of 'eurisko'. each hypothesis provides an explanation for why.

asciilifeform: the schoolbook telling of the 'eurisko' project - open an encyclopaedia of computing, traditionally it is mentioned as a seminal work - suggests this.

asciilifeform: another - where he was onto something.

asciilifeform: (the facts actually favour this hypothesis. he collected $billions for 'cyc' project, never showed any useful result.)

asciilifeform: one, where he's a scammer.

asciilifeform: there are two versions of the lenat story ☟︎☟︎☟︎

asciilifeform: it feeds a gigantic class of folks, some of whom could conceivably be of some use, most go back to home country after they had enough.

asciilifeform: yes.

asciilifeform: for some archaeologist to vomit over one day.

asciilifeform: it, too, was interred in some 'indiana jones' vault

asciilifeform: the real lol is that i had to write a report, quite like this one, when my contract was ending.

asciilifeform: at least 3 of the documents came from another place and were public for ages.

asciilifeform: lucky that the text is readable at all.

asciilifeform: and the original was probably put on record as a paper report, as well.

asciilifeform: another - my old lab's scanner.

asciilifeform: they mailed - paper.

asciilifeform: one - their end

asciilifeform: two scans.

asciilifeform: ocr for code is a nonstarter anyway

asciilifeform: decimation: i tried, back in the day, was not impressed with result.

asciilifeform: (e.g. 'kindle dx' with 'librerator' aftermarket firmware.)

asciilifeform: anyway, all this crud is in one convenient place now, and readable on civilized reading machines...

asciilifeform: but - life is short.

asciilifeform: and might be interesting to compare the dtic-online version to mine.

asciilifeform: used to be, these were just catalogue #s.

asciilifeform: (where do you think i got them)

asciilifeform: perhaps because i ordered them scanned...

asciilifeform: lol, looks like they posted it, too

asciilifeform: decimation: the one with actual code is the 'supplement'

asciilifeform: decimation: both rll pieces ?

asciilifeform: decimation: congrats

asciilifeform: decimation: djvu exists for a reason

asciilifeform: decimation: and 1/10 the render speed on small cpu

asciilifeform: presumably (2) then (1)

asciilifeform: both.

asciilifeform: decimation: lol << laugh, but if these folks had balls, they'd be stereotypically dangerous loons

asciilifeform: (see 'manifest' for which)

asciilifeform: and many pictures.

asciilifeform: old, crappy scans (esp. the rare ones that never sat on the net before)

asciilifeform: no ocr.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu, kakobrekla: let me know when you're done l33ch1ng t3h l33t w4rez

asciilifeform: sintered.

asciilifeform: mold << nope.

asciilifeform: decimation: i can only dream of them.

asciilifeform: decimation: those are quite nice

asciilifeform: decimation: what do you think.

asciilifeform: decimation: you know, 18th century happened, thread was invented.

asciilifeform: decimation: why?

asciilifeform: decimation: what hidden holes

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ^ w4r3z

asciilifeform: decimation: heads come with 'grep' typically

asciilifeform: decimation: this often annoys phriends who want an actual external copy of something in it...

asciilifeform: decimation: i tend to rely on my head

asciilifeform: shared a machine with a 'sollipse' - also abandoned, of no use. ☟︎

asciilifeform: of no consequence.

asciilifeform: ancient apparatus, abandoned

asciilifeform: test hash when done.

asciilifeform: it's an ancient box doing crawler duty

asciilifeform: please don't kill the poor bugger

asciilifeform: lol

asciilifeform: kakobrekla, mircea_popescu.

asciilifeform: http://64.85.171.71/lenat-leaks.tar.gz ☟︎

asciilifeform: sha256(lenat-leaks.tar.gz) == cf3a34181d3dff597f1d3fbd7f5678d65263720dbe6ce14dc814ff714d729015

asciilifeform: decimation: and anything that semiconducts is rectifier.

asciilifeform: decimation: if beam hits a rectifier, energy is absorbed instead of reflected or transmitted to other side of obstacle.

asciilifeform: decimation: more like a radar set

asciilifeform: decimation: nope.

asciilifeform: should be shat out by the time i'm done reading 'hour of reckoning'

asciilifeform: kakobrekla: ~half done

asciilifeform: kakobrekla: actually throwing it on a server.

asciilifeform: aka 'trinitite.'

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: neato! reading...

asciilifeform: wait people don't know what 'glassing' means?!

asciilifeform: kakobrekla: uploading turd...

asciilifeform: mats_cd03: i've been thinking about it ever since al schwartz recommended it in '01...

asciilifeform: what happens ?

asciilifeform: kakobrekla: now ?

asciilifeform: now?

asciilifeform: let's try that link again.

asciilifeform: 1sec

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: try: http://loper-os.org/pub/lenat-leaks.tar.gz.torrent ☟︎

asciilifeform: about to make w4r3z torrent...

asciilifeform: 240M

asciilifeform: djvu no less

asciilifeform: scans.

asciilifeform: 500 Mb or so

asciilifeform: or something like that.

asciilifeform: now we can finally destroy the universe by enabling any kid to build rogue ai.

asciilifeform: (a bit bulky)

asciilifeform: in response to years of prodding from various folks, and mircea_popescu reminding me that 'lesswrong' existed, i took an hour or so to digitize the old douglas lenat papers. now need a place to host

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: doesn't make it worthless.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it doesn't usually survive this treatment

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this is generally why ancient sf is best read in childhood