asciilifeform: orcs pilfering the wealth of men is a thermodynamic inevitability - like waterfalls. but there's a clever bugger drinking the waterfall, to run with the metaphor.
asciilifeform: 'so you won't buy plasmatron for yourself, voluntarily, ok. you'll buy it for this derp.'
asciilifeform: this is permitted to exist in precisely this form - for a reason. this is bezzlatron's way of making folks who don't want $consumercrud - buy it whether want or not.
asciilifeform: ru sp4mz0r steals cc #, charges 10k usd. on, e.g., 'amazon'; chumper reads his bill, complains, bank magically vacuums 10k+C (positive constant C, chargeback penalty) from 'amazon', plasma tv is nowhere to be found (drop house, magicked away)
asciilifeform: princeling - sins, whipping boy - grunts.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: they decided to "stop criminality" << not exactly. one set of criminals profits from every single penny of cc theft (bank) while another set (the sp4mz0r) gets to be made example of.
asciilifeform: ('live on' means, roughly, six fig. usd minimum., equiv. - folks who can live on tree bark, don't need to descend to writing turdware, tree bark is normally free for the taking)
asciilifeform: assuming no wish to forfeit your arse by dealing in fiat with known fiatmiscreants
asciilifeform: botnet << see logs from other day for rough calculation of how even half a million bots would scarcely suffice to live on
asciilifeform: the rest - prey animals for the 'tough on cyb3rsc4mz0rs!!!111!! arm of usg.
asciilifeform: the people who have the silent crown blessing to carry on with this - know who they are.
asciilifeform: (what fiat? mostly shenanigans revolving around the us/natoblok idiot credit card system)
asciilifeform: the basic fact is, unless you have the infrastructure for reprocessing hot fiat into purified chumpatronium, botnet is not of particularly much use today.
asciilifeform: decimation: existing botnet << often quite trivial. but then what to do with it.
asciilifeform: decimation: this was the most illiterate possible turd, consisting of entirely unmodified 'putty' with a batch script giving it command line args to create 'ssh tunnel.'
asciilifeform: ehe. i've a honeypot coughing up log to a scrolling term at all hours, reliably farts wp probing
asciilifeform: said mapping is nontrivial, and isn't getting any easier.
asciilifeform: (with brains - by definition. ones who operate in fiat - are diagnosably retarded here from our chairs)
asciilifeform: turdware is an interestingly btc-related 'scientific' field, because one hundred percent of folks with brains who have any truck with turdware (production end, that is) occupy themselves with somehow mapping their activity to btc income.
asciilifeform: so yes, same 3, and some imbecile paid for his command box addr to be hardcoded in
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: virtually the whole of the turdware world has, for some years, been accounted for by cargocult l4m3rs who 'license' a turd (why? because, even building a ready tarball found wherever - is far beyond their intellectual level)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: no exploitation to speak of.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it has to be vulnerable to something, right ? << hate to disappoint, but 99% of the chumps are accounted for by perfectly lame trojans.
asciilifeform: average out nonscalar values << curious what's in there
asciilifeform: thing is, insurance and full-blast commune are both ways of distributing risk. (sorta how cannibalism is just another way of producing meat, but i digress.)
asciilifeform: 'I would like to sell you some hunger insurance. Are you insured against hunger? Perhaps you should be! Without this coverage, you may find it impossible to continue to afford feeding yourself and your family. With this coverage, not only will you be assured of continuing to get at least some food, but so will I. In fact, thanks to this plan, I will get to eat very, very well indeed.'
