asciilifeform: yes i get that part - the only thing

asciilifeform: this plus a chronic lack of my being able to muster giving a rat's arse

asciilifeform: a great many cultural in-jokes and tidbits that seem obvious to a 'native' but utterly opaque to others.

asciilifeform: that's the catch really

asciilifeform: i had the rules of, e.g., baseball, explained to me - on more than one occasion - and promptly forgot the next day.

asciilifeform: brain just won't digest.

asciilifeform: ^ unique among just about all subjects, this remains 'greek to me' regardless of what i read.

asciilifeform had to look up 'bullpen'

asciilifeform: other than scientific curiosity, re: what fascinates various folks so much

asciilifeform: stays in - in the sense that not once have i ever seen any reason to give a damn about it

asciilifeform: what happens in - generally, stays in

asciilifeform: arena in the sense of reasonably strong containment

asciilifeform confesses that he doesn't see anything whatsoever that may happen in a gladiatorial arena as 'silicon valley fucked'

asciilifeform: ?

asciilifeform: 10,000 btc << building a planet ?

asciilifeform: pinpoint - no. approximately tell if they're running hearn turd - yes.

asciilifeform: one can fudge the version string in the proggy, yes, but if you're on the network, folks can presumably connect to your node and test behaviours

asciilifeform: decimation: seems like a question that ought to be answerable, at least very approximately, without their cooperation

asciilifeform: uncommonly useless chart

asciilifeform: (yes i get that the number is '0' for most of the above list)

asciilifeform: is there a chart of these sorted by hash/sec ?

asciilifeform: or 'toxi'

asciilifeform: and what is 'statoshi:0.9.99'...?

asciilifeform: so no win really.

asciilifeform: and, unsurprisingly, openssl

asciilifeform: never heard of it until now

asciilifeform: caesure << uses 'shrapnel', mega-libraryturd.

asciilifeform: version == log2(bytecount).

asciilifeform: half-seriously,

asciilifeform: byte counts.

asciilifeform: !s kelvin versioning

asciilifeform: or 'midascoin' ?

asciilifeform: and what, for instances, is 'caesure:2014' ?

asciilifeform: the non-classical version strings are interesting

asciilifeform: 'Eurasian hantaviruses can incubate for up to 42 days, but are not usually directly contagious between people.' (linked piece)

asciilifeform: 'They are not the first to blame Ebola for an ancient plague. Scientists and classicists in San Diego reported in 1996 that the symptoms of the plague of Athens around 430 BC, described by Thucydides, are remarkably similar to Ebola, including a distinctive retching or hiccupping. Apart from that, many of the symptoms of that plague- – and one in Constantinople in AD 540 – -were similar to the Black Death.'

asciilifeform: http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg17223184.000-did-bubonic-plague-really-cause-the-black-death.html << more interesting.

asciilifeform: about similar (in conceptual 'weight' rather than design!) to the unix described in 'lions book.'

asciilifeform: therefore closer to 'fits in head.'

asciilifeform: (bitwise)

asciilifeform: there's less of it.

asciilifeform: it is only less of a turd than other unix-likes because:

asciilifeform: there is nothing magic about qnx.

asciilifeform: at any rate:

asciilifeform: actually it had connections, and, afaik, still runs on various 'if they told you they'd have to kill you' hardware - but not a going concern

asciilifeform: (their entire business model consists of 'we're rather like linux, but closed-source and nsa-approved, one hundred percent Aryan')

asciilifeform: whose owner invented 'linux fud' !

asciilifeform: or, one might add, green hills corp.

asciilifeform: *closed

asciilifeform: qnx << a very interesting item, and i loved playing with it when young, but it was inevitably bulldozed by the age of no-you-can't-make-money-selling-close-os-unless-you-re-apple-or-microshit

asciilifeform: need both the will and the way.

asciilifeform: and presuming folks wanted to.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it would be, if it were simple to mirror. and every post signed.

asciilifeform: even the source doesn't fit on floppy

asciilifeform: i explained the floppy

asciilifeform: any of the 29 (?) magickey holders can make you one & sign it

asciilifeform: shrunk binary-only thing is the binary.

asciilifeform: that never pulls - anything - off the net on its own accord.

asciilifeform: bounce: we were discussing an ideally-portable and self-contained distributable build system.

asciilifeform: ^ i did point out.

asciilifeform: if someone wants to try building a cpp preprocessor using tinycc - be the hero, yes.

asciilifeform: and satoshi crapped out cpp and used cpp-dependant dependencies.

asciilifeform: fabrice bellard's tinycc would be neat, but no cpp.

asciilifeform: bounce: floppy << not for the whole orchestra, no. gcc alone, think! but to get minimal skeletal userland.

asciilifeform: decimation: bitcoind begs to be split into at least 3 programs << of which only 1 is necessary !

asciilifeform: and this, imho, is proper.

asciilifeform: controlled through (emulated) serial tty.

asciilifeform: my present emulation, incidentally, is not to have network access

asciilifeform: cross-compilation for linux/x86

asciilifeform is presently engaged in trying to collect the smallest (bitwise) possible bsd+gcc+etc combo that will build bitcoind 0.5-0.6

asciilifeform: 5.5 is almost new

asciilifeform: i've bound an odd book here & there.

asciilifeform: thestringpuller: afaik it has not yet been decided what ought to be between the pages...

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: what vintage?

asciilifeform: instant anti-ddos pill

asciilifeform: incidentally, anyone who wants to mirror the proposed mailing list, will be able to do so at his pleasure.

asciilifeform: yes, that's the only work-like part of this proposal, yes

asciilifeform: aha

asciilifeform: patch to mailman << why ?

asciilifeform: since, at least in the mechanism i suggested, no message shall be ever published that is not signed, any reader can verify that the mailing list is authentic.

asciilifeform: static html.

asciilifeform: jurov: also host a copy of the present state of the mailing list, perhaps

asciilifeform: and pubkeys naturally

asciilifeform: only really need stock gpg to verify.

asciilifeform: suggested script.

asciilifeform: the somewhere, incidentally, is a stable satoshi-based gizmo worth using as a base for rewrite (idk about other folks, i shall rewrite for my own pleasure if no one wants, once finished with current affairs) - and perhaps worth printing!

asciilifeform: it's the only way to actually get somewhere with the old tub we have.

asciilifeform: nope.

asciilifeform: the only way to emphasize the gravity of submitting a change to bitcoind.

asciilifeform: forsaking version control systems entirely!

asciilifeform: but wrong for this occasion.

asciilifeform: git etc. is very tempting, sweet, yes

asciilifeform: static www hosting latest stable result of composition of gpg-signed patches from mailing list - yes, more yoga, but ultimately the Right Thing.

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-10-2014#888734 ☝︎

asciilifeform: at any rate, imho git is entirely the wrong pill here.

asciilifeform: jurov?

asciilifeform: git clone http://therealbitcoin.org/test/bitcoin.git <<<< wtf nonsense is this, that's 2014 bitcoind in there.

asciilifeform: undata: the internet solves that << if only.

asciilifeform: i guess there's the elementary fact that a 70 y.o. head of a firm cannot turn into a 20. y.o. apprentice again

asciilifeform: undata: if one must have it