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davout: i now understand why it makes sense to have speed shown in knots AND mach number fraction
asciilifeform: the theory, i found appealing since childhood, yes
davout: i had no idea such a thing as a gyrolaser existed
davout: i've borrowed a bunch of theory books too, and tbh the learning process itself seems pretty cool too
asciilifeform: the 'bus', from what i can tell, mostly drives itself.
davout: ah yeah, i don't think there's much of that to be had
asciilifeform: it's an honest trade. my criticism was strictly re the 'oooh yeee haw' part.
davout: also i already moved to sunville!
asciilifeform: this - true.
davout: also the "maybe it's a really boring job, maybe it's really cool" question that could conclusively be answered with "let's fucking try"
asciilifeform: could just move to mircea_popesculandia. plenty of sun.
davout: i don't think it's the "piloting" part that's attractive to me, but more the "let's go see the sun" when all the other derps are stuck under a shitty stratus shittus overcast layer
asciilifeform: and even if it did not, nobody's doing acrobatics in a 400 tonne barge full of schmucks
asciilifeform: davout: understandably this is a matter of taste; but out of curiosity, where is the fun ? computer -- does ~all of the actual piloting
deedbot: http://thewhet.net/2016/argentina-comicon-bonbon/ << The Whet - Argentina Comicon Bonbon. ☟︎
davout: my impression is actually the opposite
asciilifeform: (no sleeping ad libitum, however, then. your liner might have to fly at 3 in the morning, or whenever.)
asciilifeform: davout: afaik that's about as much fun as being a bus driver... but iirc it pays well.
davout: i'm kinda considering getting myself a professionnal licence, to fly the big guys
davout: i'm quite curious about the rental rates where you live
davout: and remember that cessna runs on 100LL, which in my understanding is regular petrol, just dried up further to prevent carb icing
asciilifeform: horse -- eats even less than auto, say.
asciilifeform: yeah but who the hell counts ~hours~ when using transport ??
davout: if you find a flight school that's also renting it from you or something like that
asciilifeform: four times more per what ? per km ?? ☟︎
davout: i guess having one's own machine can make sense in some cases, mine's not one of them
davout: and that's for the two seater cessna 150
davout: 100LL gas is double the price of regular gas, and machine swallows four times more
davout: flying is financial insanity, having one's own machine is double the financial insanity
asciilifeform: i for some reason thought that davout had own machine
davout: there is like one cessna on this fucking island, and it's used by skydivers
davout: but seriously, you're a lucky bastard if you live accross the street from an airport
davout: maybe you should stop trying to vim with joysticks
asciilifeform: last time i used vim, i landed on a wing and burned to a cinder.
asciilifeform: davout imho is correct! vim needs a sim! to train on, so as not to die in the real deal.
asciilifeform: it is like if someone asked about mining in eulora, and you lot instead answered where he can find actual coal mine to work in
phf: i have same reaction to sims as mircea_popescu to counter strike, so when you say sim i think xplane, or precusors like mfs (that i hear some still swear by !!1)
asciilifeform: to this last question, i know the answer very well, it is not a mystery
asciilifeform: rather than 'where do i learn to pass exam for driving serious machine'
asciilifeform: this is why i was bewildered at the answers to this thread, i specifically mentioned 'contemplated playing games again after decade+', 'unwind'
asciilifeform: realistic sim is to study for exam (and, once you passed exam, to increase your life expectancy at the wheel)
davout: simming == what does this button do? does this work if i do the approach this way? what's that instrument?
asciilifeform: davout: yes, but not only in the direction you mentioned, but in the other.
davout: asciilifeform: there's a big difference between "simming" and "playing"
asciilifeform: is there also an 'old car' simulator ?
phf: asciilifeform: i don't have any peripherals. i use it for their instrument challenges, and they also have a mode where they randomly fail something in the plane and you need to figure out what do. that sort of stuff
davout: i'm sure you could easily find someone anywhere in the US by hopping onto #pilots or /r/flying
asciilifeform: and, theoretically, the d00d mentioned earlier -- also. but he had no plane. and last i knew had taken 'vow of poverty', became academic.
asciilifeform: actually i used to know one !
phf: davout: it's easier to find an instructor, than it is to "find any private pilot". plus you know asciilifeform objection "i don't know any private pilots" ☟︎
davout: they won't even be legally allowed to charge you more than splitting the airplane rental costs
trinque: there's also the difference in experience: walk into hangar, leave. some factor the anal examination into the cost of going by airline.
asciilifeform: at uni i roomed with an old friend, who dreamed of flying, ended up practicing with xplane, studying like maniac, paid his 20k, got the license, then bought, instead of airplane... a ship. which is afaik rusting in port still.
davout: no need to find yourself an instructor
davout: if you just want to hold the stick at cruise, and do some turning and going up and down, you can just go with any private pilot
asciilifeform: phf: you have the joystick, pedals, etc. also ?
asciilifeform: if you were to go ~every week~ (why???) then yes, save a few pennies. but then your life expectancy is a few years.
phf: sort of my thinking about flight sims. only reason i have xplane is for practice
asciilifeform: but it typically costs ~same to go to 1000km in it, as in a passenger liner.
asciilifeform: if a 50k rusty 'cessna' could go across ocean, that'd be one thing.
phf: "get to fly every weekend!1"
asciilifeform: i can do the study, hell, buy the machine, but i've nowhere to go in it. at some point might do it anyway when i get sufficiently bored and tired of living.
phf: but anyway, it's fun. not quite the same as a sim, i've no idea what these people are on about, but worth it if you have the cash. in fact if you can stretch 10k over a year, getting a license is not a bad idea
asciilifeform: (not that there is anything wrong with studying how to drive big rig)
asciilifeform: anyway original thread was about games. and yes, why play racing game, go instead to truck driving school.
asciilifeform: i've lived in roughly same town for decade +
phf: ha, then i know where you are
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2016/postcards-from-nutland/ << Trilema - Postcards from Nutland
asciilifeform: actually i live literally across the street from amateur airport.
phf: dc is kind of shitty that they (very few flight schools closebuy, with a lot of wealthy people learning to fly), but there was airport near philly where you could flag any of their instructors and they'd love to fly you around however long you want whether or not you commit to you "recreational" license ☟︎
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-13#1582570 << you also have "intro classes" that'll run you $150 or so with a reputable firm for half hour. i'm sure those same instructors would bring up the plane more than once under similar circmustances: you get to sit in the cockpit and "hold the joystick" at cruising ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-12-13 15:53 mircea_popescu: ^ that part gotta be in the logs.
thestringpuller: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-13#1582703 >> p. sure this is related http://trilema.com/2013/youre-the-guy-who-wasnt-good-enough-to-sling-dope/ ☝︎
asciilifeform: (boeing is the one exception i know of, it had a genuine history earlier, even a brief airline monopoly -- but then absorbed also)
mircea_popescu: this being the destructive idiocy of eating bad money - you're left without a company.
mircea_popescu: as it stands right now, lm can not confront its obligaitons to creditors (aka, bankruptcy) if it loses as little as 20% of us expenses.
asciilifeform: i suspect they can more easily cancel him, than him -- them
a111: Logged on 2016-07-28 15:33 mircea_popescu: if trump had any sense, lockheed, northrop & friends are FULLY defunded the same day, and are allowed the mercy to perhaps beg for SOME SMALL PORTION of re-funding, maybe, someday.
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-28#1510793 << not quite this, but a start. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform were you asking for him to hit the lizzards where it hurts ?
a111: Logged on 2016-12-13 12:22 mircea_popescu: sql-to-api thing is actually not half a bad idea.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-13#1582487 << to expand on this : such a model would actually do away with the browser altogether ; just discuss with servers in something like an extended irc client. (yes yes i know, emacs.) ☝︎
mircea_popescu: ^ that part gotta be in the logs. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: ovel as they think it is, where they can make mistakes without being corrected by people who do know better, where they can reap all the benefits early in life instead of having to work for 40 years first."
mircea_popescu: I believe it takes all kinds to make a working world, but what I find among the modern novices is that they do not feel the same way about the experts -- they want an expert-free world where their ignorance is not painful, where their inexperience is not used against them, where they get all the jokes, where nobody uses literary references that elude them, where every one of their ideas is accepted by their peers as just as n
mircea_popescu: to grow enough facial hair to need to shave daily not only to show off their insufficient beard growth as "hip" but to fill "leadership" positions where they feel threatened by anyone significantly older than themselves and where the inability to /lead/ is replaced by their simple skills at /managing/.
mircea_popescu: "to advance it is at serious odds with the massive glorification of youth. As marketing found itself unable to expand without encroaching upon our childhood, the intense drive to capture the minds of the youngest among us has tended to make people believe that 30 years of experience can be replaced by the young looks of rank novices. This is made worse by the management schools that make it possible for people who have yet ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2016-12-13 12:20 Framedragger: ^ just discovered this. "remove the CRUD", serve APIs directly from postgres. includes user/role/cookie management etc. pretty neat.
davout: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-13#1582484 <<< this looks pretty awesome actually ☝︎
asciilifeform: and not simply helpfully 'given' by helpful-people prior to arrest.
asciilifeform: supposing he even took dope at all
asciilifeform: why not do same thing but sober. so hard?
mircea_popescu: see alf, all these people proposing an end to usg are such lunatics and dope fiends.
asciilifeform: 'Kokesh has called for a "new American revolution" and has announced plans to run for President in 2020 on the platform of an "orderly dissolution of the federal government."' << pediwik
jurov: if only randists. there are plenty of kokeshists.
mircea_popescu: " on the Net, people argue about whether year 2000 is a leap year or not, so it's not as if you can rely on the answers you get."
Framedragger: (undergrad student circles, etc.; luckily those fall out of relevancy/radar as one ages)
Framedragger: hehe, don't know particulars, but it should be noted that he studied philosophy and in some of the circles he had to have business with, ayn rand sorta-has a place as a non-crackpot. hence the (arbitrary, otherwise) particular object of hate
asciilifeform: iirc he realized what was happening to his profession and began to work to leave it, the hard way, by learning an actual 'liberal profession' etc. but ended up leaving it 'the easy way'
Framedragger: [that reminds me, i bought a postcard of ayn rand and am yet to send this to a friend who is in full hate mode of her stuff. need to get this done for the festive season...]