asciilifeform: well depends what you need it for

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ask enthusiasts if there's any i/o support for it

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: debian - no idea. netbsd - almost certain.

asciilifeform: esp. if you behead it and use a terminal.

asciilifeform: kakobrekla: you can almost pretend it's a 'sun' or other weird ancient unixlike

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: you can perhaps guess what they were like, by the fact of having to ask the question

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: windows tablet existed.

asciilifeform: two closed turds, and you'll use the one with no shell, no posix, no modern build system?

asciilifeform: kakobrekla will voluntarily use winblows?

asciilifeform: lol!

asciilifeform: 45 cents for concert.

asciilifeform: ^ the busy signal in a u.s. pay phone (if you can still find one!) -- costs 0.50, and you'll find a 'nickel' in the coin return tray.

asciilifeform: microshit-free.

asciilifeform: that's literally the only thing going for it.

asciilifeform: nubbins` confronted with fact of having bought a fake unix box?

asciilifeform: why is it even still possible to identify 'large miners' as existing.

asciilifeform: miners << is there any actual reason why an arbitrarily large miner should not choose to appear as a large number of arbitrarily small ones, from the network standpoint ?

asciilifeform: or how did it go.

asciilifeform: undeserved prize tastes ten times as good.

asciilifeform: at one point, chumpnet miners often went through tor

asciilifeform: if the only enemy is ddos

asciilifeform: sufficiently large miner can, presumably, afford $maxint worth of proxies or even fallback isp.

asciilifeform: ahaha

asciilifeform: which problems?

asciilifeform: not a single mainstream mineatron, afaik, does anything useful against even a very pedestrian ssl mitm.

asciilifeform: mats_cd03: how one would even arrive at the idea of miner connected through tor?

asciilifeform: mats_cd03: the best idiots are the tor-miners.

asciilifeform forgot what a sack of shit classic bitcoind is, in terms of build deps

asciilifeform: people seem to forget why we even bought computers.

asciilifeform: make your own tx, with soviet calculator.

asciilifeform: hard disk is unnecessary, magnetized needles exist.

asciilifeform: if anyone wants to post checksums for vintage dependencies from build-unix.txt, appreciated.

asciilifeform: guide to bitcoin mitm for n00bz

asciilifeform: http://cryptome.org/2014/10/bitcoin-tor-nope.pdf << sorry no clean version of this

asciilifeform: ^ http://cryptome.org/https-ignore.jpg

asciilifeform: 'A visitor received this implanted, false message today, promoting the market of certificates of authority and encryption. HTTPS fetishists are trying to coerce us into using the crappy security gambit. Ignore HTTPS monotheists. Online security promises are hokum. This is admitted on sec discussion fora. Pushers of HTTPS, Tor, crypto, secure drops are David Blaines.' (cryptome.)

asciilifeform: ty

asciilifeform: aha like 'truecrypt'.

asciilifeform: 'obsolete' !?

asciilifeform: vintage tarball ^

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu?

asciilifeform: best heroes - post signed hash.

asciilifeform: kindly post hash.

asciilifeform: (as in, personally leeched as long ago as possible, and sat since)

asciilifeform: who has a known vintage tarball of 0.5.3 ?

asciilifeform: lol!

asciilifeform rereads log

asciilifeform: aha.

asciilifeform: what was the turd in 0.6 that made us stop short of it ?

asciilifeform: nubbins`: i just want to test build chain

asciilifeform: nubbins`: what was your starting point again?

asciilifeform: at any rate, just about any magnetic card with the right number of tracks (was it 3?) will open the gate.

asciilifeform: etc

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-02-2014#499334 ☝︎

asciilifeform: (for those wondering why it is so easy to sc4mz0r american magnetic cards, read log.)

asciilifeform: recording cc # day and night.

asciilifeform: and often, sc4mz0rz patch into the reader, and plant bug there

asciilifeform: any card will do!

asciilifeform: banks 24/7 << story. where i live, you can walk into the vestibule of a bank (where the atm often lives, on 'bad streets') using a magnetic card. implication is that it must be the bank's - but this is false.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in english, usually 'crime of passion' ?

asciilifeform: the kind that walked in the same suit for a decade - less plausible

asciilifeform: freshly-minted bums (or well-kept hobos) likely.

asciilifeform: so perfect.

asciilifeform: usually, entire floors empty.

asciilifeform: and quiet, very few people per square metre.

asciilifeform: The20YearIRCloud: library is heated in the winter, cool in the summer, no one hassles the poor bomzh to buy anything

asciilifeform: (the figure above)

asciilifeform: that's library alone

asciilifeform: for a human vegetable, who only needs to afford a hovel to eat, shit, and fuck in, and a tv screen - different cost.

asciilifeform: i give the library tidbit as an example of what, in my mind, 'not living as rat' involves

asciilifeform: (:re we)

asciilifeform: 'once there was The People, terror gave it birth... once there was The People, and it made a Hell of Earth...' (kipling?)

asciilifeform: bounce: they used to at least let people into the libraries without membership (though could not check out books, or read - the now all - electronic - journals.) but the bums began to nest there.

asciilifeform: and pay.

asciilifeform: if you're a civilian - you pay.

asciilifeform: or into benefit package of being a loyal servant of Crown 'scientocracy' (professional academics)

asciilifeform: rolled into that particular chumpatronic prize.

asciilifeform: well yes.

asciilifeform: (the university kind, that idiot college fauna get into for free)

asciilifeform: i have to pay several 100 usd / yrs. to access library.

asciilifeform: here's a random example of what it costs to effectively think about problems in the physical sciences, without a Crown license.

asciilifeform: (re: 'about fuckyou not the rich')

asciilifeform: ^ yes. just as freedom may or may not be about a hacksaw, depending on whether one is in prison, and of what material the prison is made (a pair of clippers may suffice for a savage rope cage, etc.)

asciilifeform: lol

asciilifeform: doesn't everyone presume his way of living best, or he'd do otherwise << 'you go to war with the enemy you have, not the enemy you wish you had'

asciilifeform: ahaha

asciilifeform: lol i was beginning to think that diogenes was mentioned precisely because my 'best' is as odd as his was.

asciilifeform: The20YearIRCloud: co-authored with mircea_popescu.

asciilifeform: The20YearIRCloud: s.nsa. first project is a small electronic device, 'cardano.'

asciilifeform: The20YearIRCloud: all pertinent info is to be found on his site, do read the monthly proclamations if interested in the subject

asciilifeform: The20YearIRCloud: to a very limited extent. (mircea_popescu insisted that i bill for the construction of the three-axis robotic platform for prototype assembly.)

asciilifeform: was obscene price tag, for given qty, and they wanted auto-kitting

asciilifeform: asked 'golden phoenix'

asciilifeform: even the comparatively smaller undertaking i'm presently engaged in - still doesn't come cheap. (i speak of the tooling which i have not charged to the piggy, but also of the fact that i cannot convert btc to usd even for those portions where expenses invoiced. as previously recounted here.)

asciilifeform fails to apprehend, with puny brain, how this can be done on rat budget

asciilifeform: aha

asciilifeform: ?

asciilifeform: (though those may also be 'projects')

asciilifeform: the particular species of projects i engage in. not sand castles out of cow shit in bangladesh.

asciilifeform: if i can't afford projects, it isn't life.