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diana_coman: asciilifeform and anyone else interested in the awk log converter from irssi : http://ossasepia.com/reference-code-shelf/#selection-985.0-985.18
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-12 06:54:58 mp_en_viaje: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-12#1927795 << nope, they're in my own logs too seeing how i put them into teh chat with my own hands.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-12#1927867 << this solves ~half~ of lobbes's riddle. observe that they work , when i throw'em in ( as well as all uniturds in phf's and diana_coman's dumps , imported w/out issue )
ave1: There seem to be 3 states; 16, with child, old
mp_en_viaje: i didn't mind it so much twenty-odd years ago, but meanwhile apparently it's become intolerable.
ave1: Yes, they all look like 16 year olds
mp_en_viaje: let them figure out how to grow girls that don't look like little boys.
mp_en_viaje: im not going back to kiev.
ave1: mp_en_viaje: Yes, although we travelled on to Vinnitsa right away and I'l be visiting Kiev for 2 days end of August
mp_en_viaje: http://ave1.org/comments/feed/ << missed diana_coman not in the feed (and obv also not in the shorted list on blog side) so now i dunno what it was!
mp_en_viaje: Saturday we flew to Ukraine << roflmao wtf, we missed each other by a week then ?
mp_en_viaje: is this intentional ?
ave1: I am sorry, somehow between all the spam of "I like your writing style" it got eaten.
mp_en_viaje: ave1, your pics break across the blog
mp_en_viaje: for all you know, someone tried.
mp_en_viaje: why, so they can be "in the hospital" with "a sepsis" ?
diana_coman: quite; for lack of anyone giving them a good beating when they are so amused, grrr.
ave1: diana_coman: It seems one of your comments ended up in the spambox. Could you try again?
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, with amusements like that, who even needs strychnine anymore.
mp_en_viaje: and no, the difference isn't the tits.
mp_en_viaje: that guy was eminently ALSO capable, in the of-this-list sense fo capacity. he wandered off on his own power, there was no "meet mp" moment iirc. but there's inescapably, overpoweringly, a difference between the daimons (one of the first trilema participants, back in 2009), and the phfs (as it happens, the most recent "victim" of my "abusive" approach to disreality) of the world, and nicole on the other.
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: it's "amusing", right? that "oh, how funny you are trying to do something, how entertaining" is such great heights of being great, I can't even
mp_en_viaje: kinda brings some unexplected points in focus : when i started trilema, i was almost 30. when daimon ended his blog, he was almost 30. now compare, from http://daimon.me/aleph/2017/ to http://daimon.me/aleph/2019/ versus http://trilema.com/2009/ to http://trilema.com/20011/ -- how does it come out ?
mp_en_viaje: "oh, the notre dame burned down, huh", vorba francezilor.
mp_en_viaje: in other news, holy shit spyked that daimon carcass is sad. whole thing fucking became an epitaph of derealisation. "gândește-te așa: dacă azi ai asculta Mafia pentru prima dată, te-ar impresiona atât de tare încât te-ai duce la un al doilea concert?" ; "mă simt oarecum … scos din schemă. Watching from afar, vorba francezilor. Zbaterile locale devin maxim amuzante. Vin firme noi pe piața din Timișoara, îmi inundă inboxul pe Linked
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-12 04:39:45 spyked: BingoBoingo, re. linux music player: I was using cmus and rhythmbox at the time (and before that I used "banshee", some bloatware written in C#/mono) and they both eventually cracked under the pressure, in different ways (segfault or hanging). so I fell back to more lightweight frontends for mplayer, e.g. mpv, and found out again that scriptability far surpasses the need for any GUI/TUI
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-12 00:04:32 lobbes: could be... hence I think mp_en_viaje is right: I'ma have to publish so the real doctors can help me dissect it
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-12#1927802 << it's already turning way more informative than you brooding upon it in solitude, and upon multiple directions too!
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-12 00:02:17 asciilifeform: or hm lobbes , can you elaborate re the internals of your thing ? does it put into wp at some pt , and ~it~ 'smartly' replaced % with ÷ and so on ??
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-12#1927795 << nope, they're in my own logs too seeing how i put them into teh chat with my own hands.
mp_en_viaje: holy hell how can i be the only one plagued by these.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-12 00:00:51 asciilifeform: how thefuq did that even come outta anybody's keyboard tho !!
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-12#1927792 < what, seriously ? you can just compose : and - in screen. or i think x too. or you know, you \div in latex ? or like... you use R at all.
mp_en_viaje: (i end up leaking these in because of other software written by finnicky people who don't like / or * because "there are correct signs for that")
mp_en_viaje: whole thing seems to be mostrly me using the proper math symbols of mult and division. i R-epent ?!
mp_en_viaje: lobbes, and × aka c397 also ? these aren't THAT exotic are they ?
mp_en_viaje: the item sounds like you got a diff comment in the spam queue.
diana_coman: I kind of wonder what am I applying for, though!
diana_coman: o.O ave1 your blog sez "spammers need not apply" to my comment
mp_en_viaje: lobbes, so going by your paste, does ÷ crap out on your encoding covnention then ? it's an obelus
feedbot: http://ave1.org/2019/on-the-road/ << ave1 -- On the road
mp_en_viaje: also explains why it never goes that way, like you say. if it's something you only do when you're poor, there's never going to be olympics of it -- those guys ain't poor.
mp_en_viaje: this kinda proves the "fundamentally uninteresting" point to my eyes.
mp_en_viaje: see, daydreaming as an activity is a switchoff, always there when... reality goes under a certain threshold. daydreaming is the backup girlfriend, the one you call when better plans for friday night failed.
mp_en_viaje: only at certain times.
diana_coman: but somehow they still seem perfectly able to go about it until they die (and apparently they don't die of boredom either)
mp_en_viaje: the problem with daydreaming is that it's fundamentally uninteresting, even to the kids themselves.
diana_coman: historically it just about never goes that way, of course.
diana_coman: it just seemed to me that Anon(s) was pouring so much effort into constructing all sorts of "he's bad" about anyone as soon as it seemed "safe" to do it that..well, maybe he finally gets the idea of pouring that effort into something more useful
mp_en_viaje: https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/David_Futrelle for the drama inclined
mp_en_viaje: but what am i going to do, break it ? tis history.
mp_en_viaje: i dunno if the orig Anon still writes even.
mp_en_viaje: the Anon on trilema was for a few years genuine anon person, but then someone figured out the email, like in the satoshi incident later, so now it's in principle anyoen who knows about that.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-11#1927780 << I do not expect that's his blog ; item is work of (relatively) well known internet lulzcow, one David Futrelle, a one-time pick-up artist / big man leadership dood meanwhile turned on the other side of the "BUT OBVIOUSLY, do we still have to DO this" cvasi-debate.
mp_en_viaje: there's dcc, which while useless at least has historical logic, tryna compete in the field of the time, file transfer. because ~anyone wanted irc wanted so as to sext
diana_coman: ctcp does have the flavuor of "improvements by the crowd"
spyked: mp_en_viaje, that's a fair point, client behaviour of "open link" (click, ctrl+click etc.) should be a client-side knob.
spyked: diana_coman, ty for the reference. btcbase does distinguish ctcp from the rest of msgs by... removing the ":" after the nick. I don't think it's a big deal either way, just noticed it while reading html log.
mp_en_viaje: has this one visible tentac le here, otherwise does all sorta idioti things, i turn it all off on my clients
diana_coman: above it was more of a surprise at "why store it at all if it's not going to make any difference at all anyway"
mp_en_viaje: it's basically a tumour grown upon irc protocol.
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: when trying to come up with a reason for it - no, nothing comes up really;
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: myeah, to me all www looks like "big pile of chairs that nobody ever cleaned up at all either"
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, do you see value in maintaining the "ctcp" pile ?
diana_coman: hm now - should I have linked his answer rather than the start of the thread?
mp_en_viaje: wtf OTHER targets were contemplated such that target=n or target=new were both not good enough ?
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-11 11:03:43 diana_coman: asciilifeform: actions seem to show in logger as text said rather than in any way different; is that intended? I don't quite grok what's the thing with *nick then?
mp_en_viaje: "oh, so they were retarded."
mp_en_viaje: wtf pile of eyesore and assorted sadness html spec turns out to have been. all sorts of dangling nonsense a la above, it's the one midden that'll say the least flatterinfg things about humanity to the future archeologist.
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, i have been taking them out from tlp for instance.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-11#1927733 << there's certainly a size limit.
diana_coman: I also ctrl-click so didn't notice but I don't see the reason to bake in "new window"
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-11 22:33:12 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i can't resist to ask, didja actually work through the ro, or relying on googlefish etc ? cuz if it's the latter, yer certain to step on some sharp nails
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-11#1927726 << this is so, ro trilema utterly unamenable to automation.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-11 20:44:08 BingoBoingo: Ah, how much simpler the world was on its surface a decade ago http://trilema.com/2009/treceti-pe-open-source/
mp_en_viaje: let links be links and ctrl-click them when you want a new window, why not.
mp_en_viaje: and i always ctrl-click anyways so i don't notice ; but i suppose might be desirable for some ? though, why have it baked in when you have the ctrl key to make up your own adventure ?
mp_en_viaje: spyked, honestly i wouldn't support the distinction.
spyked: also, a matter of personal preference: I've grown used to the btcbase behaviour of links opening in a new window. is this desirable/annoying? does anyone else care?
spyked: asciilifeform, minor nitpick re snsabot: I see no difference in the www interface between CTCP actions (the /me thing) and normal replies. e.g. I would expect ^ to be rendered as "spyked also tried ..." instead of "spyked: also tried".
spyked also tried "mpd" once, but only managed to make system-wide config, no user-level; and iirc launching it required special privileges, so I eventually gave up.
spyked: and by frontend I mean, proggy that receives file as command argument and plays it -- in case of audio file, without spawning anything graphical
lobbesbot: spyked: Sent 7 hours and 49 minutes ago: <BingoBoingo> re: http://daimon.me/blog/2012/05/winamp-ruleaza-cat-si-doua-vorbe-despre-linux/#comment-8147 the music player for linux is cmus
spyked: BingoBoingo, re. linux music player: I was using cmus and rhythmbox at the time (and before that I used "banshee", some bloatware written in C#/mono) and they both eventually cracked under the pressure, in different ways (segfault or hanging). so I fell back to more lightweight frontends for mplayer, e.g. mpv, and found out again that scriptability far surpasses the need for any GUI/TUI
lobbes: could be... hence I think mp_en_viaje is right: I'ma have to publish so the real doctors can help me dissect it
lobbes: asciilifeform: essentially, there's a ZNC logger and files. Then I have a cronjob that runs the heathen logs2html, then another cronjob that transfers these files to the /var/www/ side
asciilifeform: note also that ~this~ alone wouldn't turn it to barf, the above lines logged and display correctly
lobbes: in either case, re: upstack I'm going to take mp_en_viaje's advice and just genesis the eulora logger as-is. It is a good point that nobody has to use the genesis *as is* (and indeed, publishing today means I can look back on it tomorrow)
asciilifeform: or hm lobbes , can you elaborate re the internals of your thing ? does it put into wp at some pt , and ~it~ 'smartly' replaced % with ÷ and so on ??
asciilifeform: how thefuq did that even come outta anybody's keyboard tho !!
lobbes: asciilifeform: re: that upstack Q, perhaps you are right. There was a link to some shithub source iirc
asciilifeform: displays an' logs properly tho, here
lobbes: Hopefully someone else has cleaner ZNC logs. But fwiw in the meantime, I've produced a list of the problem indicies/original logdate/loglines >> http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/3yWtw/?raw=true
snsabot: Logged on 2019-06-23 17:34:06 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-23#1919680 << fwiw asciilifeform has not used 'portage' in year+ -- the heathen portage finally 100% broke then. ( 'updated' on the gentooist end, so that no longer agrees to build ~anything~ without 'new profile', and won't install 'new profile' because hard-contravenes asciilifeform's poetteringisms ban list... )
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-11 18:43:58 lobbes: mp_en_viaje: regarding a) it is because even if genesis-ed the user would need to install and use pip >> http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-07-28#1925233
asciilifeform: climbing upstack, http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-11#1927615 << lobbes why is this ? i haven't encountered yet a pythonism that actually ~demands~ 'pip', they're all installable manually (and/or, on older gentoo boxen not yet hosed -- via 'portage' )
lobbes: As for *why* these have rotted so: I am not sure. My best guess is that it is because my current #e logotron does many copy operations per hour from the ZNC files (though this is just a stab in the dark; I really don't know if this would cause bitrot)
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asciilifeform: we'll 'manual clean' if there is 0 other choice, but presently would rather know wtf happened to this thing
asciilifeform: at the very least you'll want >1 indep. copy of the pertinent lines