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Vallance: It's becoming increasingly more difficult to find
a place to have an intelligent conversation about Bitcoin in public on the internet.
Vallance: Well, just trying to become more pro-active about using the WoT and I follow MPOE quite
a bit and enjoy the opinions this channel shares.
moiety: not that i know of but apparently its
a worry in independence
moiety: wasnt planning on using it again, just
a one off thing for quickness...stupidly
punkman: moiety, one of these days btc-e will disappear, don't be
a bagholder
BingoBoingo: What, I'm hairy and spend
a lot of time in the water
Vexual: sydney oysters are really good, its
a thing
assbot: This is
a thing: Greenscreen-clad workers who secretly flip models' hair during shampoo commercials.
http://t.co/tfHvykkxS8 ht /MakingOfs
cazalla: i mean, you can get it at the fish market for 2.99
a kg that's how bad it is
cazalla: aussie salmon is
a great game fish but shitty eating
mircea_popescu: TheNewDeal: The site profits off total volume, not someone forking over
a risky bet on one side << nobody prevents you from covering the short end after bet is approved.
mircea_popescu: bloctoc: they would have to be sold at
a later date since there are no buy orders yet. << actually that 25 was
a buy order iirc
mircea_popescu: moiety: i was marooned on the sofa for some time due to
a rather fast large spider travelling around my livingroom floor <<< ahahaha so cute
mircea_popescu: "it's like airbnb of messaging and uber of boarding houses rolled into
a joint and whazzup dude ?"
moiety: they left the scales on haddock once in
a restaurant i as at. i don't know if it was
a mistake or that happens anywhere in the world but just.. no.
cazalla: supposedly, i've never had or made it before, i've been keeping livers frozen as it didn't seem worthwhile to make
a small amount and i butcher them as needed so it's not like i have
a lot of livers at once
Vexual: rabbit pate is
a thing?
cazalla: have
a bunch of livers to make pate with on weekend too
Vexual: he rolled up to parliment in his vintage silver shadow
a few weeks back, van morrison blasting, hopped out and gave
a speech to the waiting press about how politicians should pay for their own cars
Vexual: he flew gore in to stand next to him at
a press conference and give the nod to repealing the carbon tax with
a view to setting up interational emmissions trading
TheNewDeal: Also, why is it said that BitBet "fronts" .1 BTC on the bet? I thought they split .1 BTC, some portion going to the original bettor, and the other portion is
a wager that will pay the site
TheNewDeal: The site profits off total volume, not someone forking over
a risky bet on one side
bloctoc: you had me until "FB Stock is volatile". Meanwhile I understand the concept of hedging, I just didn't realize when I asked the question that there was such
a thing as F.DERP
benkay: for
a second i was hoping to learn something there :D
TheNewDeal: in reality, FB stock is volatile, could potentially have
a large shift in the 30 day period
TheNewDeal: in
a theoretical scenario,
a company pays for the worth of the startup
Mats_cd03: on the subject of bets, write
a proper proposition and that can be your hedge.
benkay: D.BPAY is
a hedge against the fartup cirkus producing something with market value in the next year or w/e
benkay: what, hold btc's not
a good enough hedge?
bloctoc: they would have to be sold at
a later date since there are no buy orders yet.
TheNewDeal: well BPay shares can be sold at
a later date, no?
bloctoc: not saying it's absurd, it's
a serious question.
moiety: i was marooned on the sofa for some time due to
a rather fast large spider travelling around my livingroom floor
Mats_cd03: why bring babies when you can bring
a carton of dinosaur eggs
ThickAsThieves: <+mircea_popescu> get out. they gotta be physically there too, it's not worth it /// until someone makes some AirbndUberApp that makes doublespending
a crowdgoal or whatever
Naphex: but for signing
a multisig not that bad
Naphex: mike_c: its just for signing
a transactions that is already composed and signed, multi sig also
dignork: Naphex: dealing with noobs, worst question is: how do I get
a pubkey
Naphex: but kinda fits, what i was looking for is something where you input transaction, signed & composed by person
A dignork: it was
a POC code I assume
Naphex: its no problem, was just looking for
a already made tool
Naphex: probably even simplify and use lotsa scrypt rounds and use
a password to gen priv key
Naphex: davout: yep, but you need to make
a json array with the redeemScript, inputs and script-pubkey
davout: Naphex: maybe an idea would be for them to simply use the qt built-in console rather than
a full-fledged terminal?
Naphex: davout: just need em to sign
a transaction once in
a while
Naphex: the yeah i know sx, but needed something to give to
a noob. who won;t be able to command line it:P
Naphex: dignork: nah something custom, just sign
a multisig with
a privkey
davout: TheNewDeal: if you give some low value thing in exchange for
a zero-conf tx, you might find it useful to immediately get the information that someone is attempting
a double spend, rather than having the info cock-blocked
TheNewDeal: wasn't sure if it was considered bad behavior to propagate
a double spent output
davout: mthreat: i know
a guy that did if you're interdasted
davout: TheNewDeal: you don't double spend
a transaction, you double spend an output, but other than that, nothing really until one of them gets into
a mined block, more information can't really hurt
mike_c: you mean what happens when
a block is orphaned?
TheNewDeal: well what happens to
a node that has
a transaction and receives information about
a double spend of that transaction?
davout: mircea_popescu: thinking about it, i'm usually not very fond of arguments that nodes should behave
a particular way, simply interested in the case against transparently relaying all legal txes, even if they are double spends
mircea_popescu: they have no incentive (perhaps the best candidate for
a satoshi oversight is not putting any incentive for tx relay at all) to behave properly and
a lot of different types of misbehaviours necessarily include themn
Naphex: to pass to
a noob to sign his stuff
Naphex: anyone can recommend
a easy tool to sign multi-sig transactions ?
mircea_popescu: seeing how blacklisting is still
a thing, consensus kinda favoured current behaviour for good game theoretic reasons
mike_c: the double spend had to do with making the SD tx ugly (lots of inputs), and double-spending with
a fee. SD just started using fees and problem went away iirc.
TheNewDeal: I thought you could just send 2 transactions before
a block is mined
TheNewDeal: ok what happens if I have
a laundromat and the washer accept bitcoin. Someone finds out they can just come and get two loads for the price of 1, dry 2 loads for the price of 1, etc
mircea_popescu: you got
a better deal with this than with them putting in us quarters anyway.
pankkake: do you think they will double spend to buy cheap food? in
a physical location?
mircea_popescu: TheNewDeal at the size of your purchase you can prollylet them go on one confirm. who's gonna dblspend for
a can of coke
TheNewDeal: ok I have
a stupid question. What happens if I have two vending machines that sit side by side and both accept bitcoin. Will people have to wait for 6 confirmations to receive goods, or is there some other way to receive their bitcoin safely?
assbot: F.DERP,
A New Bitcoin Short-Only Hedge Fund Targeting Major Bitcoin Startups
pankkake: wait I've been running
a node for years, can I get paid?!
moiety: mircea_popescu:
a question I have since repeated tomyself so many times.
moiety: do yous remember the failed attampt at
a bitcoin facebook?
assbot: 'Adopt
a Node' Project Aims to Bolster Bitcoin Network Security
pankkake: I had
a blog when it was trendy to have one
pankkake: I *had*
a Twitter account but was never really active, and closed it years ago
davout: france vs. ecuador was such
a fucking pain to watch
mircea_popescu: "That last point probably needs some elaboration. You see, #bitcoin-assets makes
a distinction between “being wrong” and “being stupid”. If you are “wrong” about something the implication is (and should be) that you are self-aware enough to explain your reasoning well enough that one of three outcomes occur: those in conversation either come round to your point of view; or they agree that you have
a valid l
mircea_popescu: <dub> is that an organisation for the purpose of immediately surrendering to anything that threatens crypto << don't knock it, it's
a splendid strategy.
pankkake: I googled "Bitcoin is not
a payment network" and guess who I end up finding… MPOE-PR
mircea_popescu: justusranvier lol that's quickly becoming one of the most loved b-
a links
dub: give
a troll
a break, trying to fill my quota here
davout: dub: it's like
a coworking space/atm spot/meetup place
bitcoinpete: it's
a bit surprising to me too because most of those community-minded types wouldn't (and couldn't) touch -assets with
a 10 ft stick
bitcoinpete: davout seems they follow the action on -assets and know who i am, much to the surprise of
a developer i know visiting paris
moiety: someone tell me again why i run
a site that attracts utter retardation on
a frequent basis
justusranvier: They used to do
a much better job of maintaining the illusion.
mircea_popescu: justusranvier i dunno. as
a compulsive reader of supreme court caselaw up until about the 70s i must say it was pretty good literature.
justusranvier: It is the role of that court to present the peasants with the illusion of fair play and the rule of law so they don't revolt. They aren't doing
a very good job.
mircea_popescu: finding the source link to
a quote has never been this difficult