asciilifeform verified this personally

asciilifeform: even voip lines from various carriers work fine at 14.4kbaud.

asciilifeform: afaik went nowhere.

asciilifeform: (similar to this one, also theirs, http://www.loper-os.org/vintage/paralleleye/eye.html )

asciilifeform: 'reflection technologies' had, around 1990, a prototype of a pocket phone that sent, received faxes, and view through ocular

asciilifeform: go verify.

asciilifeform: i bet they're just dying of boredom. won't somebody help.

asciilifeform: incidentally, i bet there's still a battalion at ft meade in charge of curating a library of sploits for fax machines.

asciilifeform: facks.

asciilifeform: fax

asciilifeform: afaik no one else bothers with fac

asciilifeform keeps a fax in consulting office. it is used only for usg.

asciilifeform: telex!

asciilifeform: fax?!

asciilifeform: wai wat?

asciilifeform: cat bitch_number_hayes.txt >> bitch_get_on_phone.wav >> /dev/phone

asciilifeform: phone does not presume voice.

asciilifeform: quite a few folks have wireless gizmos for fallback

asciilifeform: fallback comms for cut fiber?

asciilifeform: why would someone with a computer use a phone << dial-up from phonebooth in $turdworldshithole ?

asciilifeform: closed firmware though. but they take 'hayes modem' commands and present a pcm device for voice.

asciilifeform: chicom dongles, about $10 in qty. 1

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: /dev/phone right here!

asciilifeform: full access and docs << strictly banned in usa (and possibly eu)

asciilifeform: on the moon, perhaps a piece of fine roquefort cheese exists.

asciilifeform: can exist, why not

asciilifeform: johntraveller: and own logic cell library, own synthesis toolchain.

asciilifeform: johntraveller: chinese kid with semiconductors plant.

asciilifeform: custom android mods << lol. snore.

asciilifeform: easy to charge from.

asciilifeform: streetlight, unlike sol, is a very concentrated source of light

asciilifeform: kinder, gentler option: streetlights

asciilifeform: they'll be retrofitted with mumetal shields, at ruinous public expense, i bet

asciilifeform: bringing the inevitable chaos

asciilifeform: at some point, some joker somewhere will build the one that latches onto and inductively charges from aerial mains cables

asciilifeform: can mitigate, to some extent, with a return-to-base and cell swap gambit

asciilifeform: then, 4-5 hrs. of charger.

asciilifeform: the typical flight time of the various extant machines is about half hour.

asciilifeform: chetty: rather than serious enemy

asciilifeform: chetty: afaik the 'fingerprint' pnohes are intended to keep the common pickpocket out of your cached logins, until you can send remote-zap command

asciilifeform: 'own tablet' - means what? own chipset, nothing from 'arm' ? own os, from zero?

asciilifeform: the kind which contain login creds

asciilifeform: but original thread was about the perils of pNohes

asciilifeform: mail server? sure.

asciilifeform: which box?

asciilifeform: he can also 'be you' to any moron who isn't asking for pgp sig, and impersonate, and summon gasenwagen, etc.

asciilifeform: not necessarily fatal, but quite unpleasant if that was your sole means of contact with somebody.

asciilifeform: even in the most elementary case, using none of these, pwner can lock you out of own mailbox

asciilifeform: e.g., fiat banks, www hosts, public utilities

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: esp. given all the idiot www gadgets that don't use pgp, and allow mail-based pw resets

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if mail is used correctly << consequences of hijacked mailbox are still ugly

asciilifeform: chetty: the only exception, really, is the 'pwned phone listens at all times' and 'pwned phone dumps www/mail logins to pwner'

asciilifeform: chetty: much of what folks object to re: phones happens on the tower end.

asciilifeform: china projects << gonna build iPnohes?

asciilifeform: !s luxor business center

asciilifeform: johntraveller: outside of the anglo world, there is (or at least, until recently, was) a bacchanalia of xenophiliac idiocy ('let's copy usa! they have cadillacs and we have trabant, they must be clever')

asciilifeform: cyprus, he wrote about, possibly elsewhere

asciilifeform: johntraveller: afaik his stepfather, usg diplomat, dragged him to several places around the empire

asciilifeform: that one.

asciilifeform: !s cuckolding

asciilifeform: i think mircea_popescu already did this essay

asciilifeform: other thing is, when reading his 'i'm a surrender monkey, usg cannot be killed' posts, must remember that he's a 'tenured sea cucumber' in the sense that he keeps a dependopotamus, it birthed children, and he knows he won't be making it out of the gravity pit.

asciilifeform: i'm still waiting to hear about someone other than mr mold, who did this

asciilifeform: along with 1000 other people

asciilifeform: i could've easily went there.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: afaik he did not copy, initially, but marched on with his pre-2009 turdcoin

asciilifeform: johntraveller: as i gather, he saw the quality of the 'followers' and went full perelman.

asciilifeform: johntraveller: the worst thing, arguably, that ever happened to mr mold, is the 'moldosphere'

asciilifeform: junkyard dog is doomed to eat what he can.

asciilifeform: mr mold is a junkyard dog, with all that it entails. did not grow up with classical education, no latin, no greek. me neither.

asciilifeform: bounce: tried it and 1000 things

asciilifeform: *blob

asciilifeform: although arguably a box with the blog driver may as well be a winblows box

asciilifeform: gentoo.

asciilifeform: (classic mistake, yes)

asciilifeform: yes.

asciilifeform: tried both the evil and the good one.

asciilifeform: bounce: nope.

asciilifeform: bounce: i'm stuck with this machine in the field, and it gets 1 fps or so when running solely using 'intel' card switched on (which works)

asciilifeform: bounce: line 108,109, 161 notable.

asciilifeform: bounce: http://pastebin.com/S6PzpMQ4 << blank screen.

asciilifeform: lol, if only

asciilifeform: bounce: nope. box with 'nvidia optimus' demented chipset, fed to screen through 'intel i915', that won't initialize.

asciilifeform burning in xorg hell

asciilifeform: 'shuddup and oil the compressor'

asciilifeform: 'but i didn't sign up to suck cok in the cellar for the whole battalion!'

asciilifeform: the age-old mistake of provocateurs - thinking their master's promises are to be kept ☟︎

asciilifeform: or is my dns cache still poisoned.

asciilifeform: pediwikia b0rk3d ?

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo is invited to write a ликбез ('likbez' - 'elimination of illiteracy) piece on the waterfall.

asciilifeform: how do stories like this usually end? that is, some idiot screams, all day, every day 'loophole! here's a loophole!'

asciilifeform: the end result of his work will be that the m16 trigger spring part is declared regulated by royal fiat

asciilifeform: imho the bugger's a usg agent provocateur.

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: how did you think usg would grab cheap coin that it could sell even cheaper? by praying?

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: waterfall needs water.

asciilifeform: or 'tiaras' here in this gedankenexperiment are cock rings ?

asciilifeform: they can spend the rest of the day making tiaras << aren't they already ?

asciilifeform: the proverbial roaches standing after the nukefest.

asciilifeform: in that sense, perhaps. but know that i left with the distinct impression that most of the folks standing for the final exam were masters of cribbing.

asciilifeform: not a factory of heroes by any measure, no.