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mircea_popescu: (ftr,
the "100bn neurons" figure IS MISTAKEN. yes at any point you slice a brain you find something like
that ; but neurons also die - yet
their death is not automatically in vain now is it!)
a111: Logged on 2016-01-26 17:20 ascii_butugychag: (there was a spiffy
talk at shmoo, which mentioned how nn used in image recognition usually imprints on what -
to a human - would be an entirely accidental cluster of pixels, and if you flip'em, it will recognize an obvious, e.g,. cat, as a refrigerator, etc)
mircea_popescu: which is why we could properly qualify
this complex as a memetic virus. it infects, and
the host can feel it's infected, but can't prevent
the infection.
mircea_popescu: it certainly is MADE
to be persuasive for
the sort of minds coming out of ivy league "colleges"
mircea_popescu: anyway, i suspect on
the face, "the difference between stupid 5k cell brains and smart 5k cell brains is in
the yottabytes
they looked at" is almost persuasive.
mircea_popescu: it's what "totalitarian" means, after all - everyone is
the enemy.
mircea_popescu: it was also said cca 1800s, it read like "si de-aceea
tot ce misca-n
tara asta, riul, ramul imi e prieten numai mie, iara
tie - dusman
ti-este."
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i recall
this being said here years ago aha.
mircea_popescu: anyway,
the fate of
the socialist empire in its eternal historical cyclicity is fascinating. so - nazis put everything on large
tanks ; and failed. but
then soviets put everything on a particular notion of industrialization (steel-per-capita industrialization, so
to speak) and... failed. so
the one socialist empire left standing is putting it all on "ai". and...
mircea_popescu: but it's why
the
two week war isn't done after
thirteen.
mircea_popescu: the funny
thing is
that
the approach is
trivially defeated in practice.
they're relying on a ~fixed~, unchanging enemy. which naivite in
the manner of 3yos and
their modelling of environment geometries was previously
touched upon.
mircea_popescu: the criterion is not "optimal efficiency", but "optimal efficiency in
the paradigm space".
mircea_popescu: "why would girl go
to all
thetrouble of pretending on facebook when she could just walk up
to every guy in sight and go "hey, wanna feel my
tits ?"
mircea_popescu: and
they expect
to do it by pouring lots of gb in very
trivial neural/expert systems.
mircea_popescu: it's in
the more general form "detection of edges".
they want
to identify cars, and go winning strategies, and people who don't like
them and everything else.
mircea_popescu: the applications
to eg banking are beyond lulzy. but
they're willing
to destroy
the currency (currency ? what currency ? dollars don't pay nothing, it's notes from hitler if you want anything done)
to
try and prop it up because outside of usg.ai
there's nothing
mircea_popescu: they will suffer
the same fate,
too, but until he is killed
the death convict still lives like any other.
mircea_popescu: basically,
the ~one hope of
the imperial
technologistic church of some sort of practical results is a peculiar form of ai.
they're doubling down on it exactly in
the manner usg doubled down on "alternative fuels".
mircea_popescu: the other expansion of
that is of course
the whole "mechanical fakenews detection"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform incidentally
that nonsense is only superficially related
to snowden. in practice it is an extension of
the "artificial intelligence" used in "spam detection", especially as
the doomed but desperate attempt at websites
to fight
the republican bots.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-24 17:00 gabriel_laddel:
to complete
the autodialer picture:
the latest way american corps
try
to do "IP protection" is
to only let you access data from one phone. Writing a program
to drive stylus + camera
that digs
through arbitrary apps and sucks all
the information out of
them using OCR would be a lot of fun
a111: Logged on 2016-12-22 17:58 asciilifeform: common lisp committee was hobbled by babelism, had
to stuff in
the redundant idiocies, and never got
to, say, actually developing streams properly (why
the fuck are we stuck with hacks like gray streams? and where is
the commonlisp with ~working~ mop ? etc)
gabriel_laddel_p: seems I didn't delete new key, but rather forgot
to change my nick
to gabriel_laddel_p
mircea_popescu: most resilient use of self-blown glass was because "it's
the only way
to get a proper seal"
gabriel_laddel: all
the pharmacy
techs right now are running
these "apps", which operate as a database interface
to all
the "copyright blah blah blah protected" pharama data
gabriel_laddel: to complete
the autodialer picture:
the latest way american corps
try
to do "IP protection" is
to only let you access data from one phone. Writing a program
to drive stylus + camera
that digs
through arbitrary apps and sucks all
the information out of
them using OCR would be a lot of fun
☟︎ gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform:
thus far, never. but it sounds like a fun
thing
to automate if no one has done it already
a111: Logged on 2016-12-24 16:40 gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: are
there glassblowing robots for custom labware yet?
gabriel_laddel: wasn't
there a scheme implementation dropped into
the logs a long
time ago?
gabriel_laddel: speaking of nuts, it appears I somehow managed
to delete my private key, registering a new one I suppose. And backing it up
this
time.
gabriel_laddel: I did sign an NDA, so I'm not going
to get into
the details of what exactly we were cooking. But yes, it was most certainly
toxic.
gabriel_laddel: Am not sure. Saw
the synth running with broken fume hood, a cracked window and gtfo.
gabriel_laddel: I left out
the key part of
that story -
they released
the fumes indoors, in a building
the offices
they were occupying.
gabriel_laddel: I don't know what it is with
the people here, but
they're all fucking idiots.
gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu: I was working for a startup a while ago - but
they released
toxic fumes into
the air without a fume hood, so I quit.
mircea_popescu is curious if
the forum will prefer gabriel_laddel parked in sv start-up over gabriel_laddel parked in park.
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: are
there glassblowing robots for custom labware yet?
☟︎ gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: I have
talentless
thiel fellows
trying
to lowball me at
the moment, but expect
that
they'll pay up soon enough.
gabriel_laddel: for some reason
this required a restart of
the application, which _should not be a
thing_ in cl.
gabriel_laddel: Something like
that - was hacking out
the gesture :control-meta-click in CLIM and was clicking around a lot with it bound
to COM-DELETE-FILE
mircea_popescu: devwork must be pretty hectic with all
this accidental deleting.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-24 00:23 asciilifeform: i dun even want
to picture how
the d00d lives.
gabriel_laddel: That being said, I'm
trying
to decrypt my OTP and "gpg: decryption failed: secret key not available".
mircea_popescu: (the above boolean function K is an evident extension of
the dericlet function ftr)
mircea_popescu: they more or less udnerstand
they're a formalisation of what
the more numerate philosophers call
the
theory of knowledge.
mircea_popescu: anyway, i'm entirely not up
to speed
to
this, but
there actually exists
this field in math, of "boolean function sets"
mircea_popescu: the padding pads
the message just as
the message pads
the padding.
mircea_popescu: more
than
that :
there can't be conceptual difference between number x and number y.
mircea_popescu: importantly -
there is no need for
the payload and
the padding
to be distinguishable.
mircea_popescu: can be constructed so
their values are known besides K0(x) =
true for K0(a) = 1 if a=x and 0 if a!=x.
mircea_popescu: but yes,
the statement is correct.
to restate : 1. padding is defined as a function F (x, y) with x, y and F ∈ N such
that 2. F is defined for all (x, y) pairs and
that 3. given any set of boolean functions Ki(x) along with
their values no Kj(y) can be constructed so
their values are known besides K0(y) =
true for K0(a) = 1 if a=y and 0 if a!=y and 4. given any set of boolean functions Ki(y) along with
their values no Kj(x)