asciilifeform: quoted for just this. someone asked 'how could they undo french revolution.' how do you undo a catabolic collapse?
asciilifeform: 'Astolphe de Custine was brought up for a time by a faithful servant, living in penury with her in the only room of the Custine home that had not been looted and sealed off by Jacobin zealots and thieves.'☟︎
asciilifeform: just think, kurchatov or sakharov, could have sat in an american jail
asciilifeform: 'It shall be unlawful, except as provided in section 2121 of this title, for any person, inside or outside of the United States, to knowingly participate in the development of, manufacture, produce, transfer, acquire, receive, possess, import, export, or use, or possess and threaten to use, any atomic weapon.'
asciilifeform: that is, there are actually laws on the books which specifically say 'anyone, anywhere, whether he even knows we exist'
asciilifeform: citizens - yes. i was thinking of other
asciilifeform: i can remember a few - the one with the flag-less submarines, and the one forbidding any biped on planet 3 from working on nukes without u.s. blessing
asciilifeform would love to read a collection of all the u.s. federal laws that claim extraterritoriality.
asciilifeform: !s in the game of chess you must never
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: the great fork war is inevitable. and we know what is on their side of the line. but what is on the other? the miners' mystery forks? our gadget, that doesn't even load the blockchain?
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: bip-0065 << classic 'relevance farming.' the phoundation will take any excuse to add cruft to the gizmo. in their fantasy, folks will use it, and those who have resisted their turds will be forced to merge in.☟︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: and the remaining lesson, possibly, is that we are still without a general-purpose btc-powered hoster.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: one could also hypothesize again about 'married men' and who can or cannot afford to take what risk, etc.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if there's a psychiatric lesson here, it is that resisting crud is not necessarily from cleverness, but could also be on account of being a goat herder in afghanistan and what even is all this recycled food.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: can't really argue that 'no we won't even talk' was a correct answer. but i do understand how a n00b might associate bitcoin as-a-concept with the derps and sp4mz0rs.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: moving a functioning usd-fueled business to btc - other matter. especially if you're sensitive about not wishing to fatten vultures.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: fact is, i and the other jugglers - find ways to hoover up enough usd to pay the usd-eaters in.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i weigh less than an isp/hoster/restaurant/etc. yes.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: death is a hard boundary for experiments. once dead, no 'let's try this differently'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: but brings back to the fact that usaschwitz is a thing. if i presently had to rely on btc for anything life-sustaining, i'd be quite dead.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: my reaction just now was 'why won't they show up and at least talk' but then realized that this may be the flip side of the medal, so to speak, of the same conservative thinking that ultimately made n.f.s. co. even interesting in the first place (they've resisted every known variety of crud)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: that is still not how i read that one. it was more of a 'what is this martian trinary computer, where can i plug it in? with what sauce can i eat it'. and iirc that was your own initial reaction in '11.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: care to draw a simple picture of what you'd do in their place ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: no one was asked to care, but trying to explain here that folks are sizzling in an electric chair not necessarily of their own making, rather than simple death through individual folly
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this death is a collective one. or, go try to tell the nearly free speech folks how to get their upstream isp to take btc, and where to get spare disks and pizza for it, and in such a way that it doesn't immediately end up in the waterfall, etc.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: lol. why the emotion. the article told the sad truth: 'We have nothing to spend bitcoins on...'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: mango happily pays. that's what digestion is all about.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the sad part is, they have a point. they can't eat it.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if you have some notion of how to transmute that into a solution to yesterday's conundrum - i'm all ears.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: what i meant was, that it offers no useful mechanisms for anything other than, well, making ordinary backups for own use.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: tarsnap isn't really a public access gizmo
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i learned of them when looked for a hoster that specializes in censor resistance (through traditional legal-wrangling, rather than fancy tech. it was another age.)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i don't know them alive, no. but it is entirely possible that they could be lured. it's a small family op, afaik.
