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ThickAsThieves: hell i'm too young and too old for this
MisterE: oh I thought BTCKing was done in
diametric: Maybe so, I vaguely remember at the time of it happening a lot of organization changes took place but its been a while now.
diametric: as of august 2012 if I remember correctly
pankkake: funny stuff, I was reading /r/thewalkingdead when they switched on the thing
cazalla: i wrote this song in 94'
mircea_popescu: i wonder if this nonsense will become a trend.
ThickAsThieves: i'm surprised it took this long really
ThickAsThieves: but i suspect the powers that be will pummel him into mediocrity
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: recently i was reading some vintage dan mocsny (circa '91) and spotted szabo in the thread...
ThickAsThieves: i enjoyed the garble, was a nice surprise reading logs on tablet
MisterE: I've always been an IMer so prefer it
mircea_popescu: antephialtic well your friend won't irc and i'm not about to argue with anyone on twitter, so i guess that's that.
mircea_popescu: i dunno what i'll do tomorro morning.
mircea_popescu: what i dislike is a bunch of fucktards going around with money that isn't theirs, muddying things up.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i'll patronize science just fine.
asciilifeform: 'The basic problem is that the robber-barons of Silicon Valley, unlike their Victorian forebears, do not realize that, if they want all this science, they will actually have to pay for it - themselves. Instead, they look at their tax forms and think: I gave at the office. But they didn't. They gave to scientocracy. Now, they need to figure out how to patronize science - or there will be no science. Just scient ☟︎
MisterE: I wish when government funded that kind of research the first priority was not always to weaponize it if possible
Duffer1: that's all i got..
MisterE: ok I'll concede arpanet :)
antephialtic: his thoughts: "Now, whilst some might welcome the reduction in the state caused by a loss of taxation, the state is THE key economic driver of innovation, prosperity and social mobility. The laissez faire economic system is an extreme mindset of some of the more ardent supporters of Freidmanism and the Chicago School. There is no basis for assuming a beneficial society can be created without the state and in all likelihood i
antephialtic: I'm sure this will be quite entertaining to you as well: http://blog.gardeviance.org/2014/03/how-to-fix-bitcoin.html
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2012/the-politics-of-bitcoin/ that too i guess
pankkake: antephialtic: that's why I said last two paragraphs ;)
asciilifeform: i'm genuinely curious if any of the 'alt workfunction' folks are going for something other than 'equality!11'
antephialtic: pankkake: I think that is wishful thinking
antephialtic: mp: I wasn't reasing trilema in 2012 :)
pankkake: yeah, I've seen that in people praising Bernankoin without getting it
asciilifeform: if you're willing to sign under 'i wish victory to botnet artists but not semiconductor makers', you can work with that.
antephialtic: and to that I say, that's just how the world works
antephialtic: but I think that is inevitable, and if it is going to happen, I'd rather end up at the top instead of getting crushed in the transition
antephialtic: I don't think cryptocoins will make the world any more egalitarian. Probably less so, as their widespread use would deny the state a lot of tax revenue
asciilifeform: didn't i post a perfectly usable counter-example?
antephialtic: I think forking the chain is interesting, would give a lot of incentive for miners and users to switch if the tech was actually better
asciilifeform: i thought every alt was a 'hostile fork' ?
mircea_popescu: i wouldn't go as far as rms.
mircea_popescu: antephialtic most neckbeards make excellent worhorses. doesn't mean anyone would want them i nthe house.
antephialtic: ah, I have to admit I enjoy his opinions on cryptography related matters.
mike_c: i think he is just forgetting. this certainly sounds like him :) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=37923;sa=showPosts
ThickAsThieves: well, so I got on my soapbox before saying fuck you, oh well
artifexd: As it is not provably you, I can only accept your word and sit back down, corrected and humble.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves i think the traditional way to do it is making this post : https://bitcointa.lk/threads/ipvo-multiple-exchanges-neo-bee-lmb-holdings.167762/page-226#post-5730195
mircea_popescu: artifexd i dun think so.
asciilifeform: mike_c: i'm here by accident, really.
artifexd: I was shocked to find posts by you. Granted, they were a few years ago. But still...
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i never posted either.
asciilifeform: curious - am i the only one here who never posted to btct ?
ThickAsThieves: Hey I'm gonna ban myself from the forum
BingoBoingo: I really don't see the point of cross posting to the Thermos forum, if the aim is killing the pretense of its relevance
mike_c: it's like shit with a sprinkling of honey. i would bitbet this but it's not definable.
mike_c: 50 people posting exclusively on a forum could draw traffic, but i don't believe it works when the content is forwarded to the competition.
mircea_popescu: i personally don't think there's any value in the forum format, but hey.
mircea_popescu: honestly i don't see why .lk can't be used for exactly this purpose.
nubbins`: anyway, membership in the forum is by invite only, and i think being rude gets you banned or something
nubbins`: i was thinking in terms of "u wot m8"
mircea_popescu: anyway, i had a forum on the old polimedia domain, same principle, also pretty dead.
mircea_popescu: nubbins` a wot i mean.
kakobrekla: i guess you all will be wearing shoelacesless shoes by t he conference.
mircea_popescu: i guess we're going to tune in to .lk for further mpoe-pr posts.
mike_c: mircea_popescu: was that shorthand for "that's what i'm doing with .lk"? i don't think that works, because the high quality content you influence to go to .lk also ends up in their forum. it's not competition.
antephialtic: no. I want smart/motivated individuals to be able to post right away
antephialtic: I'd rather have a forum for the 20% of competent people using bitcoin, than a wasteland for those unwilling or uncapable of learning
cazalla: i dunno antephialtic, that seems a reasonable question to me for someone new to bitcoin
asciilifeform: at one point, i worked on a 'destupidator' (actual working title) - sort of like a 'captcha', but based on the 'raven matrix' iq test.
asciilifeform: this actually reminds me of something fairly foolish that i almost did
antephialtic: yes, I agree. Forum should have an entrance exam
mike_c: i think it is admirable to try to provide a path out of there through mpoe-pr, but if they don't want it..
mircea_popescu: mike_c i am aware. won't last very long really.
mircea_popescu: i guess they are anyway
kakobrekla: i doubt anyone who should be reading is reading .lk
pankkake: I'd like to know who banned crumbs and kakobrekla too
mircea_popescu: i put stuff from the forum in here, read it destupidified in log
moiety: i cant even go back to see that now mircea_popescu lol
nubbins`: kakobrekla i much prefer it this way, don't fix it
nubbins`: 00:08:39asciilifeform:thinking modern of pc bounce: was i
moiety: lolol mircea_popescu business cat, Yorkshire version // also http://i.imgur.com/575U3WI.gif
kakobrekla: i wouldnt say a fan
mircea_popescu: i suppose all of central asia is feudal
Mats_cd03: i guess you could say afghanistan and somalia were vaguely functioning feudal systems in the last few decade
bounce: well I s'pose that gave you a bit of a headstart "researching" the bitcoin zoo
mircea_popescu: i mean... guys like iancu jianu. ex road robber, caught, tried, sentenced to hang, saved by ancient rule that noble virginz may save a convicted felon by marrying him
mircea_popescu: bounce i have no idea. the entire national pantheon is basically neobee like scammors. ie, various rebels promising independence from x or y or z
mike_c: i am not defending his retarded veiwpoint though. "it's ok because neo&bee ran ads".
mike_c: i don't think they got that far in penetrating the consumer consciousness.
mircea_popescu: i guess we'll actually be deriving some benefit from the ineptly handled neobee shareholder piggybank,
Jason: Mats_cd03: i came to -assets to share my story of being randomly banned with no explanation and being completely denied support. had my business of been in full swing with square, it would be a rather large problem.
mircea_popescu: i wonder to what degree things actually work that way.
Namworld: I probably spew nonsense regularly too anyway. I just let it be unless I feel like debating the topic.
Namworld: I stopped questioning why people say certain things long ago.
mircea_popescu: "Even if Neo ends up failing and Cyprus central bankers win this battle, they've managed to change the world forever. The Bitcoin awareness in Cyprus will not go away even if Neo fails and that counts for something. I know I was part of that as an investor and helped build that to some extent. On the other hand MPEx will go down in history as the clown who badmouthed the competition and riding some donkey in Egypt."
mircea_popescu: person 1 : "I personally don't believe that Neo&Bee is a scam, but very well said. Just becuase there is an easier way to steal money that the scammers passed up doesn't mean it's not a scam."
Jason: mircea_popescu: i do, but i can't take it online yet
Mats_cd03: (i'm pretty baked and wildly speculating here)
Mats_cd03: buying things from the paranoid, i imagine
Jason: mircea_popescu: doesn't work since i'm banned :-P
Jason: ThickAsThieves: guess i'll have to stick to bitcoin
ThickAsThieves: i'm good at this
ThickAsThieves: maybe now i can for for Homeland Security
Jason: ThickAsThieves: that's what i'm trying to do. they won't tell me what i did for 'security reasons' :-p.
Jason: ThickAsThieves: did /nothing/ even questionable. tbh, i mainly used it for quick transfers between my bank accounts :P