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diana_coman: in other words, mircea_popescu, it is "accessible" and "easy
to get
things going" - in all
the wrong directions, of course, but nobody mentioned anything about direction now, did
they
mircea_popescu: it's very bad not because of
the computer, which nobody fucking cares, but because it stupids your head.
mircea_popescu: phf yes of course it's not good or bad, "all
turing machines are equivalent let's malbolge nao"
diana_coman: Framedragger, it's not
the syntax, it's
the whole "approach";
though if you find *that* acceptable, I guess you'll find planeshift code just as acceptable with all its 20-level dependency hell, mix-and-match mess of concepts (hey, what IS a concept anyway and what do you mean
there is something other
than interface anyway)
mircea_popescu: and
they honestly imagine
THAT is what people use emacs for, also.
phf: Framedragger: i'm not saying it's good or bad, my original point stands
though ~suggesting it
to republic is setting yourself up for abuse~ and you can know why ahead of
time
mircea_popescu: at some point someone recounted me an anecdote about
the indian minded programmers using like a dozen empty for loops in lieu of sleep ; and
then when one was hired
to optimize
the code he did a nested for loop,
the inner being one of
the previous and
the outer equal
to
their count.
mircea_popescu: re you know it you reimplemented openssh in blockchain
technology).
mircea_popescu: i suppose he has a point - and if you're
trying
to make one of
those clock walls, you'll just you know, paste down
the code
three or five or n
times with various offsets on
the
TimeSpan
timespan = DateTime.Now.TimeOfDay; plus should one of
the clocks have
to go backwards you'll paste
the code once more but put a minus somewhere (which maintenance will
take off because automated bounds checking indicated
they should - and befo
phf: you ~script~ it in C#, by knowing just
the right combination of widgets available out of a large collection of widget classes.
phf: the
thing is promistronic
to
the max
phf: suggesting unity
to republic is setting yourself up for abuse.
Framedragger unfortunately has
to run, which has
the side effect of delaying wrath inflicted by mp
Framedragger: tell me
that at least it's not
the syntax
that you hate.
mircea_popescu: apologies
to
the participants, but
this fucking belongs in here.
THIS IS NOT CODE.
mircea_popescu: Quaternion.Euler(0f, 0f,
time.Second * -secondsToDegrees);
mircea_popescu: Quaternion.Euler(0f, 0f,
time.Minute * -minutesToDegrees);
mircea_popescu: Quaternion.Euler(0f, 0f,
time.Hour * -hoursToDegrees);
Framedragger: what don't you like about
this bunch of stuff you posted? :)
mircea_popescu: every method can in principle be *fast* from a certain perspective, horseback
travel is blazing cca 1100. but for making a clock appled my
time budget does not exceed a quarter hour nor am i willing
to do much more
than A COUPLA LINES!
Framedragger: (not really complex,
tho. but you get moving *fast*)
mircea_popescu: you can't EVEN GET IT RUNNING
today. forget build anything.
Framedragger: you can build complex shit fast
there.
that's a
thing.
mircea_popescu: did you just say "it doesn't work but it's
the usg.offer for
the space and
therefore it must be respected" ?
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: no repl but it's very easy
to get
things going in unity.
though i found it
to be clunky in
the sense of not being able
to contain simple project in one's head, as you have
to look at parameters around
the IDE/project as well as source code (parts of which are 'attached'
to objects). but it's very usable.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-27 17:11 asciilifeform:
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-27#1591017 << since
theme of
the day appears
to be sidechanneling, commonlisptrons lacking a separate cons pool for crypto ops, noncacheability hints, etc. are ripe for
the
treatment
mircea_popescu: and plox do not
tell me "i just assumed it does because it is
the usg.this-thing and i automatically assume
the usg.this-thing in all cases and for all
things offers".)
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes pray
tell why do you recommed unity in favour of eulora ? eulora bots exist as a matter of fact, with people hacking on
them and repl-ing
the results after a 10 minute compile. what equivalent
to
this does unity offer ?
☟︎ a111: Logged on 2016-12-27 16:39 phf:
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-27#1590876 << i suspect
that ironclad is still one of
the better platforms
to audit and integrate into own ecosystem. short of waiting for p what other options do you have? ffi
to openssl?
the code is readable, in
the past year munchkins have been adding various algos
to it, so you know what
to cut, but also gives you a nice blueprint of how
to extend etc.
mircea_popescu: fancy we're at
the sad stage of decay where i am going
to use a vague memory of another as
to something i myself said as a reference point.
a111: Logged on 2014-12-10 00:51 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu had an article (or perhaps a
thread here? but can't seem
to find it...) about an archetypical u.s. expat. fellow keeps a pub somewhere in
thailand, or cambodia, etc.
the locals - drink for free. he fancies
that if he begins
to run out of dough, he can always start charging. but somehow in
the back of his head he knows what will happen
to his sorry arse if he were
to do so.
phf:
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-27#1590876 << i suspect
that ironclad is still one of
the better platforms
to audit and integrate into own ecosystem. short of waiting for p what other options do you have? ffi
to openssl?
the code is readable, in
the past year munchkins have been adding various algos
to it, so you know what
to cut, but also gives you a nice blueprint of how
to extend etc.
☝︎☟︎☟︎ mircea_popescu: asciilifeform do you happen
to have link
to original discussion of older us male who goes
to orcland under delusion of being roman army veteran, gets used as cattle by locals ?
Framedragger: ah, i see kk re. ctypes vs
the older interface..
a111: Logged on 2016-12-27 15:20 Framedragger: (branch prediction side channels etc, dunno how feasible in
the context of application using pycrypto..)
phf: just
to clarify it doesn't use ctypes, it's using
the old
https://docs.python.org/2/extending/extending.html api. which i suspect is faster, since you're constructing python objects immediately, rather
than across
the ffi boundry
the way ctypes/CFFI would have
to naturally do it
Framedragger: phf: given
this, would you even say
that what pycrypto does is evil, i wonder.. i mean if it uses ctypes ~properly
Framedragger: BingoBoingo: it's a single php file, relatively elegant i'd say.
the logic is in redirect() (line 212 on v1.07 of plugin) if you want
to verify lack of satan. seems ~relatively harmless but i no wp plugin masta
Framedragger: not saying
that it's amazing or anything, wp eww
a111: Logged on 2016-12-27 15:19 asciilifeform: why
the livingfuck is
there even c in 'pycrypto'..?!
phf:
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-27#1590973 << hah, pycrypto is ~all~ c. python has
this ffi mechanism, where import can work on an .so and
there are standard hooks for registering/providing python object equivalents from your c code. in
this case i don't
think
there's a single python line in pycrypto at all
☝︎ Framedragger: i don't know if redirection plugin does
that. if you mean
that a plugin would add a new line
to htaccess
then yeah
that's retarded. don't
think
that's how it works
BingoBoingo: Plugins
that demand access
to htaccess are a no-no
mircea_popescu: hm pretty sure
there must be an option for redirects somewhere.
BingoBoingo: Redirect never
took, post restored with
text in <blockquote>
tags
mircea_popescu: (and no,
the above
truth isn't "about primes" anymore
than
the golden section is "about a4 paper".)
mircea_popescu: at least in my head
this is
the deep reason alf's hatred of arithmetic
transfgorms makes sense
to me.
mircea_popescu: incidentally,
there must also be a "timing" attack
that relies not on
time but on properties of integers. and no i don't mean birthday attack - if your hashing is an arithmetic process
then necessarily
the fundamental fact
that "primes count is log integers count" in some sort of restatement is going
to bite you somewhere.
mircea_popescu: OF COURSE
there's going
to be c code in python, what, are you racist ?
mircea_popescu: nobody fucking wants
to REPLACE anything.
they're just building an open society where everything can live side by side blind
to any considerations of identity or heritage.
Framedragger: aha, but you assume
that python
timers are anything but inaccurate :p (but yesyes..)
Framedragger: (branch prediction side channels etc, dunno how feasible in
the context of application using pycrypto..)
☟︎ Framedragger: there are some reasons for it i suppose? avoid
timing side channels etc
mircea_popescu: why does "Apparently
this issue is fixed on pycrypto's development branch with commit 8dbe0dc3eea5c689d4f76b37b93fe216cf1f00d4, but
this change can't be applied directly
to
the latest pycrypto release
tarball;
too much has changed." not read "we should have fucking written it all in v last year" is anyone's guess.
mircea_popescu: when in
the blink of an eye you suddenly know it's fucked
mircea_popescu: currently,
trilema month stands at 32 days, and
there's 11.40 of
them / year
mircea_popescu: anyway, i
think it's poetic, like a month
that keeps increasing in day count as i add more pictures. a sort of bizarre astronomy of a planet
that slowly distances itself from
the sun
thereby decelerating and
thereby more and more earth days are needed
to complete its monthly cycle.
mircea_popescu: works on
the basis of decimal(hash(date string)) mod banner count.
mircea_popescu: speaking of which, i've had
trilema changed so
that it publishes a "random" header each day out of my apparently extensive collection of 32! different ones.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes which one is a "modal" ? "carousel" is
that stupid shit when pics keep scrolling like a 2.0 version of <marquee> right
mircea_popescu: o wow look at
this, etymolone.com has it! "Rare 17c., revived from late 18c. in sense "to strive (alongside another) for
the attainment of something" and regarded early 19c. in Britain as a Scottish or American word. Market sense is from 1840s (perhaps a back-formation from competition); athletics sense attested by 1857." is exactly correct for once.
mircea_popescu: hence why it's even fucking called "competition", from latin for "to strive
together", competere. same com as in commune.
mircea_popescu: fall behind
them" version of mutual driving would historically be what competition meant.
this mutual-inhibition style of competition where "we all
try kissing girls when we're 7,
then
those who don't manage having been outcompeted by
those who did manage retire
to kiss playstations" is novel.
mircea_popescu: i suppose in a forgotten sense
this is actually what "competing" means ; walk is "leg competitive" in
the sense
that
the movement of one drags/forces/impels
the movement of
the other ;
tissue growth is competitive in
the sense
that conjunctive growth drives medular growth and medular growth drives conjunctive growth ;
the very chinese (these days) "barracks area B planted roses, can we from barracks area C allow ourselves
to
mircea_popescu: hardly competing. just because item b depending on item a for part of its job may end up having
to implement a doesn't mean b competes with a.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-27 01:44 mircea_popescu: Framedragger you're going
towards
the republican dns / unified name registry
thing