asciilifeform: it happened as the very complex roman religions were brought closer to the understanding of teh plebs << goldsmith's 'great u-turn' had a superb if very compact intro to this process: http://www.edwardgoldsmith.org/28
asciilifeform: cazalla: aha. guessed that some sort of proprietary bookmark crud was involved.
asciilifeform: cazalla: i must confess that it remains mostly unknown to me.
asciilifeform: cazalla: favourited the qntra article << how does that work ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i've been trying to pinpoint the pathology for a while now. this so far is the best hypothesis i know.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i suspect precisely this, almost to a word, is a formative experience for every boy with half a brain. sorta like if adult tells boy that sky is same colour as grass
asciilifeform: i bet that modern folks will discover, to some surprise, how many were subscribed to the 'last bullet health & pension insurance co.'
asciilifeform: aha. will keep going until, well, done.
asciilifeform: the hunchback will straighten in his grave.
asciilifeform: or was that simply re: collapse? in which case, aye
asciilifeform: would generally be beneficial and are in any case unavoidable << wai wat ?
asciilifeform: i have yet to encounter a 'mousetrap' more effective than 'lesswrong' circa 2009 or so - that is, a mechanism for wasting the time of intelligent folks. has to be seen to be believed, really.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 5-10k a month sort of affair5-10k a month sort of affair << of maths grad students, though. not homo redditicus. although, to be fair, this is from my personal observations of 5 yrs. or so vintage.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: to see 'what' dance, visit their forum, their wiki, put on gas mask. to see how many - ask intel dept. i have not counted them.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: spam filter - and, aha, bayes lived long ago, likewise. mr y did not invent the moving parts. just stuck the pig head on the pole and convinced various folks to dance.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ask around. i know, it's difficult to believe. but the man (yes, he was an actual hassid, afaik he was expelled from their number) is a 'natural hitler' or however it is called these days.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: yes him personally. he organized a perverse cult around bayes's theorem, and hypnotized a thousand reasonably-intelligent folks (mathematical, physical, etc. students)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: what's the connection << organized abuse of statistical concepts for satanic purposes☟︎
asciilifeform: whether or not 'lizard hitlers' exist in the flesh, they certainly have an analogue in the hierarchy of mega-fallacies (that is, devices for leading otherwise intelligent people to do something damnably idiotic)
asciilifeform: i tentatively buy moldbug's argument that this is a specifically christian atavism (the hindus, for instance, make no such exception, and cheerfully proclaim that one is quite likely to 'reincarnate' as a bacterium)
asciilifeform: and the rawlsian lottery is presumed to include only them
asciilifeform: as for why they don't include gut bacterium, while it seems like a logical implication - the core idiocy is something once called 'inner light doctrine', where 'humans' (as defined situationally, by the sc4mz0r, but generally rolling up all shaved apes) are 'special'
asciilifeform: or 'include dead baby in life expectancy stats because what if you'd keeled over as a baby'
asciilifeform: that is, 'slavery is bad mmkay because what if you were a slave'
asciilifeform: incidentally, 'rawlsian veil', as i later found out, happens to be one of the dark elephants on which the entire satanic edifice of 'enlightenment' stands
asciilifeform: applying statistical (or otherwise) counterfactuals to an actual reality is a mistake of the same elementary scope as division by zero, or direct conversion of metres to grams - but for some reason which entirely escapes me, this is not obvious to people
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu with regard to the 'abuse of statistical devices' outlined in note iii, the accomplished master of the art is a fellow named yudkowsky (search #b-a log). he isn't an idiot, bastard knows exactly what he's doing, and his cult is a veritable vacuum trap for thinking folks☟︎
asciilifeform always wondered, in that spirit, if there exist folks with 'useful' tattoos, e.g., one that turns you into a 'human slide rule'
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu i was once astonished to learn that the 'one is overwhelmingly likely to be a gut bacterium' argument outlined in note iii of your article is not taught to modern children as a fallacy, but as a moral (!) imperative, called 'rawlsian veil of ignorance.'
asciilifeform: come to think of it, is there anything on that list that isn't either entirely inconsequential -or- a total atrocity ?
asciilifeform: 'hardfork wishlist' - 'Improved signature types to allow for partial malleability of outputs. (e.g. make it easier to add a fee onto someone else's transaction, or to take fees from a transaction without outputs set aside for that purpose)' << mega-lol!
asciilifeform: at the physical scale seen in the picture - a mistake from not knowing wtf one is doing
asciilifeform: which is the solder equivalent of a child's ink blot
asciilifeform: maybe you need to bridge two pins together with a diode << someone did not grasp 'solder bridge.'
asciilifeform: finger that fell off in the poker tournament << leprosy ?
