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asciilifeform: it only started to work once i fed it a name, addr, and cc.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform but i mean isn't the point of this whole wu business that you just walk into an office and send someone a few benjies ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it's a http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-08#1859416 ☝︎
asciilifeform: sending a 1shot never worked , from here
asciilifeform: i'm looking at my notes, and seems like erry wu i ever sent ( and i sent a good coupla dozen ) took 2 shots (per new addressee)
a111: Logged on 2018-09-01 00:38 mod6: mircea_popescu does have a point re 'freedom of navigation' tho. but ya, if it doesn't matter to BingoBoingo, I'm game.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo if found it's good to have from a purely http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-01#1846382 exercise ; but anyway, tis getting settled. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform they disinvented cheques because copier is a thing and well... even in the 70s us it was quite iffy.
BingoBoingo: Except instead of .com it's a storefront/kiosko
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo oh like a "we're too poor to sell tickets/collect bills, so use this mob-like scam ticketfuckery.com" sorta thing ?
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: wtf would be the point of a wu spampal that only worx ~in~ 1 place
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: There's a couple local in uruguay services, will look into it
asciilifeform: dollars to doughnuts there's a clone that lives in cr and uy ( and not usa )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it's a us thing. and used 99+% by mexicans et al to send moolah to home goatfuck village
mircea_popescu: but i mean... you understand how little sense this makes, neither of this has anything to do... oh, cuz wu is a us thing.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: as i said, i sent'em for 6mo in a row with 0 eggog afterwards
asciilifeform: hanbot: one time i caught a wu monkey and squeezed an answer from it, 'corp office forbidden by dhs to say why not worked'
hanbot: mircea_popescu i think if you ask why, a terrorist is you.
mircea_popescu: if this ends up settled by the mailing of a large quantity of alfajores... keks
hanbot: mircea_popescu i'm not even sure, their banhammer is like a pile of weird noodles.
hanbot: BingoBoingo: I went to send your WU, but either someone I traded with back in the days of http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-24#1817953 that is based in Peru did Something Bad(tm), or else I dunno, your gf? In any case they're doing this entire song & dance about how "there's an alert" and "i gotta talk to a lawyer to justify...it's not clear what or why or to whom", entirely contentless fluff. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: according to her, that's a boy just like you!
nicoleci: what a gem.
asciilifeform: meanwhile in upstack lulz: asciilifeform discovered that a good % of prb returns NOTHING to getaddr command. how the fuck do these people connect to peers ? ( i'ma guess some gavintronic-over-https curated nonsense )
a111: Logged on 2018-10-12 19:27 BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> no moar cows in uruguay ? << AH, apparently selling all the cows to china for a while was a problem but they are catching up with the fucking.
asciilifeform: lol for a sec i almost believed
mircea_popescu: I WAS MAKING A SARCASTIC REMARK
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> no moar cows in uruguay ? << AH, apparently selling all the cows to china for a while was a problem but they are catching up with the fucking. ☟︎
asciilifeform: there was a 'hamplanet' thing
mircea_popescu: "manspreading" is a thing, femfatting is not a thing, rite rite.
BingoBoingo: This, in a country where milk was recently imported from Brasil and Spain
mircea_popescu: a ok...
nicoleci: mod6, thanks, you too! lol you definitely surprised me, i thought i was dreaming of the channel for a second
asciilifeform: mod6: it's a nickel/min, not exactly megabux
mod6: <+asciilifeform> mod6 what do you think << yeah! Sounds good. I put together a thing, lemme dig it out...
mircea_popescu: anyway, the idea is mostly to permit "journa" tards get a documentation point for their shitty markov chain processes of wordsalading ; and i suppose for the internet cucks to wank at.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: sounds a++
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform was there a fixed greeting ? "Hello you have reached The Bitcoin Foundation, how may I help you ?"
asciilifeform: nicoleci: i recommend to learn a bit re tbf and what it is, cuz folx will eventually start asking..
nicoleci: asciilifeform, no worries! i think their was a connection issue because i could barely understand you but mod6 was clear
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo has this a+++ chix
mircea_popescu: doing noting over time == someone will put a collar on you and you'll dance for pennies.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> and ben_vulpes was around for months ?! << iirc a month-ish, something something wedding
mircea_popescu: lotta this "i've been sitting here doing nothing for a long time, therefore i matter" nation of africa bs.
BingoBoingo: But yes, lots of butthurt about what the fellow in question was doing making money and yet... He's their best chance to avoid a coup
mircea_popescu: “A un partido de 182 años no le interesan señores oportunistas que vengan a instalarse." << this "anos" thing is such a big thing in southamerica, too.
mircea_popescu: we need a snippet of dennis hopper going "MAKE SOME FUCKING MONEY!!!" search and distroy bit
mircea_popescu: "Molesto, Abdala sostuvo que prefiere que no se presente. “No puede caer un millonario en paracaídas a decir que va a ser precandidato”, dijo. " <<< ahjahaha AND WHY THE FUCK NOT ?
asciilifeform: it's a 2edged blade, as it would be a great temptation to 'light client' idjits to parasitize on trb. but would make for easy litmus.
asciilifeform: btw trb could in principle be made entirely distinguishable, if we were to permit asking for a ~tx~ in 'inv' command ( currently prohibited , because prb nuked indexing , but could be brought into trb with no ill effect aside from some cpu cost )
asciilifeform: i strongly suspect that a very large % of the current set of 'nodes' won't pass.
asciilifeform: the 1 'litmus test' i was able to think of , is the 'i pick a block hash and you gimme the block in <1s' algo. ☟︎
asciilifeform: ( granted such a survey won't distinguish 'pseudos' or outright shams, the only item that can do it is an actual noad )
asciilifeform: manifest is a piece of handy docs, not a straightjacket, lol
mircea_popescu: press == taking the tree of patches and building a line among them
mircea_popescu: diana_coman a single line ~in the press~. but a tree ~in existence~.
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-12#1860960 -> hm, doesn't the manifest impose a single line rather than a tree? ☝︎
mircea_popescu: (one perfectly legitimate way to build-towards-gossipd is to make the following item standard : every bot, upon receiving some registration order from anyone in owner's wot, will then respond to "any messages for me ?" with a "since yo ulast asked, here's all the loglines i have seen which highlighted your name".
asciilifeform: further in pipeline, will be a thing that actually asks'em for a randomly-picked block, and sees if it keccaks to what i've got.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: btw i think you'll like this, by default thing does opposite of the heathen one, doesn't display prb nodes individually, but simply as a collective 'sad people' stat # .
asciilifeform: definitely calls for a text bot
mircea_popescu: ideally use same bot. have a buncha functions in it.
asciilifeform: initial draft is a plain phuctor-like www display tho
mircea_popescu: were you making a bot or already had a bot ?
asciilifeform: idea being a republican (and non-idiotic) replacement for the https://bitnodes.earn.com/nodes/?q=/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/ item
asciilifeform: speaking of trb, i dusted off an old conveyor item, phuctor-like www proggy that maps out noadez ( you give it ips, and it connects to'em, then issues 'version' and 'getaddr', and builds a graph )
mircea_popescu: if you ever design a car, i bet it'll come with direct command ignition clicker.
mircea_popescu: so like a handrolled cache.
asciilifeform: i'd rather have addressable sram , and explicit movement to/from a slower/cheaper brick
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-12#1860859 <<< ahaha this was a hystorical histerical moment! ☝︎
asciilifeform: it has a legit, sorta, use -- long loops ( where branch 'likely', given as it is taken for all but final shot ) but still ugh
asciilifeform: btw ave1 , if you're gonna keep the 'minimum 4 bytes of input', it oughta be a precondition to the func.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-12 12:49 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-12#1860789 << imho a ~constant time~ crc32 would be useful, and can be made from ave1's with very small effort, but i'ma leave it as exercise for him ( simply dispose of the if's )
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-12#1860808 << not a bad idea actually. ☝︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it behaves moar like a (very slowly moving) tape, tho, rather than memory
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: sorta why i didn't even want a /dev/random, recall
mircea_popescu: pandora also warned. what's in a warning.
mircea_popescu: honestly, just buy 2mn dice, put them all in a large bag hoisted to a pole and let it drop.
a111: Logged on 2014-08-27 02:03 asciilifeform: bats_cd03: 'random' means one thing if you're running 'monte carlo' sims (digits of 'pi' work beautifully, as does 'A Million Random Digits with 100,000 Normal Deviates' (rand corp, 1955. book.))
asciilifeform: in related lulz, and iirc we had a thread ( tho can't seem to unearth it ), urandom is sufficiently sad that when asciilifeform was running genetic algos / monte carlo / etc. crapolade , yrs ago, from it... would regularly fail to converge ☟︎
mircea_popescu: gave me a start.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: the https://archive.is/clOSG link is a null page
asciilifeform: ( they also make a few high-end DACs, etc., but this prolly would not keep'em alive by itself )
a111: Logged on 2016-11-30 23:04 asciilifeform: 'As more people with less commitment to quality and much less attention to detail got involved in writing it, its educational value diminished, too. It is like going to a library full of books that took 50 man-years to produce each, inventing a way to cut down the costs to a few man-months per book by copying and randomly improving on other books, and then wondering why nobody thinks your library full of these cheaper books is an in
asciilifeform: they had a line of pocket calculators, this was ( and as i understand, remains ) their flagship product. but! they somehow managed to lose their upstream ic vendors (they dun make much with own hands any moar) and nao reduced to selling same calc with ~ipnoje+emulator internals, and multi-second boot(yes) times
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ti is epic example of sad -- at one time 1 of the largest semiconductor houses in usa, and built not only a lispm ( flopped ) but fairly beefy 80s micro ( ti-99/4 , also flopped )
asciilifeform: btw there's a megatonne of 512b rsa keys in my db
asciilifeform: ( at one time i tried to rsa on 6502, it's a royal bitch on 8bit-wide chip with no multiplier )
mircea_popescu: but yes, access to entropy is by now the one underpinning of being a citizen.
mircea_popescu: there's a time when the hotglue guns and bimbo-chewed gum comes out.
mircea_popescu: i am by now thoroughly allergic to this "downstream wants something upstream doesn't provide, so it's neither time to bring out the whips and chains upon the downstream nor to throw out the upstream and bake a new one, but instead let's hotwire the microwave ballast to the toaster."
a111: Logged on 2016-08-18 22:32 asciilifeform: 'The situation is somewhat akin to a retarded girlfriend trying to flood your apartment, that not only opens all the faucets and stops all the drains, but also takes the "extremely clever" measure of puncturing the water pipes, so she can then preciously inform you that "turning off the faucets won't help" and you must work with her to somehow create a raft out of your widescreen TV so as to navigate the marshy terrain that used to b
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i sat down & tried to think of a legit use for urandom, only came up with what's in the linked thread
mircea_popescu: have your own program designed correctly, so your own shitropy management thread ensures your own shitropy calls always return in constant time. YOUR JOB, as a shitropy eater.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-12 12:39 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-12#1860778 << there are not so many legitimate uses for /dev/urandom. however the idea that it can be fully reproduced in userland without kernel knob is afaik a mistake -- the thing gives you real entropy if available, and elsewise prngolade; importantly, as a ~nonblocking~ operation. idea is that it ~always~ returns in constant time.
asciilifeform: in very bright sun it gives colour, of a sort, interestingly
mircea_popescu: don't tell me your problem is not having a 3d printer./
asciilifeform: it's a physical part, gotta fit in the frame
mod6: i expected the "1" to work, however, maybe it's just a "smrt phone" thing
BingoBoingo: Nah, dialing ambiguity is a US telecom thing