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a111: Logged on 2017-01-03 23:09 asciilifeform: and if you can achieve it in a ~discrete~ system, you can get wolfram
to drink himself
to death, by properly demonstrating 'cellular physics' (tm) (r) where he failed.
trinque: The state’s highest court explained, “the detective was
the only eyewitness who
testified
to
the defendant's conduct” and
that he was disgusted “after viewing
the defendant's exposed penis, not for himself, but rather out of ‘concern’ for
the women seated on
the bench.”
mircea_popescu: DUDE BUT I
THOUGHT MANY INTELLIGENT EYES MAKE BUGS SHALLOW
mircea_popescu: mostly linked because of
the epic announcement, "there may be bugs in gfind"
a111: Logged on 2017-01-03 23:06 asciilifeform: because 'life' automaton
tends
to settle into quiescent states (bunch of small oscillating 'critters', no real
turmoil)
a111: Logged on 2017-01-03 22:48 davout: asciilifeform: point is piloting a small plane
there's just a few
things
to pay attention
to constantly
a111: Logged on 2017-01-03 22:35 asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: my current (wholly nonexpert) understanding is
that airplane DELIBERATELY omits 'hard interlocks' wherever possible, on
the principle
that not-being-able-to-X-when-you-must is worse
than can-X-when-you-mustn't
mod6: yeah, can wreck
the
thing for sure.
mod6: ben_vulpes: fyi, second edition has
the red cover,
the first edition is
the blue cover one.
☟︎ mod6: is
that
the same as
the JET-A1 or whatever I sometimes see on
the side of
tanks?
mod6: i guess
this
took place at a refueling stop in
the middle of
the night.
mod6: yeah, actually, now
that I
think about it, i was
told
that in
this particular case I was
talking about,
the guy didn't even put in regular unleaded (87 octane), he put in like 110 octane racing fuel.
mod6: know someone
this happened
to once, apparently diesel was shooting flames of unleaded out of
the
tailpile, while running like dog-shit (excessive knocking etc).
mircea_popescu: and in other news, girl preparing
to weigh self, "if it shows me over what i started at ima jump out
the window". me, equanimous "wouldn't it be better
to jump out window if surprisingly light,
than if surprisingly heavy ?'
mod6: it easy
to put unleaded regular gas into a diesel, but not vice-versa.
the diesal nozzles are
too large for a standard gasoline
tube.
a111: Logged on 2017-01-03 22:32 asciilifeform: i'd naively
think
that
this would've been resolved in 1930s, if not earlier, just make
the levers vastly different (shapes, or lengths, and feel, etc)
mircea_popescu: in other news wow Framedragger your log selection
thing is immensely useful for eg leaving comments on davout 's site.
mircea_popescu: (re
the above discussion - one of
the B.Ts may well be "cache of
txns with unspent outputs" specifically
to aid in mempool evaluation. but
this is philosophy 102.)
mircea_popescu: (re
the above discussion - one of
the B.Ts may well be "cache of
txns with unspent outputs" specifically
to aid in mempool evaluation. but
this is philosophy 102.)
mircea_popescu: these are good-to-have, not dependencies. let
the lizzard queen fuck with ips a while first.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform nobody forces you
to keep
the
throttle in place for your friends.
mircea_popescu: (yes, yes, "prb nodes will outcompete". sure. and reddit/wikipedia/etc outcompete us,
totally.)
mircea_popescu: this is a fine avenue of rebalancing
the miner/node nonsense.
mircea_popescu: worked while it worked but on
the long
term "collegiallity" of
this elk is unsustainable.
mircea_popescu: how MUCH verification work i wish
to do for
the world - is my choice, not
the world's.
mircea_popescu: something like "one
txn accepted in mempool per hour per peer" is reasonable.
mircea_popescu: to doublespend you have
to MINE it.
to accept something in mempool, does not mean it has become accepted in blockchain.
mircea_popescu: you cvan not engage in an open ended "i will for all comers do
the work of checking one cent
txn against a 10 dollar blockchain".
mircea_popescu: so
then use
that. as
the spec says, m.t specifically left unspecified.
mircea_popescu: i have no idea how you maintain your mempool atm ; or if it is what you're
talking about even, is it ?
mircea_popescu: (the correct solving scheme is still as i said back when we were discussing mempools,
to keep
track of peers (yes, by ips) and score
them by
the fees
they bring your mempool. with
this change --
that is even implementable.)
mircea_popescu: that being
the fundamental point of separation in
the first place.
mircea_popescu: and no, not wholly mempool less.
there is m.t. what it contains - we care not. when problems will arise,
they will be solved without impacting on
the core scheme.
mircea_popescu: i don't
think
today's logic does anything ; and i don't expect carrying it forward is useful. spec does include room for
trb.n
to do some banning, including on
the basis of passively exfiltrated data from
trb.b.
that a protocol for
this purpose may later develop i don't dispute, but it's not included both because it's not needed and because it can't become a "dependency". it's not.
a111: Logged on 2017-01-03 20:48 mircea_popescu: in particular N.B should be "older overwrites newer" style ring buffer. of particular concern are situations where
the buffer is set shorter
than
the longest reorg, in which case
the node will wedge.
TRB.N not accepting blocks with index lower
than highest of B.B is for sure not feasible. "how many behind" should be an operator knob.
mircea_popescu: do you read
the spec or just sit
there and dream a little dream ?
mircea_popescu: no. one just reads,
the other just writes, at all points where
they interact. no
talking is contemplated, and if
this is "a protocol"
then it's already given.
mircea_popescu: the whole point is for
them
to NOT speak
to one another.
a111: Logged on 2017-01-03 22:24 asciilifeform:
they will require a -- quite complicated -- entirely new protocol
a111: Logged on 2017-01-03 22:19 davout: make
the miner a separate bin
a111: Logged on 2017-01-03 22:16 asciilifeform: but it is a stretch. and does not let you ignite a bitcoin overnight if
transported
to alpha centauri (or, more likely, earth-with-broken-mainnet)
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-03#1595862 <<
this is a stronger argument
than it appears. we may find ourselves in
the position where we have
to, if not "mine" in
the current sense, say what mining should be. in no case can it be "oh, mining, not something we care about". about mining, about any other part.
☝︎ jhvh1: 9. Made direct amends
to such people wherever possible, except when
to do so would injure
them or others.