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ben_vulpes: so i cracked everything open, and sure enough the patch in question doesn't touch any files touched in the makefiles vpatch
ben_vulpes: anyways this came to my attention when i had the privkey tools vpatch on my table and it showed up *above* makefiles.vpatch in the output of both our flow utils, which spooked me
ben_vulpes: mod6: on previous thread, i have a vague memory of stuffing a RELEASE stanza in every file of a release to neck the tree down
ben_vulpes: my jimmies ain't even rustled, par for the course
mircea_popescu: nuts, "this calender doesn't support pasta". wtf is it even there then
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: one of the several emacs shell thingers
ben_vulpes: mod6: what was the reasoning behind http://btcbase.org/patches/makefiles#L378 again?
mircea_popescu: wtf is that!
ben_vulpes: k, never using that again
ben_vulpes: what i want is a "bitch do the obvious thing" switch
ben_vulpes: i'm sure it's all very useful in the prevention of foot-shoosting but ugh
ben_vulpes: naively, i figured cp simply overwrote the target
mircea_popescu: be less terrorist.
asciilifeform: apparently my nick is 'never registered' on somewhere b/w 1/2 to 2/3 of all fleanode boxen
BingoBoingo: studs are thermally conductive relative to every else that should be in wall
asciilifeform: (exercise for reader, to understand why)
asciilifeform: incidentally thermovisor will also show you studs
asciilifeform: 'ought to' is of limited use.
BingoBoingo: That's what measuring tape is for, to check where stud ought to be
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Stanley 47-400 Magnetic Stud Finder - Stud Finders And Scanning ...: <https://www.amazon.com/Stanley-47-400-Magnetic-Stud-Finder/dp/B0000BYD3K>; Amazon.com: Customer Reviews: Stanley 47-400 Magnetic Stud ...: <https://www.amazon.com/Stanley-47-400-Magnetic-Stud-Finder/product-reviews/B0000BYD3K>; Magnetic Stud Finder - 47-400 | STANLEY Tools: (1 more message)
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Amazon.com: Johnson Level & Tool 160 Stud Finder Plus : Home ...: <https://www.amazon.com/Johnson-Level-Tool-160-Finder/dp/B00004T808>; Customer Reviews: Johnson Level & Tool 160 Stud Finder Plus: <https://www.amazon.com/Johnson-Level-Tool-160-Finder/product-reviews/B00004T808>; Johnson Stud Finder Plus -160 - The Home Depot: <http://www.homedepot.com/p/Johnson-Stud-Finder-Plus-160/10021
BingoBoingo sometimes doesn't care to make 9v battery run just because fancy studfinder was thirsty
BingoBoingo: Studfinders? Nah magnet on a pivot that "catches" on ferrous metal like nails
asciilifeform: and they're densitometric not magnetic, wtf
asciilifeform: lul didja read the thing backwards or wat
BingoBoingo: In so far as many magnetic studfinders can tell, galvanized pipe and emt conduit are promising places to drill and screw
asciilifeform: speaking of shit wiring, thermovisor will show you some very interesting things in an old house.
asciilifeform: in so far as can tell with naked eye, and with the sensors, it was built 'by the book'.
BingoBoingo: No such thing in residential because previous tenants or owners "Pro Idiotas"
BingoBoingo: Count wires in junction box and enter attic to view from above?
asciilifeform: but enough to push the 'dead' cap-less unit over the edge, briefly.
asciilifeform: not enough of a spike to propagate down the wire to where i have the plotter
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i saw interesting variant of this, with the selfsame led bulbs, where a dead lamp would light for about 1/2 second after the live one connected in tandem switched (from wall switch) off !
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> honestly i have nfi what a "doorbell" is for. police doesn't knock anymore anyway and everyone else should make a fucking appointment. << apparently they are for backfeeding current into switched circuits they are wired off of when said circuits are "off"
asciilifeform: btw, bonus tip for tuned-in folx, it dun hurt to have a number of cameras pointed at door- or window-shaped holes in your dwelling, some of which are prominent, and might depend on mains current, but others -- not so prominent, and do not, and do not write to the net or to any place you can get to other than by demolishing whole bldg
asciilifeform: not everybody has a guard booth with servant chilling his bones by the antitank ditch on the edge of the dirigible field.
mircea_popescu: who receives people off the street randomly ?
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i do have a voltage plotter here, though.
asciilifeform: this place didn't even have a doorbell until i put in chinese battery-powered thing
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: no such thing here.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> (now, they ALSO burn after 6mo. so not all that useful.) << Have you hunted for miswired low voltage hvac or door bell transformers? I had a "bulb killing fixture" that was tamed by removing backfeeding noisy ass doorbell transformer.
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2017/01/fuck-white-people-pack-of-native-chicagoans-torture-captive-white-boy/ << Qntra - "Fuck White People": Pack Of Native Chicagoans Torture Captive White Boy
mircea_popescu: meanwhile at the duck pond, http://68.media.tumblr.com/97461d3414b20d53eb11a08ddf547d83/tumblr_mva0e1uGFJ1ra4o0oo1_1280.jpg
asciilifeform: (lampism esoterica. 'soft white' is the trade name for the faux-incandescent phosphor variant led)
mircea_popescu: "oh, he's not from around here, which means we can't live in his house but NEITHER CAN HE IN OURS! because that's how white man supremacy works, totally!"
mircea_popescu: idiots. who the fuck do they think they are, seriously, buncha inept alt-white people.
mircea_popescu: ah, the cairo thing ?
asciilifeform: 'let's give'im that one SPESHUL horse'
mircea_popescu: yes, "manufacturer thought things through", but not in the sense usually contemplated.
mircea_popescu: evidently you got one of the recycled.
asciilifeform: (now, they ALSO burn after 6mo. so not all that useful.)
mircea_popescu: heh, they're doing the whole "portland the spacestation, only so much volume available" thign there huh
asciilifeform: i do different thing -- mail the lamps back, with a note about considering www article re rubbish lamp, and inviting maker to consider honouring the warranty
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: aha yes i play the exact opposite game. "oh, the recycling bin is the big one? great, that's where everything goes."
mircea_popescu: all this "oh, we're all friends" bs is for the dogs. i ain't fiatola's friend.
mircea_popescu: somehow - they will pay. i ain't giving jack for free.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i wonder if they have prisoners sift through rubbish in search of lamps yet.
a111: Logged on 2017-01-05 23:48 asciilifeform: one reason is that the chumps often submit'em, for free, for 'recycle', and the lamp house gets to sell ~same motherfucking lamp N times
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-05#1597139 << quite this, actually. i never "recycle" in the sense of give for free. straight into kitchen trash it all goes. let them learn how to pay. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: having menawhile colored their glass a very superb tint of rose through metal deposition
a111: Logged on 2017-01-05 23:46 asciilifeform: led lamp makers are scamming folx left and right in entirely nonsubtle ways (i just unscrewed 5th dead '20 year life!111' bulb this year, none were older than ~1y)
mircea_popescu: http://archive.is/KxvRD << sadly for the credibility of the us "intelligence community", 134.249.139.239 was doing web/blog spam back in 2014.
asciilifeform: (for this sensor, anything below 400nm)
mircea_popescu: anyway, this is a thing of the 70s, mostly gone now. the modern northern "window" is so insulating as you couldn't believe.
a111: Logged on 2017-01-05 21:53 asciilifeform: ~0 of which gets through typical lamp dome, just as nobody gets sunburn from sitting near a window indoors.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-05#1597100 << this is not actually true, ftr. back in the days of unfloated double-panel with gas separator, you could get plenty sunburnt in the northern solaria domes during their pathetic excuse for a summer. ☝︎
ben_vulpes: that'd be the joke, yes
ben_vulpes: my gut is hanging over it, can't tell anymore
mircea_popescu: is he like, a duck ? has threaded business tool ?
asciilifeform: oh i know how this knot is cut:
ben_vulpes: most of the time at least
mircea_popescu: it's ok ben jewes, you can tell us.
ben_vulpes: mistress is 90% joke anyways! tell wife going to visit mistress, save time on mistress at shop!
mircea_popescu: if you say "can't pretend to visit mistress when wife is in same haus" the parser wil lsettle on "that's because wife and girl share a bedroom."
asciilifeform: aha, he has the air of a 2-engined fella
ben_vulpes: can't pretend to visit mistress when wife is in same haus
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform cuz he keeps saying things that go perfectly with it ? i dunno.
ben_vulpes: why did you all think this?
asciilifeform: why did i think this
mircea_popescu: aok then
asciilifeform: i also thought!
mircea_popescu: i thought you lived with two women.
ben_vulpes: but hey, at least standard deduction is going to 24k for the married men
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: glorious socialist wasteland of stealing the stolen from
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: it isn't the lamp that catches fire
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i think you mean (return (many happy))
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes that's ok, it's because upwards mobility, see? you can now touch ceilings your parents couldn't.
a111: Logged on 2017-01-05 21:13 phf: it's safe to save 66.35.48.19 for glyf.org, it's been the same ip for the past 10 years or so. in fact, assuming this is not some weird overflow issue, today is a birthday on glyf.org machine. 2048 days uptime
ben_vulpes: i grew up in one of those houses
mircea_popescu: whole buildings of type 3 still exist here, unmolested since the 60s
asciilifeform: though oddly enough, the hovels where i lived as a student were old enough to have proper ceilings !
asciilifeform: in usa, ~everyone (save for 'old money' rockefeller types) are at best #2bum
mircea_popescu: 2 types of bum : he who lives in hovel where can see the stars through the ceiling, and he who lives in hovel where can touch the ceiling.
mircea_popescu: all mine are ceramic. also my ceilings went from the standard 2.3 to the rarer 2.85 sometime long ago. turns out - also quite addictive.
asciilifeform: american houses are the architectural mcdonalds, cramped, uncomfortable cardboard crematoria waiting to ignite
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i took a 100w-max one apart not long ago, found that even it includes fiberglass fireproofing thing next to ceiling
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: 200watt fixture is typically a flat disk of porcelain with socket. What mega dissipation?
mircea_popescu: anyway, i fgind the converse to be true, proper lights quite addictive.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: not practical to put a 200w-dissipating fixture on a ceiling already so low mircea_popescu would scratch the top of his dome if he came to my house
mircea_popescu: WHY DO YOU THINK