asciilifeform: Luke-Jr: so you'll surrender if opponent so much as lifts a finger in opposition? or do you have some 'round two' answer that doesn't involve centrally-controlled zap lists.
asciilifeform: Luke-Jr: don't lie and say that it won't be a remote-updated kill list. because that's the only answer - other than surrender.
asciilifeform: Luke-Jr: let's suppose that we agreed with your 'blockchain environmentalism' philosophy, and wished to expell the dice men. say they start to switch addrs daily. what will you propose as a counter-attack?
asciilifeform: adlai: conv was about blacklists because an infamous fool who pushes blacklists logged on and started crapping into #b-a
asciilifeform: Luke-Jr: even if we all despised the dice men as much as you did, named filter is still monumentally stupid;
asciilifeform: Luke-Jr: i dare guess that much of the hostility to your 'spam filter' mod comes from the expectation that it is a 'camel's nose in the tent' for a dynamic, centrally-controlled censor mechanism. because anything short of that would simply dissipate like a fart in the wind in the face of any kind of organized resistence whatsoever.
asciilifeform: Luke-Jr: so surrender now. if your mod had any traction at all, the victims would escape within seconds.
asciilifeform: Luke-Jr: 'spam' debate aside - how do you intend to filter the dice txes when the dicemeisters let go of the idiocy of reusing addrs ?
asciilifeform: Luke-Jr: so far you have failed to make a case why your turd is a sausage and we should in fact be eating with relish.
asciilifeform: picture if you had to set USE="-cyanide" or everything you put in your mouth will be cyanide-enabled by default, and no one will see it fit to warn you.
asciilifeform: i'm told that scarcely anyone read them in dead tree.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: they had paper journals as recently as two years ago. but now zapped.
asciilifeform: interestingly, spy cameras are no longer necessary there. they've installed public 'face-up' scanners that go straight from dead tree to jpeg on usb drive, gratis
asciilifeform: mats: my university no longer gets paper copies of journals.
asciilifeform: me and want the criminals stopped and punished.' (mr. o)
asciilifeform: 'While most regular Russians go to Sberbank to pay their utility bills and municipal fees, a few highly irregular Russians (and a few foreigners among them) go to Sberbank to sit in posh offices in front of trading terminals and gamble away the regular Russians' savings. The regular Russians are rather upset about this state of affairs, and 70% of them state in opinion polls that they consider currency manipulation to be a cri
asciilifeform: i'm told they threw out the books in many places, in favour of rows upon rows of winblows terminals, public 3d printer stalls, etc.
asciilifeform: quite arguably, both were largesse of monopolists, and died with the monopolies.
asciilifeform: interestingly, there is a xerox lisp machine emulator for msdos, of all things, 'medley.' i have never located a copy.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: there were other interesting lisps of the period - xerox's 'interlisp' (and its environment) being perhaps the most noteworthy
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: pre-dated the ansi standard effort
asciilifeform: it is why single-vendor (how else) 'implementation as standard' is fundamentally retarded.
asciilifeform: employed by the university << where i live, it gets you (above a certain rank) free tuition. so plenty of takers. but this is a different animal from earlier picture.
asciilifeform: (they exist! everyone remembers the 19th c. 'eternal students', who were bequeathed a certain income to live on -while students- by rich family, and so stretched out study for decades - today, it's loan deferment.)