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mircea_popescu: you see, i had an intel department for years before i found bitcoin
Naphex: i never read blogs, or cared much about them
dexX7: oh i assumed you made this word up
mircea_popescu: im confusing rompetrol and petrom like i'd confuse bitfuck and fuckcoin
mircea_popescu: exactly the way i handle btc, incidentally. just don't sound like the lumpens and you'll be okay.
HeySteve: perhaps I'm being thick but I don't see how http://trilema.com/2012/adnotated-words-of-wisdom-on-the-topic-of-online-fraud/ applies to blockchain WoT. Nigerians pic made me lol though
Naphex: along the lines where i was thinking:P
fluffypony: Naphex: I've seen some REALLY good affiliate systems that do very small lifetime rewards
Naphex: well i was just thinking, rewarding inviters with 0.0001 upon each withdrawal by an invitee
mircea_popescu: i can respect your desire to build a better process for refining hahnium, or for resolving doppler aberrations in telescopy.
HeySteve: heh well, I hope we can satisfy such concerns and build something useful
fluffypony: I won't pay to use the system when there's a perfectly good free one I'm already on :-P
HeySteve: well, I want to make the signup cost vastly more expensive than the cost of earning rep through good behaviour
HeySteve: fluffypony I have studied that article in some depth
fluffypony: all I need to do is create a number of fake actors and claim they only did good deeds today (each fake actor supporting the other) and I receive average yearly income * the number of fake actors I've created
mircea_popescu: once i leave that village is fucked.
mircea_popescu: and so through incentivising good behaviour i managed to... break the wot.
mircea_popescu: so i say to these people : each day you only do good deeds, you will receive your average yearly income. but for every bad deed you do, you get fined x% of that.
mircea_popescu: i own more money than the entire village is worth, a million times over.
mircea_popescu: let me make this point clearer through an example. suppose i go to a village in somalia. this village has 100 people and they're all normal people, they do good and bad things by w/e definition of good and bad.
HeySteve: ah. well as I see it, bad behaviour leads to negative rep which makes future trades less likely and the inverse is true. that's how I use the term incentives.
mircea_popescu: why do i say what ?!
HeySteve: I have a further idea to incentivise non-scammy behaviour too
mircea_popescu: i know nanotube was working on a wot 2.0 that'd be distributed and not depend on him
mircea_popescu: HeySteve i don't follow ? the wot is integrated with any cryptocurrency as it is. i can and have rated people for say... atc deals.
HeySteve: mircea_popescu, quite so. I spoke to nanotube about integrating WoT with a cryptocurrency
fluffypony: although tbh I don't know why sites like that and BTCJam etc. don't just integrate with the WoT
mircea_popescu: yeah i see
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: yeah that's exactly what I said
mircea_popescu: HeySteve: I was a seller there, it's unfortunate there's no way to migrate feedback from shuttered markets... << which is why wot.
mircea_popescu: not i, not this year. i took some gents with whom i work up to the mountain for 4 days of drinking and talking about what the ever loving fuck we want to do for the next 3-7 years. << so you had brosex.
mircea_popescu: (and even if it isn't, i'm pretty sure that's their rationale)
mircea_popescu: actually upc arguably started as astral, which you know... got started by the father of a chick i was doing back in hs
mircea_popescu: fluffypony yeah. ppl are liek... "how come romania?!?!" and i'm like... dude, how long you got ?
mircea_popescu: fluffypony as far as romanians are concerned, the 90s were spent going "da-i romaneasca ?" ie, does it suck ?
mircea_popescu: Naphex i actually like them both. which i guess is somewhat rare.
fluffypony: I wonder if your post would show up first for Romanian language results
mircea_popescu: then one day i use one of their lines as a title for a post, and i get the #1 spot by morning.
cazalla: i don't tbh as i'm still relatively young and by the time i'm old, perhaps there will be a cure
fluffypony: I live in fear of that
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: wife is East German, so I've learnt about a lot of that stuff, especially from her grandparents
HeySteve: mircea_popescu I found another of his oil paintings going for nearly $10 mil
HeySteve: given the stability of my connection, I'd say it's confirmed they are
fluffypony: although it is multicast so I dunno, ZA DNS providers are just slow and stupid
HeySteve: fluffypony I get a server not found error in FF
fluffypony: I started a blog that I'm aiming to update extremely sporadically and only when I particularly feel like it
HeySteve: sure thing, I think many people will have questions at that price especially considering the piece's history
mircea_popescu: HeySteve don't get me wrong, i'm not laying into you personally or anything
HeySteve: I'm just reporting what the seller's agent told me
HeySteve: heh I don't know enough about fine art to want to take that bet
HeySteve: well it's worth what people will pay for it I guess.
mircea_popescu: i'll bet you it won't sell for 40mn usd or equiv.
HeySteve: well, I don't expect it will sell for bitcoin, more likely for USD if they get their price (which may be lower than their asking)
mircea_popescu: HeySteve i tell you i dun see it. i estimate it to be worth in the 90-190 btc range. now what ?
mircea_popescu: i mean i guess the idea is that bitcoiners are so fucking rich and clueless that they have no idea what's what, so they may throw 100k btc on something worth 1% of that.
HeySteve: however, that value was estimated in one of the linked stories I believe
HeySteve: here is that article I mentioned: http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/news/sorcerer-hiva-oa-paul-gauguin-available-90000-btc/2014/04/22
fluffypony: BingoBoingo: please point to the part of the sentence where I said I hate it
jurov: <davout> ;;rate ThickAsThieves 1 this nick maps to a real person i have met IRL, also CoinBR <<< lol I'm not aware TAT took over coinbr :D
dexX7: signing via bitcoind is simple but i'd like to cover more ways
dexX7: actually i'm writing a tutorial for
dexX7: that's the plan fluffypony. and i'm looking for a way to sign with a minimal setup. like a very simple website + js or similar
HeySteve: nanotube, may I have a word in private?
HeySteve: right, well I'd very much like to speak to nanotube in any case, in relation to my project
HeySteve: sure, it's open source and the data is easily copied, so I guess it could be mirrored easily enough
HeySteve: I was a seller there, it's unfortunate there's no way to migrate feedback from shuttered markets...
fluffypony: I've bought a couple of things on CryptoThrift, not blown away by the site but it seems to be a lot better than BitMit
moiety: o.o i didn't know thats where Josh spawned from
bitcoinpete: ;;later tell mircea_popescu you make a good point about the last line. as students of history, we ain't forgettin' shit. i'm tempted to re-write it but then your comment wouldn't make any sense. it did feel a bit off as i wrote it...
bitcoinpete: And I know MP caught my article earlier today, so for the rest of you:
moiety: i didnt know what they were, i see now
benkay`: the up-20 (universal payload, I imagine...) was an impressive device. rated at max for 20Kg, and could swing a payload of that size around at lethal speeds.
benkay`: anyways. at the close of that gig i made a rule for myself that i would no longer sit at the controls of machines that could maim or kill me.
moiety: loli like typing !up i kinda wish it was !up [user] good boy!
benkay`: then i nearly took my own head off with it
benkay`: i was so excited to get my first motoman up 20
moiety: i will have this fear to if i ever get to meet a manul
benkay`: perhaps you love the atoms, and perhaps once i did as well, but i tired of the ever-present threat of digit removal.
moiety: i saw kako took a good pic too
benkay`: not i, not this year. i took some gents with whom i work up to the mountain for 4 days of drinking and talking about what the ever loving fuck we want to do for the next 3-7 years.
moiety: i've been surviving lol im fine. why did you go to the conf benkay?
moiety: that place looks really nice! i havent seen these pictures, I saw the trilema ones. everyone looks so cute!
benkay`: joecool: i did that earlier today, released, /nick'd myself, and then set it to autokick again.
moiety: ;; later tell BingoBoingo nope not moi but it is a manul! had to go look, i'm never there anymore
mircea_popescu: anway, i'm out. take it ezzy!
cgcardona_: i can only imagine. hopefully next year
cgcardona_: asciilifeform: epic pics. wish I was there.
kakobrekla: apparently i managed not to get doxxed this time
kakobrekla: well, i had the romanian customs scratching my passport with his fingernails for like 10 minutes, asking all sorts of questions.
asciilifeform: davout, others: i've a vast collection of pics, of various things, will eventually sort and post one or two.
dexX7: i heard many bad things about arrival, tsa and such but i didn't expect it to be that bad
mircea_popescu: funniest shit i read all week
mircea_popescu: "I found myself conversing with a young criminal lawyer who will soon be marrying into the same family that I did last summer. I think this makes us laws-in-laws."
davout: i took a few pictures, mircea_popescu if you want to compile them lemme me know
mircea_popescu: nao im almost as good as stan, i have my own derp.
diametric: I've been promised to hear some good stories about it tomorrow
davout: dexX7: i'm kind of surprised asciilifeform got through the customs at all with all the gear he was carrying :D
davout: ;;rate kakobrekla 1 this nick maps to a real person i have met IRL, also Bit4x
davout: ;;rate ThickAsThieves 1 this nick maps to a real person i have met IRL, also CoinBR
davout: ;;rate ThickAsThieves 1 this nick maps to a real person i have met IRL