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mircea_popescu: there is no such thing as degenerate matter (term of art, look it up) in any pea.
trinque: as for the pills, I've seen more than a handful of girls get very boring on them, some with symptoms like constipation even.
a111: Logged on 2017-03-17 12:46 mircea_popescu: as it happens i am not about to trade my insanely selected (not just http://trilema.com/2017/the-story-of-the-scared-slut/ should plainly indicate that scarcely a girl in a million makes it past my gates) toys for ... what the fuck for, $random-kid ? That's not for my sluts to do, that's for the 0 value redditards. for them, it's actually +ev. my girls have immensely more important shit to do, such as... everything else. the
asciilifeform: Framedragger: i did this as a boy
asciilifeform: ( there is a very famous photo illustrating why not, i will leave it as exercise for reader, to find it )
asciilifeform: well yeah, if they displayed it, someone might wonder what it is... and there'll be same wankscandal as when a hotel in nyc installed them
mircea_popescu: wtf do you do, she douches after ? every time ? you eat it out of her ? does she dribble cum all over the bed as you watch the second half of the movie, so in a coupla weeks your sheet's rigid ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: where's the surprise in this. airplane sits most of the time on parking lot, same as bulldozer, same as harem
mircea_popescu: ended up rich by accident, such as through being rockstar.
mircea_popescu: ~only sane way to look at sexuate reproduction in humans is as an equivalent of taking the minimum wage. it's a thing to do there, like flipping burgers, a safety net so you're never in this position where you have absolutely nothing you could do.
mircea_popescu: as it happens i am not about to trade my insanely selected (not just http://trilema.com/2017/the-story-of-the-scared-slut/ should plainly indicate that scarcely a girl in a million makes it past my gates) toys for ... what the fuck for, $random-kid ? That's not for my sluts to do, that's for the 0 value redditards. for them, it's actually +ev. my girls have immensely more important shit to do, such as... everything else. the ☟︎
diana_coman: hm, the first thing I purposefully learnt when on skis was...how to fall; as in: how to fall *without* breaking anything etc ☟︎
mircea_popescu: the animal ~is~ powerful as all hell. so if it decides to get you you're in trouble.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: nope. joystick in, e.g., f16, or airbus, is ~exactly same as toy joystick
davout: "he aircraft encountered wake turbulence sending the aircraft in uncontrolled roll turning the aircraft around at least 3 times (possibly even 5 times), both engines flamed out, the Ram Air Turbine could not deploy possibly as result of G-forces and structural stress, the aircraft lost about 10,000 feet until the crew was able to recover the aircraft exercising raw muscle force"
asciilifeform: it's precisely how all successful usgizations went -- slow, frogboiling replacement of a protocolic guarantee with a promisetronic one that is Just As Good (until it isn't, at which point you're long fucked)
davout: doesn't really matter where you get it from, as long as it verifies, you're not asking your connected peers for a wot identity, yet you take their data and verify it independently
mircea_popescu: as to the direct question, a pruned chain may make sense, if someone came up with a way to do it sanely. this seems impossible on bitcoin-as-it-is, and perhaps unlikely in the general.
a111: Logged on 2017-02-27 16:56 mircea_popescu: but the correct trb-i might just as well end up this situation where block reward is 1mn bitcoin, and it dies within 1mn blocks. so all mining does is produce ~ a lease ~ on a chunk of bitcoin. and the value of old bitcoin is monotonically decreasing over their lifetime.
davout: your copy of the blockchain being personal i don't see any other problem than peer-service, if, and only if, you've validated it as validly producing the UTXO set you consider valid
davout: i see not being able to serve historical data to peers as the major one from where i stand
davout: as a naive question, what exactly is the problem with pruning?
davout: as i understand it, since it's removed from the index
asciilifeform: davout: correct, but only tells half of the story. it is unspendable in the sense that whoever mined the original A, is left to be sad. but A can be reintroduced now. and with it, all of the tx that used it as an input.
davout: wouldn't it consider the reintroduction as "already spent" ?
asciilifeform: if you can re-introduce an old coinbase -- which you can , if it has been spent, per trb rules -- you (or anyone else) can afterwards reintroduce any and all tx that had that coinbase as an input
asciilifeform: davout: as i understand, the attack described in 7th paragraph, with the transplanted tree, would still work today.
asciilifeform: because it was built by somebody who was dropped as a baby, and uses tx id as if it were guaranteed unique, then turns around and 'oops, they aren't, but it doesn't matter Because Reasons'
davout: as mentioned a few lines earlier in the log
asciilifeform: davout: definitionally not, bitcoin has marvels such as being able to annihilate a coinbase from tx index using a (local! nobody but your node has to see it) reorg.
davout: don't see how, as far as i know you can't craft a tx without providing the tx of its parents
asciilifeform: astonishing how much retardation flows from this one little turd, the use of hashes (rather than positions) as tx pointers.
asciilifeform: so a prb user can be fucked during sync, so long as the fuckblock fed to him isn't numbered 91842 or 91880 ...
asciilifeform: what's a bezzle if not a sky held up by invisible column of farts and nobody-would-think-of-plane-as-rocket.
a111: Logged on 2017-03-16 17:19 mircea_popescu: even later on, coinbase C2 with same hash as C1 is introduced in block 3.
asciilifeform: it doesn't fall, as such
asciilifeform: as in the 2 linked examples on mimisbrunnr
mircea_popescu: i'm sorry, you're trying to recreate a coinbase as in, miner subsidy ?
asciilifeform: it would instead manifest as one or more chains of tx that a trb node -- a particular one, that saw the particular magic orphan -- mysteriously does not want to spend the outputs of.
mircea_popescu: altogether not a bad idea to make a set of test chains as per the tsting discussion last week. this can surely be both part of it and the incentive to do it.
mircea_popescu: you got a good point, but it's just part of the story as-is.
mircea_popescu: should dr evil attempt to re-mine C1 as part of T3 in block 4, this will fail, because T1 still exists in blockchain
mircea_popescu: even later on, coinbase C2 with same hash as C1 is introduced in block 3. ☟︎
asciilifeform: now for the practical consequence. what this means, as far as i can tell, is that there can exist -- may already exist -- chains of tx in trb, that cannot be walked back to a coinbase.
asciilifeform: trb as it exists , permits a new tx having same hash as old, so long as old one was spent.
mircea_popescu: he'd be doing this by himself as block 60 (really, why all the 0s ? you need them for something ?) which doublespends block 50 won't be accepted by eg me.
asciilifeform: as i understand, it will validate, in trb.
asciilifeform: there is no such thing as an O(1) undefined-size index.
asciilifeform: the way i read ln. 968, miners TODAY are apparently more than welcome to create a duplicate coinbase, so long as it is a dupe of a ~spent~ coinbase.
mircea_popescu: and what is meant when people such as me say bitcoin's a pos and what it was meant when i told the power ranger tards to fix it or get killed years ago
asciilifeform: so if you make a 'tx that has same hash as ANY known tx to date which != this tx' you have broken the pistol, forked from the old semantics.
mircea_popescu: hey, it stands to reason that poll of 10 is not as good as poll of 10k neh ?
pete_dushenski: in geert wilders news, his pvv (freedom) party is looking like it'll grab the second most seats in the 150-seat dutch parliament with... 19. crazy fractured system. italy / israel level. then again, these figures are "according to exit polls" which are worth as much as hillary "looking past the election". should be a lively night if all the dutch nate silvers get similarly thumped.
mircea_popescu is taking a grim sort of pleasure in the observation that it takes about as long to read as it took to write.
asciilifeform: as in fact ben_vulpes noticed earlier.
mircea_popescu: as per aquinas, "let me repent and let it be tomorrow", she'll do jus' fine.
danielpbarron: ie: good deeds done by people who don't believe is seen as disgusting to God
danielpbarron: "filthy rags" better translated as "rags of menstruation"
jhvh1: danielpbarron: [KJV] Isaiah 64:6 :: But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.
mircea_popescu: yes, but would you propose "she sucked the judges off, all of them" as a fine defense in your above case for whoredom ?
mircea_popescu: ah yes. but i'd rather discuss the whore he wilfully or accidentally omitted to address as such.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes laugh if you will but the issue is not entirely uninteresting... working on marriage for eulora. though there - one will only be able top marry npcs. even if they start as pcs - fine method for a player to suicide an avatar, this.
danielpbarron: as is the case in the US and europe
danielpbarron: according to the Bible, we get just as you describe. this world is no good and everyone seeks evil continuously
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron the overarching concern isn't so much what to do about x as what to do so all the fanciule don't start pressuring them out of society.
mircea_popescu: but as a general principle of db design : the property is stored with its creator, not with its object.
mircea_popescu: no such thing as british.
asciilifeform: declarations, of as-if-fact.
asciilifeform: 'There are a lot of people in the world who actually think like this. This is their for-real, no-joking conception of "marriage". They do not grasp that men and women are interchangeable, as a result of which homosexual marriages create repulsive integrity problems in their heads. "But if they're both guys, which one is the wife? Does not compute!" How sad.'
asciilifeform: as per old mircea_popescu essay
asciilifeform: but it's enough so as to never know where n+2nd element of a sequence is, without eating the n+1st !
mircea_popescu: it's basically a hobble. from which we discern satoshi, whether married or not, certainly saw no fundamental problem with marriage as a mental construction / social narrative.
asciilifeform: as in, ~counts~ of inputs/outputs in a tx; counts of tx in blocks
asciilifeform: as a result, parsing ANY of the traditional bitcoin serializations, is O(N) operation !
asciilifeform: so to round off the thread: blocks can be stored in 'fast' form, and reconstituted as-needed for transmission to peers; or alternatively, with 2x the disk cost, can be stored in both forms (i prefer the latter, with a background thread that randomly spot-checks the correspondence, which oughta be an iron 1:1 , everywhere )
b41e209ccc264812: no particular field. I am interested in general as what might be on your reading lists. Some of the concepts and topics you discuss are very interesting. But sometimes I find myself lacking background information and decided to start from somewhere
mircea_popescu: well, just as long as they don't have to do what they don't wanna do, i guess.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-15#1627307 << jurov look how ssh does port forwarding. it doesn't USE the normal shell part for anything. the whole POINT of fuckoff.c is to clog, and work as a 'stopper' for shell access ☝︎
mod6: There has been an automated test added for this as well.
asciilifeform: 'Once the victim receives this invalid block, they will cache it on disk, attempt to process it, and reject it as invalid. Re-requesting the block will not be even attempted since Bitcoin believes that it already has the block, since it has one with the same hash.'
mircea_popescu: (the people pushing for the dissolution of the thing are just as unprincipled, ftr. mostly a coalition of "payday lenders" ie 2nd generation loan sharks.)
mircea_popescu: en) and, lulzily, they came up with a system to "guess" based on reasons (such as zip codes and last names) who is a black applicant for loans, and then fined various usg agencies masquerading as banks by the 100s of millions for these alleged abuses. and they got it too, because settlement culture. and they didn't, of course, pay as much as a dime to the "estimated" victims, they being you know, "estimated" aka hallucinated,
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: ^ you can remove that sig_handler definition from fuckoff.c (as well as the signal.h #include) fwiw, as that that code won't ever be executed
Framedragger: asciilifeform: just fyi confirmed that in fuckoff.c, sig_handler() code is redundant as the function is not registered. (adding `signal(SIGHUP, sig_handler);` in main() changes behaviour and fixes this)
mircea_popescu: the "consumer computing community" functions approximately as a spotty porn offline backup.
mircea_popescu: amusingly, in an earlier, simpler time of "men inhabit bare stone dugouts together", the ability to not stink without washing was regarded as about half of what made monk a candiate for sainthood.
asciilifeform: ( as forecast by, e.g., sf writer neal stephenson, imbecilistan will devolve into pictographics )
mircea_popescu: it is a tempting naivism to imagine the empire as a sort of frictionless monster, in which every limb gets full and impeded access to any tool it needs whenever it needs it. this however is not how any empire works irl.
a111: Logged on 2017-03-14 14:07 Framedragger: mircea_popescu: re. blackholing and to be alf-pessimistic for a second, node is exposed to risk of being blackholed as long as it uses TCP; because not only can enemy make it read packets (unavoidable in the end it seems), but there may be ways to making it send packets back.
asciilifeform: imho entire point of items such as bitcoin is as 'antibiotic' against massed stupidity.
asciilifeform: for so long as the nodes actually 'serve all-comers', they can be enumerated.
asciilifeform: Framedragger: ddos as a concept relies on something having a 'the ip'
Framedragger: asciilifeform: forged as in e.g. where source ip addr != actual source?
asciilifeform: if masquerading as, e.g., dns crapola, becomes important, then can set udp's
asciilifeform: folx can use whatever protocol number they want, so long as other end knows it.
Framedragger: asciilifeform: can you not use raw sockets (with some kind of linux cap to allow program to open them without root), defining udp-like struct within? (i'm sure performance tuning may not be easy, i mean to achieve same level of optimisation as in kernel stack)
asciilifeform: so as to be able to make a box that silently drops garden-variety udp spamola, if any comes
Framedragger: i'm sure it's less than that especially as you don't need to save state/session info
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: re. blackholing and to be alf-pessimistic for a second, node is exposed to risk of being blackholed as long as it uses TCP; because not only can enemy make it read packets (unavoidable in the end it seems), but there may be ways to making it send packets back. ☟︎
trinque: makefile would make the dir, maybe ~/trb-deps as default, or w/e