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danielpbarron: yeah, thanks pete_dushenski for the auctioneering
mircea_popescu: in other news pete_dushenski is actually a pretty clever auctioneer, once he overcomes not having done homewerks through listening to the market chatter.
a111: Logged on 2017-01-15 18:49 phf: actually funniest "charitable" pretense is some years ago kate michaels raising money for underprivileged kids so that they can play polo. every time i remember it i crack up
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-15#1603310 << eh hey hundred years ago they started 'raising money for underprivileged' so they could derp around 'learning' the liberal arts, and that's how we go to here. ☝︎
asciilifeform: (from my reading of the text.)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: quite obviously i do not know bernstein as a human, but can only conjecture, that he felt like a proper rube , ripe for fleecing in orc land.
asciilifeform: (while we're on subj, mircea_popesculandia was interesting in re whores, they had ads for'em pasted on every surface, dumpsters, light poles, bus stations, as if they were plumbers in usa)
mircea_popescu: hotel hookers aren't dangerous. think for a second.
Framedragger: (it's more like them just talking in the film, i must say it is really a nice watch)
mircea_popescu: well an interview may be too formal, but yeh
Framedragger: another film recommendation by association - documentary: "whore's glory" - by one glawogger (who died from malaria or somesuch while filming in liberia or somewheresuch), a bunch of interviews with whores in bangladesh, thailand etc ☟︎
mircea_popescu: i certainly spent way more time chatting with whores than fucking them. no regrets.
mircea_popescu: YOU DONT EVEN HAVE TO FUCK HER
phf: the kind of people who think that the only better way to say no to a beautiful russian sex girl is to do it over a form
Framedragger: " The phone rang shortly after I drifted off. No more jet lag; I jumped out of bed and picked up the phone. Now I'll find out who's been calling, I thought. ``Would you like beautiful Russian sex girl?'' a woman asked. ``No, thank you,'' I said. Couldn't you just hand out forms at the front desk? I thought. I went back to sleep. "
Framedragger: unrelated to anything, just a nice writeup by djb about his conference trip to st petersburg: http://cr.yp.to/conferences/russia.html
mircea_popescu: yer supposed to lay out the merchandize and so forth
mircea_popescu: come to the town up teh hill
pete_dushenski: another dumb q : the auction convo just happens in the 'auction' tab, yes ?
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: where does the eulora client hide the in-game logs ?
mircea_popescu: cargo cultism all the way.
phf: actually funniest "charitable" pretense is some years ago kate michaels raising money for underprivileged kids so that they can play polo. every time i remember it i crack up ☟︎
mircea_popescu: this somewhat in the vein of "i want to believe these eggs weren't actually shat by the dumbest thing on the farm."
phf: i want to believe that there's a dusty attic somewhere on upenn campus, grandfathered in of course, with a library and a secret liquor store, where boys wearing ascots meet to discuss their progress at becoming men
phf: so it's a divergent process, you have mediocrity taking over, while excellence retreating
phf: other two would never even consider
phf: i have two or three friends who were proud of their ivy fraternities, and i checked, umd had a chapter for one of them, stopped qualifying sometime in the 80s
mircea_popescu: but in the late 60s there was :)
phf: umd is a public school, there's not necessarily "tradition of excellence" when it comes sororities/fraternities. it's the least common denominator herding kind of thing, with corresponding activities
mircea_popescu: "somebody who has no other options, evidently" "oh yeah, and HOW did they end up not having other options ?" "ikr! SOCIALISM FOREVAR!!1"
mircea_popescu: anyway, this shift from "spend your free time getting better and let the others acquire that as best they can" to "spend your free time giving yourself for free and forget improvement" is very much the reason america even needs to be made great again. r&d ended up cut out of the loop as it were ; who wants the time of some dork "as she is".
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski well there is that nice video of the girl sticking dildos inside etc
mircea_popescu: at some point in the 60s/70s it was mostly about personal achievement
pete_dushenski: http://www.tinhouse.com/blog/45211/ask-a-librarian-whats-the-strangest-thing-youve-found-in-a-library-book.html << heh, can BingoBoingo top a whole cooked shrimp ?
phf: i'm pretty sure that whole angle is never going away, at least it was as strong while i was there. one sort of complements the other.
mircea_popescu: so it kept pushing teenage ditzes into old people's homes and whatnot.
mircea_popescu: you know, sororities supposedly existed not to get the members deflowered but to "service the community"
mircea_popescu: is the "charitable" pretense that was going on in the 90s still going strong or is it starting to go away ?
phf: left of the line it runs on campus housing, the three bars where everyone gets shitface and then sororities (i suspect fraternities are also there, but no idea)
pete_dushenski: cool thx
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: yup, ready to rock in 60 mins for the auction.
phf: left of the line
mircea_popescu: and where's the best parties ?
phf: actually, this is pretty hilarious. because you can walk a reasonably straight line and get: compsci, electric engineering, chemistry, math, student center, political science, cultural studies, arts, business buildings in that order
mircea_popescu: which are worse than ads ffs.
mircea_popescu: and the ~only "media" they study in this "multimedia" is youtube shorts.
mircea_popescu: label entirely bereft of any meaning, it's like going to cooking school called "alchemy"
phf: right, there's a very distinct continuum, with compsci building on one end and rhsmith of business on the other
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: intro to journawhoring
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: phf is quite right, the place was astonishingly physically segregated
mircea_popescu: and "communications" and "arts" and "multimedia" and "drama" and the list goes on
asciilifeform: to the cow -- yes, farm exists to supply tasty snacks and warm place to moo.
phf: well, umd campus is large, and tech buildings are, as is usually the case, are in the remote corner. you have to track all the way past the student center, to the other side, where poliscy and sociology are
asciilifeform: i am looking at this farm through the lens of the farmer, rather than the cow.
mircea_popescu: us college exists principally to make young women comfortable with being naked in public and such basics, as far as anyone can tell.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: they fall into the 3rd category -- they exist so that male chumper has TWO sets of nondischargeable loan to service, vs 1.
mircea_popescu: phf i was thinking, wtf, college for any other purpose than slut magnet ? where's he live.
mircea_popescu: hey, for as long as the fathers of peasants buy into the nonsense dissected in http://trilema.com/2014/a-practical-exercise-for-people-who-cant-afford-airfare/#selection-89.0-93.622 that arrangement is sustainable, i guess.
asciilifeform: where i went, they were mostly in first category.
phf: missing the quarterbackers from your list
asciilifeform: 3 types of meatstock are bred for the college racket in usa: the slum bunnies ('diversity admit', they bring in usg payola), the eloi (actual future mandarins, small numbers, they zuckerberg around, you will find'em on rowboats, yachts), and the peasants (most of the chumpers. their purpose is to service nondischargeable debt for the rest of their natural lives.)
asciilifeform: so the exams had 'magic tricks' built in, like this.
asciilifeform: in the old dayz, there was a somewhat more 'turkish' system in usa, when the snake had not yet shed its vestigial legs, and 'merit' still had to be faked into existence for the children of the anointed.
mircea_popescu: i take the nobody back then. impressive enough.
asciilifeform: this was done for the old entrance exam ('sat') in 1990s, and turned into a 'THEY dun want YOU to KNOW!!111' b00k, and fixed.
mircea_popescu: "we created ai that can pass any college exam. it... counts letters."
mircea_popescu: actually (evidently nobodyu's done this, because hurr, experts, hurr, cryptographers, hurr durr) but it would be amusing to run simple word length averaging on random selection of multiple choice tests, see how often you can crack it with no other measure
asciilifeform: (i shit thee not)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: at one point they tried to abolish the obviously-comical 'multiple choice', in favour of... worse thing, can you picture:
mircea_popescu: i can 60% a 4-choice test on any topic in klingon.
mircea_popescu: phf it's interesting how un-alphabetic their approach is, also. "you will learn these three hieroglyphs ; and shame on mp for using longer words than 4 letters, it's not really writing when you do that!"
mircea_popescu: what with all the nunneries.
mircea_popescu: at a time the usian methodists etc were trying hard to resist that tide all over east coast mill towns
mircea_popescu: i very much doubt it needed any help with that ; by churchill's time england was entirely that already. started in manchester cca 1800s.
asciilifeform: and real estate racket in the now-so 'valuable' exclusion zones.
asciilifeform: europe was (theoretical) threat, so now it will be converted into exact copy of usa.
mircea_popescu: dude they don't have to be stupid just because they're stupid.
mircea_popescu: same thing with fucking apple, "we'll make tools that make the users dumb but happy". really ? and who will defend you, when the guys who made their users smart but uncomfortable come seeking your head ?
asciilifeform: recall the old observation about how 'communism must expand and destroy healthy tissue, or die' ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the bankruptcy of this approach would be evident to anyone functionally literate. or for that matter vaguely numerate.
mircea_popescu: it has to be mp in #trilema, there's nobody among all those according-to-them important thinkers to have added these twos together.
asciilifeform: notion is that it 'could not possibly matter' whether half of usa can or cannot read, because it isn't as if chimpanzees will learn to make jets.
mircea_popescu: somehow exactly nobody in the idiocratic party stood up at the convention and said "the reason we couldn't get our girl elected is that for 30 years while we had the resources, we squandered them on sucking black dick instead of spending them on whips for the same blacks"
asciilifeform: folx who think their 'mandate of heaven' is a permanent fixture of the universe.
mircea_popescu: you don't fucking want to gain approval in the herd at the cost of diminishing herd quality. who the fuck runs a herd like this!
mircea_popescu: somehow the idiocy of self-hat-stealing is never evident. and it's not just a matter of politics. single-wife marriages are generally exercises in "trying to keep the woman as stupid as possible". why, exactly ? not like she's not your woman, if you make her dumb who the fuck is going to defend you when you run into a guy with a dozen women and a fleet of battleships ?
asciilifeform: phf: dog training for people, aha.
mircea_popescu: yes, but it also produces a 90% majority of people who nevertheless can't "influence the elections"
phf: the whole point of "no child left" is to skew literacy rates through standardized multiple choice. "by the end of this course you will recognize the words dog, cat and food. this will also be in the test"
mircea_popescu: o look, the wikipedia article on "white flight" manages to somehow be all about "environmental racism" and other bullshit.
asciilifeform: dunno, under 30 the rotgut hasn't kicked in yet.
mircea_popescu: and it also hides the fact that half of those under 30 aren't qualified to be dressed in public under the "one in three" all ages bs.
asciilifeform: this btw is very low bar. it means: they cannot read even street sign.
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, "A Robert Emery 2007 report found that about one-third of Washington residents are functionally illiterate, compared to a national rate of about one in five."
asciilifeform: this led to cries of 'oh noez, racists retaking their historic motherland from diversefolx' etc.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: bureaucrat caste swelled under obummer, while the train system declined. so a decision was made to clear out some 'habitable' zones for'em in dc.
asciilifeform: (there are ads everywhere re 'we will help you get to the polls!' etc)
mircea_popescu: but it was under 50% white in 2011 for the first time, mind.
asciilifeform: fwiw the practice is conspicuous enough to be visible to the naked eye.
mircea_popescu: there is some substance to what you say in the sense that it gains like 10k per year.