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mircea_popescu: it
takes more cognition
to go from pottery
to desktop nrm
than
to go from desktop nrm
to
that sort of parallel computation.
mircea_popescu: i dunno how
to meaningfully discuss it in
terms of
time, but i am willing
to bet anything
that
the leap between $current-situation and $quantum-computing is larger not just
than
the alchemy-to-cyclotron gap, but actually larger
than all extant science.
mircea_popescu: for
the same money "we have"
the process whereby glass can be rendered
transparent or opaque
through recrystalization
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform how exactly do you propose
the spin valve is related
to
the "qubits" business ?
mircea_popescu: because no, excitation levels aren't "quantum" in
the sense contemplated here.
mircea_popescu: there isn't even a measuring
tool ; we have nfi if any observed effect is even anything.
mircea_popescu: we even have a multitude of strong statements of impossibility all converging
towards a hearty "fuck you" located at
the core of
this concept
mircea_popescu: meanwhile
the problem with quantum computing is in
the fucking name. we have NO
tools
to do quantum work with. none. we've never heard of one existing, we can't conceive how one'd even work, if it did, which it doesn't, because it doesn't exist.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i hold
they are not, for
the following reason :
the nonsense of contained cold fusion rests on mechanical problems, ie,
the plasma expands and
therefore cools
too fast. at least we have SOME
TOOLS
to do mechanical work with. like you know, a fulcrum. perhaps
the plasma could be put in a fulcrum somehow ? or maybe with cogs ? dunno, should at least investigate.
mircea_popescu: im hard pressed
to deliberately compose something more autistically idiotic.
mircea_popescu: really, bitch,
they're gonna do what you want ? because why.
mircea_popescu: the notion of "quantum computing" is possibly
the most idiotic
thing on
the
table
today.
mircea_popescu: you've not been following along,
there's a department of us army intelligentsia which is putting
together an anally insertable quantum computer out of 2T and 0.001 kelvin
mircea_popescu: dude huy-something from
the us-still-thinks-it-matters dept
told me ima get it in my wristwatch!
mircea_popescu: some other empire will have
to do
that,
this one seems
to cap out at plastic 200W electric driller
a111: Logged on 2017-01-25 12:13 mircea_popescu: o right, also need a 2T field on at all
times.
mircea_popescu: ode, design, and
technical datum would likely be further controlled by classification at
the
TOP SECRET level with some kind of Alternate Compensatory Control Measure specific
to QC and QCW."
mircea_popescu: AI
to power unauthorized access against foreign state and non-state actors,
then both code and design could be interpreted as defense items.
Then it could fall under
Title 50 of US Code, appear on
the United States Munitions List, Category XVII (Classified Articles,
Technical Data, and Defense Services Not Otherwise Enumerated) and
therefore be subject
the Arms Export Control Act. Once under DoD control
those examples of QC c
mircea_popescu: "Currently, one mechanism
the DoD has at its disposal domestically is Department of Homeland Security Presidential Directive 7 (protecting infrastructure deemed critical
to National Security). If
the most immediate application of QC is harvesting foreign government secrets by breaking intercepted data of its classical encryption
then
the QCD itself clearly falls under HSPD 7. Another option is
that if QC were
to be used with
mircea_popescu: anyway, check him out, everyone wants his porn industry
to be "the reliable bridge" between "pure STEM R&D" and "free market consumerism". everyone's a
tindr, getting
the weird shy boys in
the slimy wet bed of expectant females, dontchakno. hurr durr an' a bottle o' dross.
mircea_popescu: as a bonus, ofcourse, hitachi pretty much owns neodymium magnets, and china pretty much owns everything
to do with all
the other rare earths also.
mircea_popescu: (the "strongest magnet in
teh werld"
title goes
to something in
the 20-30
T range ; it cost millions
to build, it
takes six oxen
to drag around so on)
mircea_popescu: imagine
that, mass produced consumer items doing a magnetic flux density of 2
tesla!
mircea_popescu: but jay b huwieler ain't got no
time
to read
the fucking article he's linked
the (horrible) summary of, nor
to understand wtf maintaining a 2T field costs, or for
that matter milikelvin
temperatures. fuck
that, "now ensures
that existing manufacturing facilities and processes can be more-easily upgraded
to mass-produce quantum computational devices (QCD), in
turn ostensibly reducing
the
time-to-market estimate for enterprise
mircea_popescu: principally what it does is
that it requires intricate production and
then
to be kept < 0.001 kelvin and such wonders.
mircea_popescu: anyway,
https://archive.is/0yq1G is
the actual published item if anyone cares.
tl;dr : dorks aware of which side bread is buttered created a silicone lattice with captive phosphorus on a plane, put wires on
top and bottom and can now pump electrons into
the so captured phosphorus.
this DOES SOMETHING (tm).
mircea_popescu: this comes from phys.org by
the way, if anyone was about
to
take
that mfa seriously.
mircea_popescu: "In
the
team's conceptual design,
they have moved from a one-dimensional array of qubits, positioned along a single line,
to a
two-dimensional array, positioned on a plane
that is far more
tolerant
to errors.
This qubit layer is "sandwiched" in a
three-dimensional architecture, between
two layers of wires arranged in a grid."
mircea_popescu: anyone wanna bet
the only
time we'll ever hear of any of
those involved is when either
the youthful dorks finally obtain
the coveted (if meaningless) SCIENTIA
title, or else when
the
two older farmhand looking idiots finally get
their scientia-cum-laurels-and-hitler's-own-dinerfork-buttplug certificates ?
mircea_popescu: "The great
thing about
this work, and architecture, is
that it gives us an endpoint. We now know exactly what we need
to do in
the international race
to get
there." <<
the international race! endpoint!
mircea_popescu: "From left
to right Dr Matthew House, Sam Hile (seated), Scientia Professor Sven Rogge and Scientia Professor Michelle Simmons of
the ARC Centre of Excellence for Quantum Computation and Communication
Technology at UNSW. Credit: Deb Smith, UNSW Australia" << fucking imagine
that.
mircea_popescu: silicone is used in electronics because of specific properties of its crystal lattice (it acts as a good substrate for dopants, resulting in nonlinear circuit elements).
there's exactly nothing
that recommends it over something like aerogel, or someone's stained
tie, for
the purpose of "quantum computing"
mircea_popescu: how
the fuck does
this pass someone's filter ? so
the dorks
trying
to push a scam decided
the one
thing
that'd best improve
the flavour of credibility would be spurious relation
to existing practice, so now it's SILICON quantum computers, and you buy
this, and even underline it of your own volition, as if it were a
thing just because you wish it
to be ?
mircea_popescu: "While
the last
two decades have seen unambiguous experimental progress developing
the science of Quantum Computation,
there has never been a feasible, physical architecture developed upon which
to scale-up
the actual Computer itself. Not until
today. Further,
the success of specifically a ~silicon~ chip architecture now ensures
that existing manufacturing facilities and processes can be more-easily upgraded" (emphasis his).
mircea_popescu: "October 2015, scientists at
the University of New South Wales announced
the successful design of a single-atom qubit 3D silicon chip architecture, making significant progress
toward building a full-scale, operational Quantum Computer."
mircea_popescu: anyway in other news it seems historical necessity is prevailing,
trump is gonna forge an alliance with russia over everyone's objections.
trinque: it's pretty cool; when
the grocery stores close
these people will last what, 3 wks?
mircea_popescu: if i had
to order out in
this shithole i'd have shot someone. did i ever
tell you about
the "sushi ya!" order which showed up
THREE HOURS later ? idiots were VERY surprised nobody's
taking
their bs.
mircea_popescu slathers even more beouf salad on
top of lovingly homemade sourdough. you know
that's real mayo, made by hand out eggs yes ? and
that
the womenz cook every day or else
there's
terrible consequences ? o look,
there's half a pot of delicious soup! maybe i'll order some pie. which means - i say make pie,
they make pie.
mircea_popescu: now we understand how
the pacific islanders invented what later came
to be known as us sizes.
davout: usually ends up in
their fucking fried noodles
davout: protip if one ever
tries
to order food
there: ask what
they have, don't waste your
time
trying
to order fancy shit like "a burger", "a wrap" or any other nonsense
davout: most useful word of
the kreol morisyen language: "pena"
davout: ben_vulpes: nice,
the colors burn my eyes, but nice nonetheless
ben_vulpes: and with
that i'm going back
to
the rocket stove
ben_vulpes: even has search, although a very naive postgres full-text, not
the "omfg exactly like grep" asciilifeform made phf build
davout: looks like
the log's not werking
mircea_popescu: well if you're patient enough im penning a reply
to your latest comment so we can continue from
there
nicknaem: you know, I agree on many
things you write
nicknaem: I must say,
the not naming myself
thing kind of got under my skin
ben_vulpes: eheh in other dependent hacks, dog wanted
to destroy
things
the child was
throwing, so i gave
the child a lemon
to
throw around. dog will chase, but not retrieve
the lemon.
shinohai: danielpbarron: I have an archive i can get you later
this evening, i moved
this morning and setting up nw
mircea_popescu: heh not
the first
time someone lies on exploit analysis
ben_vulpes: dunno
that he ever formally undertook it
ben_vulpes: danielpbarron: i'll root around for mine later
today
danielpbarron: oh, from who can I get a copy of mp-wp ? my blog box seems
to have crapped out once and for all. figure it's a good excuse
to migrate
to something better
ben_vulpes: based on historical record alone it is very unlikely but i put
the chances
that mircea_popescu dramatically underestimates
the scale and scope of insanity running amok in
the states at ~5%
mircea_popescu: the way
things shape up,
this current nazism is actually a lot more insane
than
the original german version. holy shit, what, you want
to kill ~men~ ?!
mircea_popescu: irrespective of
the considerations pof
the case, what remais is
that random "intelligence analyst"
thinks army should be dedicated
to
the rooting out of manhood.