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ericbot: Logged on 2019-11-07 11:26:57 mircea_popescu: lobbes, an unexpected point occurs. do you have
a chatlog eater tool ?
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-07 22:02:48 lobbes:
http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-11-07#1950130 << I do not. There exist both the irssi2tmsr and znc2tmsr patches to the stanlogger. In said logger, both of them convert logs to
a format that is then fed to the postgres database. Conceivable to just make something similar, though, that would feed them into
a mysql database
lobbes: on second thought, I guess redundancy doesn't necessarily follow from "more convenient to run
a logger". Okay, I restate my second merit to simply be: "convenience" (for what that is worth)
lobbes: another merit being redundancy; if you run
a blog, you can run
a log.
lobbes: on the subject of "blog-logger" in general, I do see merits. For e.g., as
a matter of course the issue of echoing log lines will need to be resolved. If that resolution ends up leveraging the server-side selection, then this opens the door to the quoting articles ~in general~ into IRC
ericbot: Logged on 2019-11-07 11:26:57 mircea_popescu: lobbes, an unexpected point occurs. do you have
a chatlog eater tool ?
lobbes:
http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-11-07#1950130 << I do not. There exist both the irssi2tmsr and znc2tmsr patches to the stanlogger. In said logger, both of them convert logs to
a format that is then fed to the postgres database. Conceivable to just make something similar, though, that would feed them into
a mysql database
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-06 12:43:55 hanbot: mircea_popescu i browse, but haven't strictly "kept up". i can spend
a day or two getting there tho', what's up?
mircea_popescu: they make the same ~500
a year bulgarians make, half
a ro wage.
BingoBoingo: I think I've convinced
a few people that "stability" is why they make more than Europeans while being poorer since... WTF can they buy?
mircea_popescu: really hard to run
a 40 thieves' cave where the lesser theives don't steal anything
mircea_popescu: as it turns out, modern economy takes 3 women teams at
a minimum.
mircea_popescu: not even so much
a matter of navigation, more like loading / pushing / unloading / reloading carts.
mircea_popescu: but, i must say, two-girl shopping trips are
a delight. i just watch and nod while the people of walmart look from my switch to my bitch an' from my foods to my whores.
BingoBoingo: Just returned from getting groceries and
a VGA to HDMI cable to get hardware specs outta the servers for prospective buyers
BingoBoingo: diana_coman: ty, will see if error.log reveals anything at
a glance
mircea_popescu: incidentally, when i do that, we're looking at
a solid eight years aka 3k articles or so. it'll be an insane log day. i intend to publish them 15s apart or something.
mircea_popescu: lobbes, an unexpected point occurs. do you have
a chatlog eater tool ?
diana_coman: I'll go and talk to those guys to see if I can get
a server with them.
mircea_popescu: it'll prolly come out as
a much greater addition to the world than the remainder of this discussion.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman, nah, i'm with you, forget about it. ima go take
a shit
mircea_popescu: diana_coman, what fucking ideals ever demand the breakage of
a unusable cvasi-blog ?
mircea_popescu: in which case, should get
a 8+ core amd of some kind, 32+gb and
a coupla disks, raidless ok, and then review for upgrade in what,
a few months ?
diana_coman: BingoBoingo: I had the "stale page" thing on your blog ~10 times and only now (after letting it be for
a while funnily enough) it went through
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: review as in finally being able to actually benchmark the server and get some concrete idea as to what it needs ; as
a result it might be
a new machine, yes.
mircea_popescu: on trilema/s xmlrpc.php as
a private fix (which still dun work correctly, for some yet undiscovered reason spaces get eaten), but anyways, select should output no empty e.
ossabot: Logged on 2018-02-05 20:57:25 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo phf trinque diana_coman so i'm thinking of basically getting
a dozen amd fx-8350s (because just 125w compared to say fx-9590s 220) racked in u2 mbs (say maybe ASRock 970M PRO3 ? i thinkl that fits in 2u neh ?) with 64 gb ram each and
a coupla ssds ? any complaints/suggestions ?
mircea_popescu: the original trb work suffered from
a massive aglomeration of -ev workforce.
mircea_popescu: not that i blame the pm, there wasn't one. but the fundamental reason why "adding more manpower to
a late project only makes it later" is that lots and lots of "manpower" is actually -ev.
trinque: the main problem with such
a project is how large it is. there were several folks on just trb, for
a bit anyway.
mircea_popescu: anyways, eventually we'll get
a troop out of new kids ready and able to actually do useful & meaningful shit in computer science, and whatever, the failure of one particular generation won't look that much more remarkable than the string it's part of.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo, you're in absolutely no position to do any of this wtf. aren't you supposed to first find yourself
a job ?
BingoBoingo: trinque: Provided I get it running this time I'll at
a minimum try to get up to XFCE. I'll make and rate
a BingoCuntooExperimenal key for the purpose of something.
mircea_popescu: ie, contemplated os ownership is
a matter of pure committment. what the world is looking for, today as in the days of the venerable bede, and then as the first day, is people. the sort who commit.
trinque: BingoBoingo: I'd be pretty stoked if somebody found the hole for new ebuilds and cut
a vpatch of some useful items
mircea_popescu: anyway, any kind of cuntoo-base for client is
a distant goal anyway, seeing how ... no x
BingoBoingo: trinque: If I do get
a Cuntoo running this weekend, you can expect me to submit Cuntoo-ified versions of my desktop work tools at the speed I port them. Everything I depend on seems to have already been ported to musl based linux distributions. I can't promise doing this fast, but it can be something that would help make
a noob-cuntoo image down the line.
trinque: yeah, it depends on whether you want the item to be
a technical exemplar or an outreach mechanism, or something else
mircea_popescu: indeed why bother make it anything in particular, the market standards are so low... runescape runs in
a java environment that crashes 3 times an hour. steam is fucked beyond your wildest dreams. nothing works in gaming, it's
a joke, there's no competition in any sense.
mircea_popescu: now as to the client, that's
a larger ball of yarn. if i have no serious static goal to contemplate, ima nix decrufting effort, because why bother make it static.
mircea_popescu: i can see baking it on protocuntoo ; with
a view to moving it to cuntoo, ~if cuntoo is
a thing~. if it isn't... no view.
mircea_popescu: the server i'm not so desperately concerned about, because that gets baked once and is good for half
a decade or more. diana_coman reported she has
a running item, so that's... okay.
mircea_popescu: as
a factual matter, stock'll have to be taken, we can't just pretend lalala and keep sending people to do impossible things.
trinque: these, I'd think, would run in
a very simple userland
trinque: at any rate, you run statically compiled gnat items and
a database?
mircea_popescu: paying for the sins of historical tolerance-driven complacency, without
a foundation to foment the environment there's no people to fill the gaps, etcetera.
mircea_popescu: nevertheless, the os portion remains
a major hole in the whole architecture, because w/o os ownership pretty much all our efforts are unsustainable.
BingoBoingo: This weekend I plan to set aside
a solid block of time to give Cuntoo
a fair try, but I am not in any position to claim ownership over anything like an OS. I suspect I'll be more successful than the last time I tried for having unloaded
a huge ball of insanity outta my head in the interim.
mircea_popescu: since you're the ~only one here in
a position to claim ownership of something like an os, i want to know if you want to do so.
BingoBoingo: For the value of the dell badge, I will however make an earnest effort o sell the mod6/TBF server in the local market as
a sorta prop that can go into
a sufficiently deep wifi rack.
BingoBoingo: The reason to place myself as buyer of last resort is to pre-empt later objections that X item located at the ass end of the world has
a concrete value. If it did the objector had the chance to bid.
BingoBoingo: Your chassis is
a bit heavier and deeper than the dulap machines, but it also has the guts of two machines inside.
trinque: cool, if I own those just lmk what shipping costs. I'll gpg
a destination
BingoBoingo: trinque: When alf was here we put one in each hemisphere. It seems you did buy two, but the notes from the period the transaction happened are
a clusterfuck.
trinque: BingoBoingo: as for liquidating my stuff, I wouldn't mind getting
a FG or two out of the deal if it can be swung
trinque: do you recall if I ever bought
a FG from you gents? iirc one wouldn't fit in my chassis, and I forget where we landed.
BingoBoingo: trinque: Are you still inclined to completely write of your server and FUCKGOATS, or do you want me to try to recover some value from it for you and get you
a pair of FUCKGOATS. I don't need an answer immediately, but would prefer one by Monday.
trinque: meanwhile I've been working on
a smaller item based on busybox.
trinque: I don't think it should be considered anything more than
a liferaft
BingoBoingo: I've made it clear to the lawyers I rather don't expect they are solvent enough to collect anything when I win
a suit. I'm more inclined to pass
a bulletproof fraud denuncia to the Fiscalia and let them sort it out.
mircea_popescu: in fact, that alone's
a sufficient winning strategy : tagging stupidity with as much cost as at all possible's all that's really needed.
BingoBoingo: *met with. They've apparently spent much. I've spent little. The outcome is not yet clear, but the outcome space is very narrow with clear forked paths. None of these paths presents
a danger to my continued presence in Uruguay if that's what the future wants me to do.
BingoBoingo: Proposed Pizarro auctions will be published in
a few hours with the aim of firing off auction opening commands Friday. Auction opening prices will be done with the reserve as the coin I, personally, am willing to pay for ownership of the auctioned items and lots of items.
BingoBoingo: DC lists, other opportunities to apprentice myself into
a career, etc
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I'm working on
a plan for #agriculturalsupremacy as
a castle, but its still too raw to present as
a default option on the level of what diana_coman and hanbot can offer.
mircea_popescu: ima just change the current "Nov 04 09:50:24 -ChanServ- [#trilema] To speak here you must be voiced by one of the lords. Talk to asciilifeform , BingoBoingo , diana_coman , hanbot or trinque about it." to
a "see #ossasepia or #hanbot" and call it good
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: ah, I thought she already had hers but mainly aimed at
a different demographic?
hanbot: mircea_popescu i browse, but haven't strictly "kept up". i can spend
a day or two getting there tho', what's up?
mircea_popescu: diana_coman, rather, im thinking
a backup #o might be
a good idea.
mircea_popescu: never, ye hear me people of the future, NEVER take the cows for people. athena made them cows for
a reason.
mircea_popescu: aite. there'll be
a brief excursion in there to get the prod server back up, but yes.
mircea_popescu: it's not, in other worse,
a case of "wait just this short interval, will do new release" etc
mircea_popescu: is the stuff in
a shape you want running publicly as we stand ?
mircea_popescu: getting
a coupla boxes somewhere in the sense of amateurship so dear to the previously tolerated morons is the least of our troubles.
mircea_popescu: or the usual byproduct of the undisturbed existence of "engineer" cunts, ie,
a pile of cvasi-working shitballs ?
ossabot: Logged on 2019-07-21 08:57:32 diana_coman: hm, current vtools still don't handle move of files or what am I missing here? I made
a simple test with moving one file to
a different location and as far as I can see, it's still delete + create, no move
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: not as far as I know; it was always *not done* but always popping up in people's memory as "working"; except every time I wanted to *move*
a file rather than have it del/add, it turned out that ...no.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman, people use all sorta lulz, "encrypted drives" whatever nonsense. it's
a ridiculous state of affairs, but it's what we god, what can we do.
diana_coman: tbh (and possibly outside S.MG's direct scope) I don't get exactly why don't we have already
a command line replacement to gpg, ugh
mircea_popescu: look, practically : either we ask the user to remember
a password, or else we ask the user to secure
a token/
mircea_popescu: NOT that it makes
a difference, the client key will still be there.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-01-13 09:29:50 mircea_popescu: ad interim the draft is, that the client stores all the keys (rsa, serpent, whatever) one per line, the rsa ones in republican format, the rest unspecified as of yet, in
a file called keys.tmsr encrypted by the rsa key of the client.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: we have eucrypt that generates the rsa keys and serpent and all that client and server need; we however do not have (and it was supposedly in discussion/waiting/etc)
a clear way to store them securely; let me dig log ref
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: ah, I see; I suppose the thing is that cuntoo is currently
a server-side system really (no X)
mircea_popescu: so i suppose this is the first actionable we unveil here : ima want an estimate on
a) how long to divorce dev server from cs ; and b) how long to move client cs on cuntoo.