asciilifeform: mats: 'rigol' ds1102d

asciilifeform: !b 2 ✂︎

asciilifeform: ^ linus understood that language is a people-filter, just like gpg etc

asciilifeform: 'In other words: the choice of C is the only sane choice. I know Miles Bader jokingly said "to piss you off", but it's actually true. I've come to the conclusion that any programmer that would prefer the project to be in C++ over C is likely a programmer that I really *would* prefer to piss off, so that he doesn't come and screw up any project I'm involved with.'

asciilifeform: incidentally, classic: http://harmful.cat-v.org/software/c++/linus

asciilifeform: http://people.cs.umass.edu/~emery/hoard/hoard-documentation.html

asciilifeform: anybody here ever try 'hoard' ?

asciilifeform: danielpbarron: reminds me of the centerfolds in knuth's aop.

asciilifeform: ('buildroot' is the ubiquitous automaton for baking small embedded linux boxen)

asciilifeform: danielpbarron, anyone else having trouble with cross-compilation - 'buildroot' will build, among other necessary things, the toolchain.

asciilifeform believed, at one point, that the existence of braindamaged programming languages is not a total evil, as they draw mentally defective folks away from actual programming. but, after reading, e.g., the work of the 'power rangers', - is not so sure.

asciilifeform: (the latter have rs232 logic levels. will cook a gadget that expects 0/5v)

asciilifeform: even if your machine has an actual serial port.

asciilifeform has ^

asciilifeform: you will need one of these http://bb.osmocom.org/trac/wiki/Hardware/CP210xTutorial or equivalent.

asciilifeform: signal is ttl level, not rs232 though

asciilifeform: at the minimum, you will need to solder 3 contacts (rx, tx, gnd)

asciilifeform: (see old thread for where/what/how)

asciilifeform: danielpbarron: very hard to do serious dev work w/out console

asciilifeform: danielpbarron: repopulate the ports in at least one

asciilifeform has two 'pogos' but one is virginal and sitting in crate; it is to be used to test the auto-deflorator (flash virgin unit by plugging into deflowered one)

asciilifeform: also that thing's running on a titanic x86 box

asciilifeform: why there

asciilifeform: 280?

asciilifeform: change constant to something reasonable.

asciilifeform: anyone who wants to try bastard, can make a temporary copy of tree merged up to 5.3.1 and apply the skull'n'crossbone patch.

asciilifeform: actively pumping.

asciilifeform: 204139.

asciilifeform: ^ who said ?

asciilifeform: rip google.

asciilifeform: ;;google unfeature anti-feature

asciilifeform: ;;google unfeature antifeature

asciilifeform: it is really defined by 'unfeatures.'

asciilifeform: re: gentoo:

asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: 0.9.0.3... ...i thought this would be a good training wheels program before tackling 0.5.3 << the recent turdballs are considerably gnarlier than 0.5.3, and have rather peculiar behaviours of their own. avoid.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu, davout: look through orphanage for % of blocks more than 10% off the difficulty << interesting idea

asciilifeform: nm then

asciilifeform: or would that require actual work

asciilifeform: also, can that thing cough up static html in tarball for offline viewing ?

asciilifeform: aha

asciilifeform: jurov: any chance of switching the lxr to the merged tree? the win32isms etc. grate on the eye.

asciilifeform: danielpbarron: didja get it built ?

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: at present, i've swap switched off

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: in principle, anything -can- - can allow it to swap and destroy ssd rather less slowly

asciilifeform: anyone know if these cheap shit chinese dlsr lenses are good enough << can't speak for the dslr ones, but chinese c-mounts (microscope, in my case) are entirely acceptable

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo appreciates ... serious effort to make a 128 MB pogoplug is seriously iterating in a productive << it has yet to be established for certain that this thing can be a reasonable node

asciilifeform: go can be statically compiled can it not << it has a runtime.

asciilifeform: gotta go, will be back in a few hrs.

asciilifeform: expects exactly empty start

asciilifeform: remember that this is not a 'makefile' and it's brick-stupid

asciilifeform: as in, run with just the tarballs and the required empty dir.

asciilifeform: remove all the intermediate crap and post output from fresh run

asciilifeform: ^ you don't have it?

asciilifeform: ./distfiles/boost_1_52_0.tar.bz2: Cannot open: No such file or directory

asciilifeform: bdb cache?

asciilifeform: as soon as loads even one block.

asciilifeform: ^ essentially, exhausts ram on boot

asciilifeform: REORGANIZE

asciilifeform: received block 00000000000003c67a87

asciilifeform: ProcessMessage(block, 72417 bytes) FAILED

asciilifeform: bitcoin in ProcessMessage()

asciilifeform: Db::get: Cannot allocate memory

asciilifeform: EXCEPTION: 11DbException

asciilifeform: ************************

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: but it reliably dies with:

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: had typo when restart of wedged pogo, it actually does restart

asciilifeform: post output.

asciilifeform: what do you get if removed 'sudo' ?

asciilifeform: 'ourlibs'

asciilifeform: did you create the latter ?

asciilifeform: that's a sure symptom that it was unable to install to specified local dir

asciilifeform: and should very certainly not need sudo-anything

asciilifeform: like a snail.

asciilifeform: which means, 'all that's mine i carry with me'

asciilifeform: it's a deterministic build

asciilifeform: recipe -specifically- calls for local install

asciilifeform: same for boost

asciilifeform: instead of local dir as specified in recipe

asciilifeform: you probably installed bdb systemwide

asciilifeform: danielpbarron: ahahahaha

asciilifeform: how?

asciilifeform: second - were you using the build script exactly as given ?

asciilifeform: first of all, has to be armv5

asciilifeform: what cross-compiler ?

asciilifeform: danielpbarron: what were you building on ?

asciilifeform: clever bugger.

asciilifeform: bastard: 'possibly lost'

asciilifeform: classical: 'definitely lost'

asciilifeform: compare with: http://dpaste.com/1T8RSCJ << classical

asciilifeform: http://dpaste.com/231ZHHC

asciilifeform: in other news,

asciilifeform: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=42&cpage=1#comment-2746 << quitting mathematica dope

asciilifeform: aha

asciilifeform: quitting - was agony.

asciilifeform: i've been there. was a die-hard user of 'mathematica' for some years

asciilifeform: the solution to turdlangs is, to crib from clinton era anti-dope slogan, 'be smart - don't start' ☟︎

asciilifeform: and if interests of vendor conflict with yours in any way, the conflict will be subtly and perfidiously resolved in favour of vendor ☟︎

asciilifeform: 'golang' is in the same league as apple's 'darwin' unix kernel. a whole zoological kingdom of pseudo-open, where, yes, theoretically you can read source, but it is not -for you- ☟︎

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: re: google and 'open'

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: see thread from hour ago