asciilifeform: punkman is correct. alert reader award.

asciilifeform: mike_c: that's 0.5.3 ?!

asciilifeform: -connect=ADDRESS limits you to that node and only it, alive or dead

asciilifeform: phoundation's bitcoind does keep a cache of known nodes, it appears. but still uses dns seeds and hardcoded ip list for initial warmup.

asciilifeform: mike_c: iirc you can only offer one seed in the conf as of 0.5.3 ?

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: think about it

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it's a critical moving part (on warmup only, really)

asciilifeform: PeterL: iirc, that's already in there

asciilifeform: anybody who can sit down between me & the ircd, can feed in arbitrary crap

asciilifeform: mine (with dns seds nixed) ends up finding them on irc.

asciilifeform: when 0.5.3 switches on, it looks for some nodes

asciilifeform: actually, given that most of the hard seeds are dead, the irc mechanism is the primary bootstrap.

asciilifeform: think about it. isomorphic.

asciilifeform: the irc thing is a chokepoint. in my head it counts as 1 hardcoded node, really

asciilifeform: but we can't zap both it and the dns seeder (already submitted zap for the latter) without a fresh list of seeds

asciilifeform: and, much as it is intriguing that so many nodes still hang out on irc bitcoin-xx channel, that thing doesn't belong in the RI

asciilifeform: so people are going to download this file by IP address << can come straight from the fuhrer's arsehole, so long as it's signed by genuine foundation

asciilifeform: dns is not only a thin and centralized neck to squeeze, it is controlled almost entirely by usg

asciilifeform: dns-based << i nominated it for death

asciilifeform: understand that node only needs to find 1 working node on the list, to spin up

asciilifeform: i imagine ben_vulpes et al will post pgp-signed lists of working nodes now and again

asciilifeform: separate file << was the plan already

asciilifeform: ^ it still has hardcoded seeds

asciilifeform: or possibly i was mistaken, https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/7b879d3493e5b51c60522f71657941bd62e29334/contrib/seeds/README.md

asciilifeform: the_scourge: i occasionally use it as a healthier, low-tar substitute for perl

asciilifeform: PeterL: separate config is in the works. but i did have the thought that ought to see what ought to go in it first

asciilifeform: the_scourge: if you want to port fortran or cobol to it, who can stop you. if you expect the design to somehow accomodate your perversion - sorry

asciilifeform: PeterL: having hardcoded seeds is, in my opnion, a silly way of doing things << what do you suggest as an alternative? how is the proggy to know what exists anywhere without a hardcoded something or other

asciilifeform: the_scourge: only in python

asciilifeform: PeterL: the phoundation's git does not appear to have the hardcoded seeds any longer. when they were thrown out? no idea

asciilifeform: PeterL: i for one am a little surprised that -any- of them work

asciilifeform: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-February/000043.html << guess what

asciilifeform: trinque: gentoo is as good as operator. you can excise the crud permanently and from everything running.

asciilifeform: dnsseed snip should work for -any-, as it only concerns net.cpp

asciilifeform: all you need is a reasonable linux

asciilifeform: just build the damn thing. not that hard to do

asciilifeform: not like it costs so much more to print the word 'trillion' on bill

asciilifeform: lol, why not 50 trillion

asciilifeform: conference << does it include silverware, to wear on head?

asciilifeform: 'bonafide' corp << the 'pretend #b-a doesn't exist, never existed, wouldn't matter if did exit' stratagem chugs along.

asciilifeform: (see s.nsa broadcast!)

asciilifeform: but i do occasionally leave the house

asciilifeform: not moving in the sense of changing address

asciilifeform: lol it's a portable

asciilifeform: putting this here for anyone who actually gives a damn re: the numbers, timing.

asciilifeform: it'll be down for about ~1h each leg of trip.

asciilifeform: bastard node

asciilifeform: unfortunately the timing of that experiment will soon be ruined, it is running on a gigantic portable that will be going into a knapsack in a few min.

asciilifeform: 245870, incidentally.

asciilifeform: how many pushers of whatever political 'pill' can write one coherent paragraph re: what djerassi did.

asciilifeform: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-01-31/carl-djerassi-chemist-behind-birth-control-pill-dies-at-91

asciilifeform: rip, carl djerassi.

asciilifeform: simulated annealing...

asciilifeform adjusts hair shirt

asciilifeform: what's next, suggest doing less dope when poor? less drink? lol

asciilifeform: now get thee to the airstrip.

asciilifeform: punkman: nothing whatsoever. the recipe is complete, total, perfect.

asciilifeform: punkman: see guide to flying, same thread.

asciilifeform: 238389.

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: that'd be the machinist's equivalent of a 'fleshlight'

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: like machining.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: needs floor space.

asciilifeform: психушка!

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: sop in ussr

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: the old taser.

asciilifeform: no, in some schools of thought, one is supposed to emplace them in orbits

asciilifeform: in at least one text

asciilifeform: they posit that the marks should become long-term orbiters of the operator, somehow

asciilifeform: as envisioned by the practicants!

asciilifeform: 'pikup'

asciilifeform: (well, rather, sell you a book that's worth something)

asciilifeform: incidentally, anyone ever wonder what kind of brain damage is necessary to think that someone will sell you a book on how to win the ultimate zero-sum game?

asciilifeform: use suit jacket as ailerons.

asciilifeform: dude really, it is very easy to fly. just bend your arms into an effective lift surface, right angle of attack, and fart really hard. ☟︎

asciilifeform: no, did not actually do this!

asciilifeform: (see rest of that thread)

asciilifeform: mhc.

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-04-2014#634660 ☝︎

asciilifeform: e.g.,

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: understand, -everybody- wants a wunderwaffen.

asciilifeform: more of less 1 sentence summary of the sane parts ^

asciilifeform: i'm told that american kidz with more money than sense, still travel to russia to get this.

asciilifeform: 1+ yr of wheelchair.

asciilifeform: they break yer legs and stretch in a specially made frame.

asciilifeform: but being tall, which someone CAN NOT get, <<<< ahahha. soviet science winz again. had a process for -actually- growing taller. ☟︎

asciilifeform: most are rebrandings of something earlier.

asciilifeform: one of the facts known to all dedicated students of 'psychoceramics' (study of crackpots! what else, lol) is that genuinely new idiocies are invented quite infrequently

asciilifeform: a sort of rebranded hypnosis/mesmerism

asciilifeform: i think it was

asciilifeform: neuro-linguistic-programming

asciilifeform: it started, iirc, there.

asciilifeform: book is supposed to help you 'cheat' by summoning devils ^H^H^H^H^H^H psy-programming

asciilifeform: don't need book, for this

asciilifeform regards 'pickup' literature as a very low kind of sc4mz0ry, like shady cancer cures pitched to the desperately ill

asciilifeform did not invent this particular flavour of crackpottery, but has seen a good sampling thereof

asciilifeform: in the words of tlp, 'if you're reading it, it's for you'

asciilifeform: except for the obvious implication that - why is the reader reading?

asciilifeform: aha. the books actually take the trouble to mention both

asciilifeform: sumthinglikethat

asciilifeform: and such feats of fish-catching are not of interest to the serious scholars.