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asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i gotta ask, did the breaker blow ?
mod6: mircea_popescu: to her credit indeed. poor lady.
mod6: mircea_popescu: your lady's hand looked ghastly. she should get to slap the first born of all of the industrial leaders in .ar.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu's scheme answers 'E infers key, floods A with megatonne of shit' with 'A renegotiates key with all of A's peers via magical channel that E cannot saturate with shit'
asciilifeform: and mircea_popescu's favorite rhetorical device is 'this is not relevant.' hey, it's the man's own blog, who am i to say that he has to consider my observations relevant. but this nonsense won't keep rainwater out of a tent, much less ft meade.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu's answer appears to be 'lala can't hear you.'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: pong
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu nails it.
a111: Logged on 2016-09-09 15:12 asciilifeform: it is unfortunately also one of the weak points in mircea_popescu's original sketch, as an enemy who turns up a 'for' binding signature can make an attribution of station ownership.
a111: Logged on 2016-09-09 14:57 mircea_popescu: ok this is pretty scandalous.
asciilifeform: and anyone who - like mircea_popescu earlier - states that 'but all-comer will ~not~ be able to request a challenge' is stuck explaining why not.
asciilifeform: earlier in thread, mircea_popescu pointed out - correctly - that signature is not the only form of cryptoauthentication, and that there is also challenge-response, a la deedbot etc.
asciilifeform: it is unfortunately also one of the weak points in mircea_popescu's original sketch, as an enemy who turns up a 'for' binding signature can make an attribution of station ownership. ☟︎
mod6: thanks mircea_popescu
shinohai: mircea_popescu may have inhaled toxic black smoke from poorly manufactured Argentine electronics mod6
a111: Logged on 2016-09-09 10:50 mircea_popescu: incidentally asciilifeform mod6 trinque et all : what would you think about adding a p2p client to V ? it'd be like a daemon which listens for connections from peers and maintains lists of pressables.
mod6: <+asciilifeform> http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-09#1538037 << lel what has mircea_popescu been drinking...? << It is an intersting thought; a distributed V, which rails against the complaints of "omfg another centralized piece of equipment!!11" ☝︎
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160909/#23 << yes mod6 but to clarify : "one button" refers to the situation where the user already has a trusted copy of V, and a .sig directory populated as per his taste. these are part of the definition of identity, and going forward can and should be assumed present. << Sounds fair. Thanks for outlining this.
asciilifeform: how did mircea_popescu even pick up this kink
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: CoroCoro Comic - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CoroCoro_Comic>; # corocoro hashtag on Twitter: <https://twitter.com/hashtag/corocoro>; Saturday: Pokémon Sun & Moon - CoroCoro Reveals + Zygarde ...: <http://www.serebii.net/news/2016/11-June-2016.shtml>
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: Cora Cora Restaurant: <http://www.coraperu.com/home.html>; Cora Cora - 193 Photos & 143 Reviews - Latin American - 162 ...: <https://www.yelp.com/biz/cora-cora-west-hartford>; Cora Cora Restaurant | Facebook: <https://www.facebook.com/Cora-Cora-Restaurant-129413390878/>
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu is posting from time warp or wat.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: copper with no strain relief will harden and snap just like any other metal.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: also i must sadly point out that aluminum wire is a forced mistake -- copper price.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: even in usa they banned
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: wire is silver-coloured ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it isn't the shitmetal in this case.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i will inform you with great joy that apple power adapters die in this identical manner.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-09#1538218 << btw i can tell from mircea_popescu's photo why it exploded. ☝︎
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: true..
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: probably when the prometeus dude stole the fire?
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: how about i (an nsa employee, say) just make a filter which grabs all observed gossipd traffic (packet timing or w/e, and if it's an actually new transmission protocol, then supreme joy is me) and send it for further analysis. i shall assume that while it's not certain which messages are legit and which are not, the offending t3rr0rist group is too lazy to transmit proper false positives to provide noise,
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: statistical models? sure, no *guarantee*.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu-signed vpatch can be made known over whatever medium. shortwave, if he likes.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: aha
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: you signed vpatch. can as readily broadcast it via gossip as via fleanode etc.
asciilifeform: see, right now we have 'cheat' in the sense that fleanode allows mircea_popescu to manually control access to deedbot .
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: sure, that i admit.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: pull the key. which it effectively does with the `register` command
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-09: [12:37:26] <asciilifeform> mircea_popescu: deedbot is not a working model of 1packetron omfg
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-09: [12:36:29] <mircea_popescu> except a working model of 1 is already both deployed and theoretically understood, as described above.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> but, to briefly rewind, << and following. static linking, not dynamic linking. your "the mechanism described in mircea_popescu's sketch." symbol is not acceptabru.
asciilifeform: other - is the mechanism described in mircea_popescu's sketch.
asciilifeform: deedbot and mircea_popescu in this example.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: deedbot is not a working model of 1packetron omfg
asciilifeform: i fully grasp what mircea_popescu wants to accomplish here, but it does not work with his stated mechanism.
asciilifeform: a gossipd link of degree 1 ( 'private message' in mircea_popescu's version of the sketch ) operates on signed matter
asciilifeform: i did draw this picture once, mircea_popescu .
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if we crash over an island, and have no rifle, it is still unwise to bolt-shit-to-side of the imagined rifle we lack together.
a111: Logged on 2016-09-09 10:50 mircea_popescu: incidentally asciilifeform mod6 trinque et all : what would you think about adding a p2p client to V ? it'd be like a daemon which listens for connections from peers and maintains lists of pressables.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-09#1538037 << lel what has mircea_popescu been drinking...? ☝︎
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: yeah, agreed, will remove!
a111: Logged on 2016-09-08 18:49 mircea_popescu: gavin is ~a used cumsock.
a111: Logged on 2016-09-08 18:37 mircea_popescu: at least hungarians know they've been cursed with stupid.
a111: Logged on 2016-09-08 17:14 PeterL: speaking of books, mircea_popescu have you read "The Prince" by Machiavelli? I have been reading it and for some reason it made me think of you (though I expect you would read it in the original Italian?)
a111: Logged on 2016-09-09 02:09 mircea_popescu: Framedragger can we stop having this "multiline" bs unless specifically togled on somehow ?
a111: Logged on 2016-09-09 02:11 mircea_popescu: why does make run a v anywya ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: what's a bbc faggot
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i think boolcrap and i knew that chick in meatspace.
a111: Logged on 2016-09-08 21:58 mircea_popescu: wait, the clim authoritative spec exists as a html ?!
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> " then navigate to pressed dir, " << i mean. << ah, ok yeah one ~might~ be able to do that. not an expert on make tho.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: at one point we had 3 (then 2) quite separate types of builder.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160908/#1160 << so basically we got v running twice ? << yeah, which wont do. after my monologue earlier, I have a hunch that I might be able to get it down to a single press.
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-08: [19:19:02] <mircea_popescu> yeah but the wrong one.
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-08: [19:19:02] <mircea_popescu> yeah but the wrong one.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 72.83.9.184
a111: Logged on 2016-09-07 21:35 mircea_popescu: (apparently a badly balanced something or the other by steve yegge - you know, the supposedly notable derp behind http://steve-yegge.blogspot.com2006/04/lisp-is-not-acceptable-lisp.html and a whole load of java, ruby etc)
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: secret bot is an irc user in a channel which no-one knows to be a bot (or a bot of particular use). scriba also has that kind of hostmask (unaffiliated/framedragger/bot/scriba) but everyone knows what scriba is for.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu had entire article about subj
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: Goiânia accident - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goi%25C3%25A2nia_accident>; The Radiological Accident in Goiânia - IAEA Publications: <http://www-pub.iaea.org/MTCD/publications/PDF/Pub815_web.pdf>; Goiânia incident Brasil - YouTube: <https://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3Dfh-VqehmgCQ>
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: (search <word>) -- Searches for <word> in the current configuration variables.
asciilifeform: but if mircea_popescu was speaking of 'making up hilarious horseshit about north kr', yes, was american sport stating in '50s.
a111: Logged on 2014-03-05 02:44 mircea_popescu: bad wolf busts into snow white's cavern, offers her a simple deal :
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if u.s. lost 400 mn heads, you will have a gaping black hole in which ~80 mn. randos will get immediately sucked in. or the like.
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-08: [13:03:15] <mircea_popescu> as seen yesterday
asciilifeform: soooo mircea_popescu knows of a case of indian suffering smallpox 2+ times ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: fwiw i skipped (well, quit ~2 wks in) crypto class in school.
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-08: [13:03:15] <mircea_popescu> as seen yesterday
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it is the only practical alternative to 'electron moves because allah's farts push it'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: eh, placebocin worx great.
asciilifeform: i can already picture mircea_popescu as ww1 officer. green cloud rolls over trench, grunts coughing out their lungs, 'stop being obnoxious bitchez!111'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: every time some dude goes 'i could try and spend 20yr and maybe come up with a sane basis for crypto --- or there's that bottle of whisky. and it looks moar like a deal' hitler wins.
a111: Logged on 2016-09-08 18:32 mircea_popescu: aha. except there's no "you've been inmissed". the way words work in actual languages is that you institute (say a rule) and you destitute (eg a functionary).
asciilifeform: from the parking orbit of mircea_popescu's dirigible, somewhere past pluto, both look quite similar yes.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i have 0 interest in garden-variety 'businessman of luxor', only in hitler's annointed poodles.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: degeneration to monkey is directly observable with naked eye among the englishers
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: You have been fired
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: You have been dismissed
a111: Logged on 2016-08-23 18:49 mircea_popescu: pretty ridoinculous seeing how half the time i fuck girl with knees together.
asciilifeform: as mircea_popescu helpfully pointed out.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: looks like they're going for a 'догоним и перегоним' tack re phuctor etc.
asciilifeform: that mircea_popescu would send rocket full of weasels ?
PeterL: speaking of books, mircea_popescu have you read "The Prince" by Machiavelli? I have been reading it and for some reason it made me think of you (though I expect you would read it in the original Italian?) ☟︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i do not regard the now-explicit cooperation of koch with boeck as uninteresting.
asciilifeform: if mircea_popescu knows anyone in or near cologne, could try to crash party.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: https://archive.is/Uow3O << mega-lol: 'These air pod headphone things aren't visible enough to signal to men that I don't want them to talk to me'
asciilifeform: iirc asciilifeform was the one with the ru poets, phf - with french poets and lions, mircea_popescu - with cinematic. etc
asciilifeform: young mircea_popescu , like many young folk, like, e.g., young-asciilifeform , and young-asciipet, all had this correct idea.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: haha just found https://www.reddit.com/r/NSFWforhire - may pique one's fancy
a111: Logged on 2016-09-08 14:20 mircea_popescu: then again, trust-but-verify is the correct approach anyway.