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BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes likes cars and wants his computers
to be more like his cars
simonpenner: oh so you're all functional programmers
too?
simonpenner: I did write liek 3/4ths of
the rest of
the site
tho
simonpenner: to clarify in case you missed
this: I did not write
the days of rage post,
that is a guestpost
simonpenner: BingoBoingo: I poked my head in here
the other day on a fake name via webchat,
to figure out what it is. Now I've got a bouncer set up and can IRC again
mircea_popescu: and in further romanian
traditional "fuck everyone's words" : "beata lei" is
the
typical italian "good for you". in romanian, "biata de ea", poor her.
BingoBoingo: There are many
things in
this world where rust removal and remediation are possible.
The steel of American cars is not one of
them.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform:
Then
there's ruined pain on doomed body panel.
a111: Logged on 2017-01-28 21:49 ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: any
thoughts on rustoleum spray on rubber/"plastidip"
to slow down metastasization/rusting of body panel gouge?
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes:
The cold
truth you must confront is
that
the body panel is without any doubt doomed. Everything from
this point forward is merely stalling
the inevitable victory of oxidation.
ben_vulpes: goals are
twofold: prevent further paint degradation and as much rust as possible now
that
the skin is broken
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: If your mission is stopping rust what you want is
to seal
the area against air and moisture. A
thin layer of oil based paint does
this. A
think rubber or plastic glop is more likely
to break its seal because soft. If
thin paint breaks seal it should be noticable.
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Paint.
Thin layer of pigment in binder.
Reuel: mircea_popescu is
there a spec for
the bot you mentioned
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: rust is cancer, but sealing it with paint may slow progesion. prolly safer
to stick
to "rustoleum" paint over a plastidip/rubberseal product
Reuel: Not sure whether I missed some more
talk earlier, disconnected a few
times, but I'll read up in
the logs. Going
to mull over
the no free money
thing a bit.
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: any
thoughts on rustoleum spray on rubber/"plastidip"
to slow down metastasization/rusting of body panel gouge?
☟︎ Reuel: ah right was using
the OTP for rating me
mircea_popescu: i don't
think anyone seriously believes
this dude's stuff is not already held by everyone interested in
triplicate.
mircea_popescu: this bizarre nonsense where it's enough
to state something
mircea_popescu: the "holds in pocket keys
to own cell" doctrine (that, if you recall, superseded habeas corpus in
the us "legal" system) has meanwhile pushed
through and it's "plea bargain!"
mircea_popescu: "respected" "trusted". why ? "because we say so" "but you only say so so as
to have said so" "exactly"
mircea_popescu: well,
they're helpfully writing
their names down, can't hurt/
Reuel: thanks for
the feedback
Reuel: The democracy
thing is not
the main goal, just a funny side
thought
Reuel: In
the end art is
to make people feel, some art makes sophisticated people feel sophisticated
things, some art makes simple people feel simple
things, and I guess as a starting artist, Im not
that picky yet
diana_coman: as
to
the
trouble
there: it's more
than a concern - it invalidates your "test"
diana_coman: there will be some people who enjoy X for any X really, not sure what does
that do
Reuel: Going
to
think on
this
Reuel: I agree
the money coming in is like magic, it mirrors gibmedats a bit actually, lol
Reuel: However I do
think it would be a game people would enjoy, maybe not bitcoin people
though :)
Reuel: I see
the concern, yeah
diana_coman: ugh, and you don't see any problem with
that?
Reuel: hmm,
the model might be
totally of but
the reality of human interaction and bargaining is present, and grouping, deals, promises
diana_coman: Reuel, let me see if I get
this straight: you want
to implement a "small" scale model of democracy in order
to
test whether it works; at
the same
time, you propose
to implement it on a model of reality
that is purposefully broken because..."scope is
too small for it
to matter"?
mircea_popescu: meta will kill you every
time BECAUSE if your design is uncompelling people will btod.
Reuel: but
to get others
to vote for laws
that increase your groups salariy, you will probably have
to either give something else up or promise
to
mircea_popescu: "oh you won't be allowed
to do
that ?" "why not ?" "Ad hoc!" "congrats, you exported
the job of designing your game
to an os which was not designed
to do
this"
Reuel: well salries are set at
the start,
there is a national budget which is divided over all players, but certain laws can change
the balance
mircea_popescu: tomorrow i vote
to give myself more salary
than your platform can support. i mean
this literally, 1024! shall be my salary. what
then ?
mircea_popescu: yes but you need some sort of bounds for
this
to ripple back. otherwise it's just a free expanding system
Reuel: my idea was more in
the sense
that, democracy leads
to corruption and gaming
the system
mircea_popescu: that usually works when
there's a solid underlying reality.
Reuel: I would say
the meat of
the game is in
the intrigue around selecting laws
that benefit groups or individuals
diana_coman: Reuel, unbalanced means broken; do you mean you want
to implement something broken on purpose
to
then see
then
that it...breaks?
mircea_popescu: well, i dunno,
this may be something you might enjoy but i have no advice about
Reuel: I hoped
to see it crash and burn