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mircea_popescu: the truth is after eight years of monkey in chief they're scarcely capable of anything but monkeying about. the dem party that lost to bush is such a sad memory for the democrat party of today. like 50yo sinatra to 90 yo sinatra.
asciilifeform: in east usa there is an infamous cable tv&modem monopoly, 'comcast', it renamed itself to 'xfinity' to fool idiots into 'ooh NEW ISP!'
asciilifeform: brands die, idiocies -- less often. they'll rename it, and hum along
mircea_popescu: or eight years of hussein bahamas the democrat party ?
asciilifeform: consider, fdiv bug did not end intel; the 1,000,001 remote 0days did not end microshit.
ben_vulpes: quite impossible to play out literally, lol
asciilifeform: even terrible semiconductors typically are quite durable -- so this is unlikely to play out literally
ben_vulpes: i am spectacularly unqualified to opine as to how it might happen this time, so i wonder.
asciilifeform: intel's a crown-owned affair, effectively, it can only perish together with the crown. like, e.g., 'elektronika' did.
asciilifeform: how do you picture this, ben_vulpes ?
ben_vulpes: i wonder what the 'tacoma narrows' moment looks like for intel and friends.
asciilifeform: (in short: if somehow -- through whatever means -- enemy can nudge the instruction pointer, it has to be nudged ~somewhere~. if stack is not executable, or he cannot put anything useful there, the next best thing is a kind of 'junkyard wars' consisting of ~what is already loaded into your process's address space~.)
asciilifeform: ROP is why you want not only 'fits-in-head' source of proggy, but the smallest binary physically possible. ☟︎
asciilifeform: (not an esp. good one, but apparently there is not such a thing as a good one)
asciilifeform: (same folx as were responsible for 'prohibiting' static linking. see, if no dynamically-linked crapolade in process memory space, AND deadcode eliminated, then ROP will be quite painful to arrange !!)
asciilifeform: and it is not difficult to figure out who broke it, and why.
asciilifeform: btw i finally realized that gcc (and consequently all known GNATs likewise) deadcode elimination is entirely broken.
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: b-but free energy from the soil timecube
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Anyways if you want to promote "the right" bacteria in your dirt just grow legumes and do the whole crop rotation bsns
mircea_popescu: wasn't it of the future ?
asciilifeform: the idiocy with the 'we threw away the magic master key, we PROMISE!!!!'
thestringpuller: ironically there is still no steamos box
thestringpuller: Linux was just a placeholder to transition to SteamOS.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if you find that they are playable on a box with soft-emulated ('mesa') gpu, i will be pleasantly surprised
mircea_popescu: i dunno, about half their games are actually from the matrox period.
asciilifeform: not much steaming to be had on ye olde matrox.
asciilifeform: but pointing out that the 'camel's nose' already long ago entered on any box where running, e.g., 'steam', is contemplated.
mircea_popescu: i don't care "whjat this says", it's not fucking fashion.
mircea_popescu: this isn't a theoretical discussion. i'm not about to upgrade libc.
mircea_popescu: basicallyt the great success of the FOSS was that corporations used them to spearhead cost reductions. no longer is there any need to, for instance, offer any support. they're open source! except not.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform they don't.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: betcha keeping around 'support' monkey, to answer mail from 'IT DUN WORK!!11' whiners, costs something
mircea_popescu: ie, it's not ACTUALLY WORTH IT for valve ; because they're trying to cater to the imbeciles whoi "but mp, what do you mean mpex seats cost!" and those... have no money.
asciilifeform: (which contortions -- is familiar subj to more or less everyone here)
asciilifeform: reason is that 'modern' gcc WON'T statically link, without contortions
a111: Logged on 2017-02-10 05:43 mircea_popescu: "Parse did a lot of things right."
asciilifeform: actually that probably isn't the reason (the crapola all summed, weighs, what, a few MB.)
mircea_popescu: the perverse reason is quite evident : they don't want to pay akamai for downloads.
asciilifeform: (for all that has been said re winblowz, at least this is yet-unknown there)
mircea_popescu: and before that the libjpeg nonsense ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the glibc6 thing was a quite deliberate bomb to lock out users of old debians and similar
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's only silent in their idiotic gui perspective ; otherwise if you run it like sane people in cli it barfs as quoted.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: post strace of the silently-die ?
mircea_popescu: apparently they contain dependencies they aren't aware of. how does this happen, clumsy drepper hand edited them post facto ?
mircea_popescu: whereas prior versions claim all dependencies are satisfied, and then SILENTLY DIE
mircea_popescu promptly discovers that all versions past 1.0.0.24 refuse to install without libc6 > 2.15
mircea_popescu attempts to install steam, teh saga. 1. website only offers "most recent", no link to history, nothing. most recent of course wants libc6 > 2.15 because fu user.
ben_vulpes: (also baby steps towards federal gendarmerie in form of "better coordination of law enforcement")
ben_vulpes: "illegal smuggling and trafficking of humans" is all over that thing. would otherwise be a huge victory for the nonprofits pushing that line, except for how it's donny t doing it
ben_vulpes: in which trump rips a plank out of the prog platform and starts beating them with it: https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2017/02/09/presidential-executive-order-enforcing-federal-law-respect-transnational
mircea_popescu: shinohai the chick in the strip robbery looks reasonably hot.
thestringpuller: oh. i thought that was the joke.
jhvh1: shinohai: The operation succeeded.
shinohai: !~later tell BingoBoingo http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/1MRi4/?raw=true
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: temper the excitement, it's a parachute, not a plane
asciilifeform: '¿Qué es El Laboratorio C? El Laboratorio de Electrónica "C" es una dependencia adscrita a la Unidad de Laboratorios de la Universidad Simón Bolívar, cuya función principal es la de prestar colaboración y servicio para la realización de trabajos experimentales de docencia, investigación y desarrollo, tesis de grado y el mantenimiento de equipos, en el campo de la electrónica, telecomunicaciones, control e informática.'
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/E91DC57E0574612D57B8AD9F8478A1D3E5BD112419FFC8B1D93437C710E2762E << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1756...4863 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '159.90.170.100 (ssh-rsa key from 159.90.170.100 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (hal.labc.usb.ve. VE A)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/E91DC57E0574612D57B8AD9F8478A1D3E5BD112419FFC8B1D93437C710E2762E << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1668...5537 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '159.90.170.100 (ssh-rsa key from 159.90.170.100 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (hal.labc.usb.ve. VE A)
asciilifeform: i'ma probably release 'g' some time before month is out.
mircea_popescu: we'll have to have a gossipd sooner rather than later.
mircea_popescu: more seriously : it does seem freenode's screeching ever closer to its use-by date.
asciilifeform: srsly almost ANY protocol built on top of raw lossy packet, even with one hand tied behind your back, ends up beating the shit out of tcp.
a111: Logged on 2017-02-10 16:49 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-10#1612963 << mosh works over udp, and mitigates latency, dropped packets, and interrupted connection all the way to doing transparent roaming, so benefits are only seen on hardware in question: can still do useful work even over very dodgy connection
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-10#1613048 << you get ~all of this for free JUST BY DUMPING TCP ☝︎
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: if every production of usg academitardia were chewed apart in the l0gz, no hdd would suffice to hold'em
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: i can't help but picture you on a box with 6 months of old reddit browser tabs...
mircea_popescu: an' veracruz is like, right next to oaxaca, on the atlantic rather than the pacific side.
mircea_popescu: phf palenque is in the southernmost state of mexico (chiapas). what, like 100 miles from your spot.
thestringpuller: "After further investigation, it turned out that the two AIs were communicating using a novel symmetric key cipher, and the key that ended up being uncrackable by the third AI was simply '12345', the kind of password an idiot would have on his luggage."
mircea_popescu: and in other lulz, inept hack trying to culturally appropriate soviet times (without citation, OF COURSE) - https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/feb/10/donald-trump-president-comedy-snl-satire
a111: Logged on 2017-02-10 16:28 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform btw, in a very much unrteported move, frankfurt got 300 tons of gold from new york.
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-10#1613027 << i was waiting for that. first article i open mentions that the gold is there to put it out of moscow's reach, mentions european financial troubles and the lack of trust in trump in three paragraphs. almost can admire the fuckers, sort of like reading particularly gnarly piece of soviet propaganda ☝︎
mircea_popescu: but even that aside, the amber civilisation is fascinating on its own.
mircea_popescu: imo chiapas is the best part of mexico. spent a very agreeable week in palenque drilling the confused hordes of usian girlies searching for spirituality or w/e the fuck.
phf: that does look neat, i'd like to make my way to south america at some point. most south i've been is costa rica
mircea_popescu: i spent my time in veracruz, other side of the place.
phf: there aren't often local cable networks. at least judging by number of microwave relay towers where i am now, and their frequency, that's all you get.
mircea_popescu: personally i'd rather directly hack into the local cable networks than resort to wifi over cell tower bs.
phf: so hardware was literally that
phf: in fact i tested it from nearby Huatulco, mexico, and it was sort of like batched processing. type a bunch of things, wait some time and eventually get feedback, but i had very poor luck with ssh
a111: Logged on 2017-02-10 14:01 mircea_popescu: phf what's the relevancy of the hardware details in the example given ?
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-10#1612963 << mosh works over udp, and mitigates latency, dropped packets, and interrupted connection all the way to doing transparent roaming, so benefits are only seen on hardware in question: can still do useful work even over very dodgy connection ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: even without obamacare that's a 10ish bn extra expenditure on the welfare state.
mircea_popescu: hence seattle. put it up on a hill, fire at the city. should get the 4km out of it.
mircea_popescu: nah, iirc they went up to 4km
asciilifeform: (radius of nukeage being slightly higher than the weapon's range)
mircea_popescu: no shortage of folk tired of living.
asciilifeform: though you would have to be quite tired of living to set it off as shown in the picture
asciilifeform: iirc these were traditional, not thermonukes, so if they have not been recycled or misplaced -- still oughta work!
mircea_popescu: they're probably still stored somewhere due to the fact they're hard to defuse by design.
mircea_popescu: 1960s weapons, rugged and none of that pussyfooting. if it's fired, it explodes.
mircea_popescu: how would they have stopped ?
asciilifeform: if only these still worked
mircea_popescu: all those pretty lights.
mircea_popescu: could make for some pretty entertaining daytime tv.
mircea_popescu: (for the new people : the historical reason for which german gold was stored on another continent has everything to do with the fulda gap, and the sad experience of about 100-150 tons of romanian gold + an order of magnitude more in paper that was magically lost in russia)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform btw, in a very much unrteported move, frankfurt got 300 tons of gold from new york. ☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: (linked text, that is. civil suit ~against usg~)
mircea_popescu: fancy that wonder.
mircea_popescu: "13. Donor No. 1 satisfies the requirements to sue anonymously."