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asciilifeform: aha
asciilifeform: i'm assuming x86 ?
asciilifeform: strip plz
asciilifeform: and is 22mb the stripped elf ?
asciilifeform: cpu ?
asciilifeform: weight ?
asciilifeform: here we go
asciilifeform: !s sword hilt
asciilifeform: !s sword hilts
asciilifeform: aha
asciilifeform: tetris ?
asciilifeform: bureaucrats, snore.
asciilifeform: so are, one might note, their machines.
asciilifeform: for the 'old boys'
asciilifeform: thinking 'now i'll find work'
asciilifeform: decimation: i can't help but wonder if somewhere, in a damp cellar, a kid is studying 'JOVIAL'
asciilifeform: and hence this.
asciilifeform knew he would not have time to write later this week
asciilifeform: was a bit of a hurried job on my part, BingoBoingo asked for a likbez, and,
asciilifeform: other than that, looks perfect
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: one left in footnote 2
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: neato! ty
asciilifeform thought that this was well-established
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: / .. / - italics
asciilifeform: size it down to 640x480 perhaps
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: image blows up
asciilifeform: and making use of 1970s-era monstrosities (e.g., 'JOVIAL')
asciilifeform: quite a few usg-sponsored war projects are still -struggling to modernize to ada-
asciilifeform: phun phact:
asciilifeform: (ada is quite like a more 'fascist' incarnation of pascal)
asciilifeform: decimation: definitely. more specifically, pascal-likes.
asciilifeform: decimation: that's traditional notation for a standard that no longer has a working group but has not been retracted
asciilifeform: it's a kind of 'polar opposite' of common lisp..
asciilifeform: i can sorta see why naggum went in for ada
asciilifeform: and guess which are the only two programming languages to have 'rationale manuals' for every aspect of the language ?
asciilifeform: at any rate, all of the ada-related material is thoroughly public
asciilifeform: not so hard
asciilifeform: considering that the sole remaining makers of the product described in that one are chinese...
asciilifeform: ^ yes - actual cpu!
asciilifeform: 'MIL-STD-1750A' etc.
asciilifeform: gnat/gcc lacks support for some of the more exotic chips used
asciilifeform: - actually - i can think of one
asciilifeform: but this being one of the only two programming languages in existence which are -standardized in their entirety-, in principle there is no reason - aside from retardation - to use a proprietary ada
asciilifeform: there are proprietary ada systems, yes. i have not been able to learn who uses them, and for what.
asciilifeform: and (iirc) lgpl
asciilifeform: at any rate, all of the 'standard library' is public
asciilifeform: for which the chumps, yes, pay
asciilifeform: and is a separate racket
asciilifeform: the certificate has nothing to do with ada per se
asciilifeform: (one of the conditions for the ancient usg mandate establishing ada 'foundation' is that the product must be gpl'ed)
asciilifeform: gnat is both widely used and gpl
asciilifeform: nope.
asciilifeform: without the 'bondage & discipline' stylistic aspects
asciilifeform: as in, something that actually provides the same functionality
asciilifeform: i've learned that there is not actually a good substitute for ada, as of yet.
asciilifeform for one would rather not have HF in his kitchen
asciilifeform: nothing that threatens to put it in your friendly local illegal machine shop, much less your kitchen.
asciilifeform: aha.
asciilifeform: etc.
asciilifeform: (but costlier, as decimation points out, with inflation)
asciilifeform: the energy required to melt Si is ever the same
asciilifeform: high vacuum, for instance, is still achieved in much the same ways as in 1930s
asciilifeform: aha.
asciilifeform: none of the items that comprise most of the expense have changed since day one.
asciilifeform: as i pointed out earlier,
asciilifeform: (resolves to 'maxwell's daemon')
asciilifeform: good thermodynamic reasons to conclude that it is not doable in the general case
asciilifeform: but to somehow lay out electrical logic elements at the customary densities without resort to a $1B factory.
asciilifeform: we don't necessarily need to 'shrink the classical fab'
asciilifeform: that's the wrong thought.
asciilifeform: probably needs entirely new chemistry.
asciilifeform: the only thing that seems certain imho is that starting from existing concept of ic fab is a dead end ☟︎
asciilifeform: that i know of.
asciilifeform: no one has yet suggested a practical means of doing it.
asciilifeform: decimation: thus far, it is.
asciilifeform: welcome to propagation delays 100s of mSec long. and idiot proprietary toolchains
asciilifeform: anyone who wants - open catalogue, buy right now.
asciilifeform: that's existing idiocy.
asciilifeform: that isn't chip printing
asciilifeform: but sucks even harder
asciilifeform: sucks for exactly the same reasons as ordinary fpga
asciilifeform: called antifuse fpga
asciilifeform: this exists
asciilifeform: as it demands high vacuum, among other finicky and expensive things
asciilifeform: not useful for our purposes
asciilifeform: that'd be the extant 'ion beam workstation'
asciilifeform: the need for a steerable beam process is pretty clear
asciilifeform: aha
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: please make sure the fragile externally linked stuff (marked) is mirrored
asciilifeform: neato.
asciilifeform: but otherwise ready to roll, imho.
asciilifeform: (there are links to linkify and images to imagify)
asciilifeform: it'll need a bit of formatting work
asciilifeform: ok
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: paste checksum of plaintext when you get it
asciilifeform: plz confirm
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: http://dpaste.com/114FS2Z.txt
asciilifeform: or what
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: am i to use your original wot key ?
asciilifeform: that last one's it.