asciilifeform: chetty: more complicated. ploy to stave off genuine voice channel crypto indefinitely through 'aha see they foiled usg plot, go back to using traditional phone'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://www.aholme.co.uk/Mk1/Architecture.htm << example of modern discrete logic machine. (there are many. common amateur project. but, afaik, nothing remotely large enough for, e.g., a bitcoin node.)
asciilifeform: anyone can harmlessly change a version constant.
asciilifeform: the only true 'acid test' is an actual hardfork.
asciilifeform: depending on how much self-restraint the idiots have, it may even turn out that all usg-sponsored miners will run (or claim to run) 0.10
asciilifeform: decimation: was a failed line of thought re: densities
asciilifeform: what -is- relatively new is the near-total loss of access to actual food for quite a few folks.
asciilifeform: the encyclopaedia i mentioned earlier today (1872) contained innumerable recipes for useful things, but also for faux honey, sham ass's milk (yes), and a thousand other fakeries
asciilifeform: (as described in, e.g., sebastian brandt's 'ship of fools')
asciilifeform: were a problem, to some extent, even in late medieval times
asciilifeform: also worth noting that sc4mf00dz are not new
asciilifeform: but one could argue that at a certain point it is an irresistible temptation to the sc4mz0rz, rather than guarantee of genuine article
asciilifeform: but notions like the above, that actually trace descent to late pre-atomic state of the art
asciilifeform: not speaking of pseudoscience as such
asciilifeform wonder how much pre-atomic chemistry remains quietly in circulation to this day, in various 'practical' works
asciilifeform: 'Platinum - also called platina is the heaviest substance but one (see No. 47) known, having a specific gravity of fully 21, which may be raised to about 21.5 by hammering.' - Encyclopaedia of Practical Receipts and Processes. William B. Dick, 1872. << mega-vintage-l0l
asciilifeform: think of it as 'airgap' from civilization.
asciilifeform: re: autism pollutant: when i tell folks that north kr is a unique planetary resource whose (very likely) disappearance could turn out to be an extinction-level catastrophe - they make monkey noises
asciilifeform: not too many poor folks with a 'rich man's view' of rich
asciilifeform: puts some light on why there will never be an 'underhanded ada' contest.
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: it goes right on top of the old uboot
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: flags and start addresses !?!
asciilifeform: the ones who wouldn't be 'caught dead' at, e.g., 'mcdonald's'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: whatever it is, u.s. folks from 'high society' obsessed with 'natural product' are getting their fair share of it - or more.
asciilifeform: and there can be no confusion between them, imho
asciilifeform: this says nothing on the question of contaminants found in 'proper' food in same shop, but i did want to point out that the two fundamentally different things are shelved separately
asciilifeform: (aside from logo, geometrically regular packages with no expiration date or date in distant future, proximity to other similar products on the shelf, and - above all - cost closer to what one might expect of motor fuel than food)
asciilifeform: it is entirely clear to the naked eye (no need to open the seal) where the identical goop is.
asciilifeform: the vendors aren't really trying to mimic the genuine article.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: where i live, the synthetic food is conveniently shelved in another (by far largest) section of the store than the mostly-correct (to look, feel, and taste) variant
asciilifeform: bury folks in an ocean of shit - no blame can be assigned
asciilifeform: more general observation, one explanation of the american attitude to pollutants (the more the merrier) is that it is precisely for the same reason as poettering et al's attitude to software.
asciilifeform: the fizzy drinks and synthetic beers have been around longer than autism, though.
