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ben_vulpes: !!pay mircea_popescu 0.8
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: nah, let me take care of that. 0.8 it was?
mod6: mircea_popescu!
mircea_popescu: diana_coman "took me twice as long" ? ☟︎
shinohai: o hai mircea_popescu !
deedbot: ben_vulpes: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/m8tFP/?raw=true
jurov: ben_vulpes: got it
mod6: ben_vulpes: I probably can later indeed. I've never used this before, need trinque to help here.
jurov: Or whatever addy ben_vulpes/mod6 send me signed, ofc.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-14 17:58 ben_vulpes: hey would you be so kind as to push 3.3 btc of foundation funds to mod6's deedbot account?
TomServo: ben_vulpes: Surprised this has not been done. I'll add to the (geological!) list.
TomServo: ben_vulpes: I'm talking about changing my irc handle, such as yourself.
lobbes: Congrats on house jurov_moving
ben_vulpes: jurov_moving: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/1DTwp/?raw=true
ben_vulpes: ty jurov_moving
asciilifeform: dare i to ask, where'ya moving to, jurov_moving , and from where ?
deedbot: jurov_moving voiced for 30 minutes.
asciilifeform: !!up jurov_moving
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: you ordered these boxes from asciilifeform and then threw hands up over the whole thing; still want them disked and racked any preference on which?
ben_vulpes: well you've got the 1 machine that's ready to ship right now, dulap yhes? and then of the 2 remaining diskless gotta a) get disk in 'em and b) get mircea_popescu to okay their installation
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: this 1 slot, this is after 2 (of 3 queued) snsa crates ?
a111: Logged on 2018-02-14 14:49 mircea_popescu: yet i can't tell him from adam.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-14 14:45 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-13#1783483 << the correct approach is to make up for lost time by helping us become familiar with you (in the sense of your history -- there is no other you than what you do).
a111: Logged on 2018-02-14 14:27 BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes might be able to supply middle management if he takes an active interest in this venture. But as per http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2018/02/13/a-summary-of-bbisp-activity/#comment-114709 I would like to see new management present at least one plan where they envision keeping the corpse warm for a month and pulling the plug if they find it unfeasible in a way that allows BingoBoingo to survive in a position no wosre than
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: It was the thought behind suggesting ben_vulpes for that role here, after the results of send a Librarian to South America... some decisions probably gotta get more conservative http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-14#1783781 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: if you're a smart guy, you just use this to prop castle ben_vulpes into existence. you two need a place to confer, and it doesn't properly belong here unless there's some kind of larger problem, so for day to day ops... you gotr a fodder.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-10 15:16 mircea_popescu: i'll be here an hour later. so will be here the fact the latter approach is well known and THOROUGHLY documented to cause shocking failure in otherwise well meaning, intelligent and respectable kids. that's ~the whole history of early bitcoin.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-14 15:13 mircea_popescu: or in more pointed terms, we've been running a http://trilema.com/2014/ill-pay-for-your-tits/ except for brains. the reaction in the population has been comparable. it turns out about as many people have brains as girls have tits. and they're about as intellectually useful, too!
ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-14#1783842 << BingoBoingo needs supervision and tasking at a (micro-)scale that mircea_popescu understandably has zero interest in providing. now this may be a case of http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-10#1783173, but if building an isp for tmsr isn't worth bleeding for i don't know what is and so this is the breach into which i intend to step. ☝︎☝︎
mircea_popescu: mod6 if you'd rather pay cash, that's also fine. !!pay mircea_popescu .8 at your leisure
mod6: mircea_popescu: I'd like to see S.NSA's equipment come down to .uy and be also a customer.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-14 14:18 mircea_popescu: that aside, i don't necessarily want to be paid cash or anything ; carry the same http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-11#1783243 on the books alongside whatever you're adding via the foundation and it'll be fine.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-14 14:15 mircea_popescu: mod6 i'm not against you taking over ; but mind that as you also mention, BingoBoingo 's problem wasn't lack of access to capital (i dunno why this keeps being the expectation, as it's scarcely yet been the case, we're drastically overcapitalized is the entire fucking problem to begin with). BingoBoingo 's problem was lack of access to middle management, and it nigh on killed him. so for this to work, that's the key element.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-14 10:40 diana_coman: mod6, mind giving a bit more detail regarding the business+technical side?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: since you mentioned it -- what exactly is a 'bytem' ?
a111: Logged on 2018-02-13 17:58 diana_coman: yes, how big is not a head count strictly of course; put it as how powerful if that is clearer
a111: Logged on 2018-02-14 15:11 mircea_popescu: which brings the following point home : it's not at all http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-13#1783553 ; it's very much that the republic doesn't actually have the intellectual capacity to handle the needs of its immense capital, as of yet.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-14 15:09 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-13#1783585 << continuing on this discussion (not so as to improperly call asciilifeform 's usual dithery blather such ; but for the record, that a discussion was at least ~attempted~) : s.mg boardroom eventually decided yesterday to employ a format for the pre-padded rsa messages. it will consist of [F][random bits][message].
a111: Logged on 2018-02-13 17:54 diana_coman: in other words this can be put as: tmsr's l1 atm is not big enough yet to support an isp of its own
mircea_popescu: the sizes note the message size, which is to say how many bits to lop off the end. this has specific benefits over the (deeply inept) scheme gpg currently uses ; they'll be discussed in the usual diana_coman post on the topic.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-13 22:06 diana_coman: in other issues: rfc on oaep for tmsr, see http://trilema.com/2017/tmsr-rsa-spec-extremely-early-draft/#comment-124596
a111: Logged on 2018-02-13 16:40 ben_vulpes: phf: yeah i rolled IVA into that number, is that wrong for some reason?
a111: Logged on 2018-02-12 16:42 mircea_popescu: "if mp built his back-to-back toilet, how could you ~using software only, mind!~ ensure the piss of his slavegirls doesn't mix ?"
a111: Logged on 2018-02-13 16:08 BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Another higher margin activity which can be marketed is good old fashioned shared hosting.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Yeah, not perfect but servicable. Cuning enough to extract a decent living here outta the orcs while waiting to return to the Dental profession.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> how you hodling up ? << I guess the other big lesson is that in a bit more than two months, this weekend has shown that I made at least one servicable friend here
a111: Logged on 2014-04-16 02:39 mircea_popescu: ;;rate TomServo 1 New blood.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-13 10:58 ave1: Hanbot and Diana_coman, I thought so too. The past couple of days has cost me a few nights sleep. My thoughts here: http://ave1.org/2018/from-the-proverbial-peanut-gallery/
asciilifeform: this particular observation ( mircea_popescu had a 'liars can't invent' article ) i found fascinating and tried several times to write a piece in application re particular historic charlatans , but failed to say anyffingnew
BingoBoingo: But with the IspWish... With a mircea_popescu venture I had a good idea I was playing with a knife. I have a lot of uncertainty what a mod6, ben_vulpes, alf coalition offers that mircea_popescu didn't other than padding and yet to be determined quality of middle management. If they present an escape plan it would provide a lot of comfort.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: One day at a time. This has been good for my AA basics even if the local AA seems more cargo cult as my spanish improves.
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes might be able to supply middle management if he takes an active interest in this venture. But as per http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2018/02/13/a-summary-of-bbisp-activity/#comment-114709 I would like to see new management present at least one plan where they envision keeping the corpse warm for a month and pulling the plug if they find it unfeasible in a way that allows BingoBoingo to survive in a position no wosre than ☟︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: wb btw. i for one thought that mircea_popescu was tired of teaching his kindergarten..
asciilifeform: ohai mircea_popescu
a111: Logged on 2018-02-11 13:57 mircea_popescu: alternatively, i have no problem taking say 1.5 worth of absolutely senior convertible equity in your continuant venture, however you call it.
a111: Logged on 2017-02-21 22:44 mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes speaking of house, the BEST THING father can do for his daughter, aged 9 to 19, is make sure she has abundant, clean protein available. no meal without salmon, fine beef, shrimp, pump her full of 100g of protein a day.
a111: Logged on 2018-01-25 17:25 mircea_popescu: hmm, where the hell is the place where i say the father's responsibility to his daughter is to shove a pound of raw prime beef down her throat every day and naught else ?
ave1: I hereby apologise to lord ben_vulpes
asciilifeform: after that you can e.g. time echo "??\`\`*[print 0x]##[ == 0x]#[ * 0x]#" | ./bin/ffa_calc 1048576 32 lotsaones.bin | tr -d '\n' | python
asciilifeform: echo ".0~#" | ./bin/ffa_calc 1048576 32 | xxd -r -p > lotsaones.bin
asciilifeform: time echo "??\`\`*[print 0x]##[ == 0x]#[ * 0x]#" | ./bin/ffa_calc 1048576 32 /dev/urandom | tr -d '\n' | python
asciilifeform: >> http://btcbase.org/patches/ffa_ch10_karatsuba << ty phf !
asciilifeform: who knows, 20y from nao , a different asciilifeform will meet a different mircea_popescu and they will look for a sane numeric lib and ~find~ one, instead of sitting for 4y without...
asciilifeform: somebody plox wake up mircea_popescu
asciilifeform: ( since mircea_popescu seems to be sleeping i'ma have to run the emulator : 'it's because they are part of my Adult World, not this stinking kindergarten' )
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: not to mention eulora, trilema, somehow seem to run..
asciilifeform: diana_coman: that was the openproblem that produced the thread which ultimately turned into mp's-hash etc
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: which it
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i meant, in sum
ben_vulpes: aaand that assumes that the 5 slots mircea_popescu wants don't overlap with s.nsa
asciilifeform: diana_coman: could be enuff. depending on what people are willing to pay.
ben_vulpes: diana_coman: i've only tallied up ~1.7k/mo in l1 space rental
asciilifeform: diana_coman: dare i ask if you have a theory of how a bisp could stay in the black without taking heathen coin ?
asciilifeform: diana_coman: there's two problems , 'technical' and 'business'. technical is solvable. the part that bites, is the 'business'
phf: ben_vulpes: didn't you lose a $1000 then, it works out to 2741/mo
phf: ben_vulpes: it's $1423 for 20/200 pipe and $900 for 2.5KW rack (his pipe is effectively 18/183)
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Another higher margin activity which can be marketed is good old fashioned shared hosting. ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-02-13 07:56 diana_coman: I admit I don't really get what the sticking point is there in asciilifeform's calculations: the potential tax on shipped equipment? the cost of BingoBoingo ? the cost of racks? not enough sure revenue (how the fuck)? what?
ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-13#1783475 << this is not that clear to me. what i've penciled out is that there are some ~1.8kusd monthly of rack rental buy side floating around, and mircea_popescu's plan as i understand it was to build and rent vpsen to get to breakeven, which still needs someone in teh forums hawking vps ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-02-08 23:20 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-08#1782932 << the only point to my eyes is that someone fucked in the head enough to run something they call "datacenter" without one ton of spare racks laying about is not distinguishable from three twelve year old white boys in a "tree fort" running a "porn business" through taking complicatedly filtered ipad shots of their own palms.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-10 14:58 mircea_popescu: nevertheless, reality can only be elided at significant personal sacrifice and over short intervals. so, to repeat it : there is no future for the republic without an isp.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-11 14:00 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo what your lack of experience isn't informing you is that you have a very significant advantage. your ~7k per annum cost compares very VERY favorable to what empire pays to hire a walmart drone (25k or so base + 20k or so in overload). the walmart drone costs 6x what you do, and i daresay they do not do 1/6th of what you do. just because you came out short of lordship in the field does not now mean the baseline of
BingoBoingo: I am re-reading it a few times. Certainly it is helpful in a way that the gabriel_laddel-ism http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2018/02/09/a-long-descent-into-the-cargo-cult/#comment-114684 is not
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo soo, you're buying your ticket wednesday or what was it ? << I was planning on picking it up Thursday if there has been no interest through Wednesday in channel on a takeover mission for this venture. I can extend the timeline a bit, if it is prudent to do so.
ave1: Hanbot and Diana_coman, I thought so too. The past couple of days has cost me a few nights sleep. My thoughts here: http://ave1.org/2018/from-the-proverbial-peanut-gallery/ ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-02-10 14:58 mircea_popescu: nevertheless, reality can only be elided at significant personal sacrifice and over short intervals. so, to repeat it : there is no future for the republic without an isp.
a111: Logged on 2016-01-14 01:40 mircea_popescu: funny how nobody in france and generally in the "nordic model" train of euro-socialistoid train wants to remember how, by and large, french society was either supportive or indifferent of the nazis, and how "la resistance" maps almost exactly on what today would be "extreme righyt wing extremism", and how de gaulle, the exact equivalent of say arafat, got to re-write history into some delusional "all france stood behin
a111: Logged on 2018-02-12 19:36 mircea_popescu: in spite of all overwhelming evidence. because who knows, right ? science hasn't discovered everything, and it has all the time in the world!
asciilifeform thickens the weights in his mircea_popescutronic neuralnetwork, it hath done well
asciilifeform: somehow i knew mircea_popescu would say this!
asciilifeform: seems to me like mircea_popescu described an ideal miser, who hoards forever 'for later' and dies on a mattress fulla benjies, rather than 'neet' redditus
asciilifeform: but contrary to mircea_popescu's intuitions, the cpu slicing is not the hardest puzzle piece.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: fwiw i've deployed it in past life.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it'd have to be xen
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the 'useful' output is 'i dun have this money'
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> mircea_popescu, BingoBoingo , et al : have i missed anything obvious here ? << The deal with mircea_popescu was mircea_popescu bankrolls BingoBoingo builds isp for BingoBoingo with mircea_popescu as honored investor. For asciilifeform or whoever else may take an interest in taking over, the deal that interests me is BingoBoingo remains in Montevideo to help asciilifeform/alfteam/etc build themselves an isp taking clear
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: of the 400 that it costs among sane people, or the 6000 that it costs in monkeylandia, is the (potential) problem
a111: Logged on 2018-02-12 15:57 mircea_popescu: but if you notice memory is 60% of the price and ~nobody knows wtf is going on... you get taxed on a third at most.
asciilifeform: briefly upstack to http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-12#1783327 : it matters 'a third' ~of what~ . if it's of the 15k list price of the box when it was new ( asciilifeform would be using the type of machines previously prepared for mircea_popescu , they are THE most economical in re bux:horsepower ) then it comes to quite a sum ☝︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu, BingoBoingo , et al : have i missed anything obvious here ?