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mp_sails: as in, they can't give a better life policy to the guy who owns a shipping line they insure than to random clerk walking in off street.
asciilifeform: i dare say mp_sails probably seemed quite a bit more insurable than a usaschwitz inmate - from appraiser's point of view
mp_sails: (on the grounds that they did cover say a boat once, and behaved as an insurer as opposed to what passes for such in the us)
asciilifeform: mp_sails: a story about buying insurance, to be truly educational, has to involve... actually invoking the policy.
mp_sails: bounce, no, but by now nothing is failing spectacularly further, so the propaganda machine is gearing up to counting it as a success.
mp_sails: it cost me, get a load of this, it cost me ~100 pounds for a year's worth
bounce: this has been such a pile of fail that I've been ignoring it. I don't suppose anything actually improved measurably, did it?
asciilifeform: mp_sails: demand-side subsidies are a ratchet - who wants to be the first to have a repeal apply to him, and starve...
asciilifeform: mp_sails: actually, prior to herr obama, they could afford insurance (actual insurance against, e.g., sudden injury) but not the 'insurance' that most usaschwitz inmates speak of (not an insurance at all, but a scheme where someone - usually employer - pays so that a plebe can actually get medical care of any sort, which, as result, is not affordable in any other way)
mp_sails: jurov: ofc, rally a hour after i sold some << lol you and artifex should make a sellers and movers club :D
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: 'write leveling' is a method of delaying this inevitable death - and there are several ways of doing it. if interested, read up on the subject, it isn't a military secret.
mp_sails: and then a year later had 10k or so signups a month.
mats_cd03: convince me with data, now or in a few years
mp_sails: a) it has not helped a lot of poor and b) all the unhelped poor that were fine before are suddenly "unnacounted" for.
mp_sails: mats_cd03: on the other hand, obamacare has and will heal a lot of poor << obamacare is sort-of like that thing where they destroy a neighbourhood, build a huge condo complex and give five activist "poor" people free housing.
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: hm what's a "normal block device" and what does it do?
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: i always found it maddening that 'ssd' can't be used optimally as a normal block device.
pete_dushenski: speaking of laptops, til that the macbook air's ssd is of a mystery brand until you personally crack open the unibody case and look inside
mp_sails: i have this in common with your top clearance defense contractor : that i lug a stack of laptops.
pete_dushenski: mp_sails: so how long of a cruise are you taking that you lugged a laptop along?
TomServo tries to imagine a child not licking mac n cheese.
ben_vulpes: "these hypothetical children are guests of our children, obviously. Our progeny will have refined palettes before they can hold a crayon."
ben_vulpes: "I bet yams would make it even oranger. God, imagine the foodie irony such children present: I will make a roasted vegetable bechamel cheese sauce to appease your desire for processed American food products"
ben_vulpes: from the girl: "A cool thing I discovered is that squash makes the bechamel almost kraft colored, so if we ever have children who refuse to eat white mac n cheese, I can TRICK THEM"
thestringpuller: LOL. I love how there is a Tyler the Creator song in the related search.
assbot: Big Pun - Still not a player - YouTube
danielpbarron slaps ben_vulpes around a bit with a large self projection
danielpbarron slaps JuliaTourianski_ around a bit with a large unspent output
ben_vulpes: just want to bang on a drum all day?
ThickAsThieves: it looks like you have to have a coinbase wallet or such
jurov: ofc, rally a hour after i sold some
Duffer1: i agree, but it's a rather small touch
Duffer1: pretty weak news for such a rally
ThickAsThieves: "...to accept the cryptocurrency for digital goods like online games and downloadable songs. It’s a second baby step for the payments giant toward full Bitcoin adoption ..."
mats_cd03: a mixed legacy for sure.
mats_cd03: on the other hand, obamacare has and will heal a lot of poor
ben_vulpes: i mean he caught a nobel peace price, but eventually overcame it
kakobrekla: xmj doesnt that cmd take a pswd
kakobrekla: the cast took a break
bounce: this looks a different piece than "the case for the empire", which appears to be older
mircea_popescu: anyway, dear all : i'll be taking a trip. see you all tomorrows!
bounce: just like "-- " indicates the start of the signature, and a good mail client won't quote that. there's very few good mail clients in wide use these days.
mircea_popescu: bounce i top post like a boss :D
bounce has a serious problem taking people seriously if they do stupid stuff like send html for no reason, or top-post, or any number of boneheaded things that the aol generation does with gay abandon
pete_dushenski: a i c
kakobrekla: this two were evolved after only a day or two iirc
assbot: Ex-Post: Toronto Bitcoin Expo | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski
kakobrekla: note that this was more of a fun play rather anything else
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell mike_c drop me a line when back.
pete_dushenski: definitely a fun bet, that one!
mircea_popescu: if i say "b-a cannucks" i create one group, if i say " pete_dushenski, nubbins, [...]" i create a group with the same members, but through a different method, which makes it in fact a different group for this conversation.
mircea_popescu: but you identified them as a group not as individuals.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: ancestors need not be a group or identify themselves as part of one
kakobrekla: <punkman> http://imgur.com/a/4PyZK < wtf, so much overhead for 100kbits ☟︎
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski: if no change, then it depends on how useful holding descendants accountable is. < no, i'm with him. this makes exactly zero sense, chiefly because a group may be ridiculous, impractical, suicidal, anything you wish, but never wrong. only individuals can be wrong, in that they don't subscribe to the moral scheme of some group they intend to be part of. ther
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: it's just that the gear switch from derpyland to btcland is bound to culture shock a little. << on the moolah
Azelphur: speaking of hired, I'm doing good stuff at BitRecruiter, I wrote something that might be a good idea for MPEX actually, https://github.com/Azelphur/django-bcauth
mircea_popescu: "Join the Freelancer Shareholder Foundation Program and get a discount on WSO listing fees"
mircea_popescu: jurov: CheckDavid send him to verious btc conferences. At least you'll get rid of him for a time. << i like how practical jurov is. yeah, best move there.
Azelphur: I've met taaki a couple times now
mircea_popescu: CheckDavid: Sincerely don't know. << nobody EVER liked html email. and there's a pretty good argument that it's completely a tech misapplication, like the cigarette lighter oven.
Azelphur: I still don't think genjix should be discounted as a programmer though, he's a damned good one and that'd be one hell of a waste.
mircea_popescu: HE put himself in a business position
Azelphur: but nah, I agree he was a terrible businessman, but then nobody should have put him in a business position anyway, he's a programmer
mircea_popescu: yeah, that's it, i am a master of the written ford.
mircea_popescu: i am a master of the written worm.
mircea_popescu: azzie and julie sittin' in a tree...
mircea_popescu: also wow, she's still connected off a freenode instance ? what the fuck industrial strength internet they have down at the russian bathhouse!
pete_dushenski: a la stalin, ataturk, etc.
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: there's no sense in holding "a people" or "a community" liable for actions of their ancestors, is there? << sorta depends, did "the people" meaningfully change since their ancestors? do they still tie up their shoes the same way? still read the same books? time doesn't necessitate change.
assbot: Tte--Tte With A Neo-National Socialist | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski
pete_dushenski: http://contravex.com/2014/09/21/tete-a-tete-with-a-neo-national-socialist/#comment-20249 << and i'm the self-absorbed prick ;)
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: ahjahaha what ? pete meets a neonazi ? lmao. << gotta stir the pot, y'know?
punkman needs a 3D model made
CheckDavid: Oh. I definitely will communicate interesting job offers to anyone interested. But now I am on a phase of building a base of employers in the bitcoin community
CheckDavid: Not really because we already have a database of job seekers.
CheckDavid: I am managing some communicational efforts for a Recruiting agency
jurov: CheckDavid send him to verious btc conferences. At least you'll get rid of him for a time.
punkman: http://imgur.com/a/4PyZK
punkman: re: systemd, there's a fork now http://uselessd.darknedgy.net/
Vexual: do wee need a commerorative poster?
BingoBoingo: midnightmagic: Looks like a foul. Wasn't quite caught, so doubt it is a foul tip.
gribble: genjix was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 year, 50 weeks, 3 days, 12 hours, 59 minutes, and 28 seconds ago: <genjix> nefario is legit. for sure there is a reasonable explanation and everyone will get their bitcoins back. i trust the guy.
Vexual: bitch gave kakobrekla a sense of humour
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform irc is a harsh but demanding mistress
Vexual: perhaps like a good cup of tea where nothing goes wrong asccii
asciilifeform: what's a work-drink ?
mircea_popescu: because the include block hash only puts a minimum into the pie, not a maximum. the deeds registrar does both.
mircea_popescu: my observation was that as long as you're implementing this, you're better off with the b-a registrar than with your "include block hash and sign"
mircea_popescu: it just means the previous, fiat approach to creating an arbitrary timeline has been replaced by a bitcoin, similarly arbitrary approach
mircea_popescu: once a block is part of the blockchain, its timestamp as declared is part of the history of the world
mircea_popescu: these are block accepting rules. irrespective of this, all blocks contain a timestamp.
ben_vulpes: A timestamp is accepted as valid if it is greater than the median timestamp of previous 11 blocks, and less than the network-adjusted time + 2 hours. "Network-adjusted time" is the median of the timestamps returned by all nodes connected to you.
mircea_popescu: blocks include a timestamp.
mircea_popescu: <ben_vulpes> digest of thing is related to time how? << by being a tx in a block
mircea_popescu: i usually last a coupla blocks...
ben_vulpes: the point i'm making (poorly) is that the block is a nifty fundamental unit of time.
mircea_popescu: no, because a digest of your thing will be included in a block.
mircea_popescu: it allows you to pin down a date w/o a cp
ben_vulpes: i tell ya, if i and my counterparty agree on a block, what's the point?