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mircea_popescu: benkay: petty. << i think it makes it quite clear who works for whom.
TheNewDeal: errr I guess it was technically 1 for a while
TheNewDeal: I know, it's more of a localized issue
TheNewDeal: anyone had troubles with bitcoinwisdom's graphs displaying in chrome? I tried going to chrome://conflicts but nothing was listed
TheNewDeal: speaking of loud transformers, I was sitting at a stoplight the other day under a bunch of high voltage lines, enjoying the buzz that filled the air around me
TheNewDeal: I thought the whole point of a transformer was to change voltage?
TheNewDeal: I laughed, but only because you prefaced with "laugh if you will"
asciilifeform: laugh if you will, but i still use 'great soviet encyclopaedia' on occasion. (online ver.)
BingoBoingo: Yeah, I'd prefer a computer with less speed and a 20 year RTG for power, no recharging necessary.
BingoBoingo: Recently replaced the laptop battery after 3 years. Lithium ion seems more influenced by time decay that cycles, to the extent I have noticed so far
mircea_popescu: i'd expect it's maybe noisier but definitely not harmonic
mircea_popescu: mike_c: warren's getting smacked << i really was hoping for more action ;/
mircea_popescu: Mats_cd03: north koreans shouting ones and zeros into telephones have better uptime <<< yes well, there's a reason i've not seen three digits on a bill for years and years.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: hope there are no btc sniffing dogs << laugh, but i bet some bozo is working on ferreting out 'kulaks' through pheromonal sensing of one kind or another. fellow who walks around knowing he's loaded, probably can be smelled, in principle << women can definitely smell me.
asciilifeform: i heartily recommend the entire document, to any amateur maths types here.
mircea_popescu: http://girls.twistys.com/preview/dailyupdates/2014/06/02/emilyaddison-30527/images/full/16.jpg i guess he misses out on the feet then
gribble: I currently have notes waiting for agentx24, anarkitty, bakinat, bcb, bitcoingirl, cevidad, congrats, decimation, gaantr2, hydruid, Immukization, Immuzikkation, jmcorgan, jtrunerbtc, kyledrake, MurphyLawn, nubbins, nubbins`i, Phinnaeus, and ryepdx.
mircea_popescu: also in general, i find that what the resident expats say about BA is about as spot on as if they had never visited
mircea_popescu: and nobody's mugging anyone, that's for damned sure. i saw more muggings a day in new york than in a month of here.
mircea_popescu: i imagine they would prefer you don't take dollars out, however. not sure why you'd want to, but anyway.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: ^ mircea_popescu, chetty: can you comment? << yes i can comment. i carried a huge stack of bills inside, it's not that they allowed it, it's that they don't evenm know, cause they couldn't be bothered to find out.
asciilifeform: had the 'honour' of seeing this alive. i sometimes buy liquid soap, and for a few years after '09, it was mostly pisswater
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: a kind of 'soft' deindustrialization. << if that is soft i have no idea what is hard. and also, the people making milk in their back yard are being kept in check with regulation.
asciilifeform: thinking'd be, if i were to ask folks to cough up, say, a new pubkey algo with rigorous proof of hardness
asciilifeform: if i knew what thinking actually is, i'd be talking to me pet ai right now.
mircea_popescu: sometimes i suspect you don't understand what thinking actually is.
mircea_popescu: mdev: the public key argument thing, about it being exposed after the first transaction, not sure why that's an issue, RSA is based off handing out public keys, I know bitcoin uses ECDMA or whatever, but still if the public key can't be trusted << because cargo cult sekoority.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I made it on old forum. My guess is there are syncing problems between the two.
mircea_popescu: i enjoy seeing how the proles live now and again
mircea_popescu: benkay [...]<< i only ever found 1 acceptable cup in bsas << no actually there;s plenty, you just need good intel :D
mircea_popescu: i think ima just watch it for now :D
mike_c: doh, i coulda swore that worked
mdev: iwilcox, I may have linked him an article about it, that
mircea_popescu: mircea_popescu: mastercard told xapo to go fuck itself << if i recall, you're friends with the fellow who runs it, ask him wtf << well what's to ask ? boy likes girl, girl doesn't like boy. what would you ask him ?
mdev: mircea_popsecu just a dev who's interested in bitcoins, I was quieted in #bitcoin and recommended here when I got into a disagreement about reusing addresses
mdev: I wonder what the early bitcoiners that spent like 1k bitcoins on pizza's think about that now
benkay: mdev: i'll buy 'em lol
asciilifeform: mdev: i'm still not 100% sure what this channel's about, and i've been here for ages.
peterl: stepping out to mow the lawn, will voice myself when I am back later.
BingoBoingo: Hard to say. I imagine people who still brush these things off will be learning Forth in the Coal mines within a decade
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i know this. the lazy will pay.
BingoBoingo: I believe these were mentioned in the logs earlier today. This bite from the drama llama I haven't seen shared yet
ThickAsThieves: something occurs to me as i reach chapter 45 of Anathem - this is basically a quantum mechanics debate mapped over the story aspects of star wars
ThickAsThieves: I was smart enough to choose an A name
ThickAsThieves: i like how ATC is at the top
mike_c: why? i've heard good things previously.
mike_c: plus, i can't shoot my hetzner box in the head at will.
asciilifeform: i've caught myself wondering if a 'cloud' company which explicitly promises to steal and use your data for whatever purpose, might be even cheaper.
mike_c: benkay: link? i don't see dedicated hetzner's for less than $800 a year
adrrr: Hi, I received my piper wallet :) but wrong electrical outlet, maybe a specialist could advise me about the place to find an adapter (France) ? ty
danielpbarron: my brother is into beer making; his last batch was some sort of IPA and I liked it a lot (for someone who doesn't generally drink beer)
BingoBoingo: benkay: There are reasons I prefer distilled spirits. There are a few sulphur compounds that are too... unpleasant to be tasted if it can be avoided. (most wine avoids this problem. I imagine this is because the prefered flora producing fermentation are more civilized).
asciilifeform: hope there are no btc sniffing dogs << laugh, but i bet some bozo is working on ferreting out 'kulaks' through pheromonal sensing of one kind or another. fellow who walks around knowing he's loaded, probably can be smelled, in principle
BingoBoingo: It's a mundane problem of human stupidity abusing the human capacity for intelligence. I'd definitely call the venture Augustinian.
jurov: usd shiffing dogs? bah. i hope there are no btc sniffing dogs next year
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Yeah, I've been rereading early loper and looking back at the urbit groups.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I'd differ with you on the Godellian problem of 70's crapola being exotic.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: "I have a suspicion that the entire scheme is vulnerable to Gödelization." << I like how you raised this in 2010 and the problem of this in Urbit has only grown...
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Usually what I do. NAND is also relatively clean burning...
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I'm telling you if you minimize the pcb content of the fire it isn't any worse than the smell when other locals burn yard waste. Also hotter fires produce less smells.
mike_c: i disagree, boston is too cold.
lobbes: just had a yuengling at lunch - I like it as well
asciilifeform: i tasted his product, survived.
BingoBoingo: I haven't seen many home brews though that avoid the inadverdent inclusion of undesirable flora in their fermentation process.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I was more thinking of grain products, like beer, bread, etc. Where a rougher cheaper version of the same final product finds itself placed on the shelf as a "premium" good.
asciilifeform: the practical limit for 'shrinkflation' is, i imagine, the point where the pharmacy and its supply chain can no longer compete with your neighbour brewing soap from corpses or whatever in his cellar.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i'd guess that this kind of thing is driven by ordinary consumer product shrinkflation, rather than vice versa
asciilifeform: ^ i've been noticing this for years, evidently not the only one
BingoBoingo: pankkake: I never proposed anything that old... Everything I supposed is still 64 bit...
pankkake: well, if you can have the extra security, why not. but I feel like ripemd160 would be breakable before ecdsa ;)
mdev: well that seems to be the only argument i've seen, security wise as far as not reusing addresses
mdev: the public key argument thing, about it being exposed after the first transaction, not sure why that's an issue, RSA is based off handing out public keys, I know bitcoin uses ECDMA or whatever, but still if the public key can't be trusted
Naphex: aye, i shsould've said outputs :P
Naphex: and i want to send 0.5
Naphex: say i have 1 BTC in 1A
pankkake: but to distinguish transactions the process is : "I want to send 1 BTC" "ok, send me 1.00000832 BTC"
Naphex: i ment that if you use a single bitcoin address
pankkake: hm unless I am mistaken in what you want
Naphex: i'm guessing they just want to stay with the privacy line
mdev: #bitcoin ops quieted me, probably indefinitely because he says bitcoin address reuse is dangerous, even though link after link that i've found, while most discourage it, non i've seen actually say it's dangerous
mike_c: Naphex: in what way? i see it more like an actually useful entrepreneur club.
cgcardona: also pretty hipster i guess
cgcardona: yea I'm rails/haml/sass/coffeescript
cgcardona: i remember the site being visually quite nice
cgcardona: i remember seeing your site once but I'm spacing on what your stack was
benkay: mind you i'm not hiring 150/hr devs
benkay: this is not actually a problem i have.
cgcardona: i worked at Truila for a while and was on the hiring team for the mobile engineering dept. They offered really good salaries, stock, medical, etc and it was still hard to find people in SF
cgcardona: yea finding devs is the most challening thing. when in SF I witnessed many people raise money and then struggle to even find people to build their idea out.
benkay: well, a deal closed and the wire cleared this week so i'm feeling particularly good about that
cgcardona: we were in a small apartment at first but just got into something much nicer and cleaner this week w/ my own office. so this morning i'm particularly stoked :)
cgcardona: pretty good. My family moved from SF back to kauai about 2 months ago and we're finally in the groove. Working remotely w/ a team from the mainland. I'm very happy. thanks for asking. You?
davout: i'm off, ttyal
mircea_popescu: i am a new yorker.
mircea_popescu: then i leave and he's like trying to apologize and explaoin he meant no disrespect
mircea_popescu: point in case : i go into a tiny shop to have a pile of keys copied. guy starts working.
benkay: also i would like to borrow some dogecoin. will collateralize etc.
mircea_popescu: benkay, you realise the black marketr dollar is more of a future than a spot. i should already see this future collapse in the price today.
davout: "davout, i couldn't smell anything past your fanny" <<< bwhahaha
mircea_popescu: omfg check me out i made a multiple entendre