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davout: starsoccer: i already have someone willing to do it for only 100 BTC, sorry!
dub: now forum rocket scientists are like, SO IF I SEND YOU $50K YOU SEND ME 400BTC?!
dub: 'but I'll settle for US$50k!'
davout: i'm waiting for phinneaus to show up on -assets again, so i can pierce him a second butthole in front of everyone
fluffypony: princessnell favourited my tweet, I'm well on my way to Internet fame :-P
assbot: Dear conference organizers: my wife says I have enough t-shirts and you should start giving out trousers. Thank you for understanding.
ThickAsThieves: <+mircea_popescu> someone translate this ? /// looks Antifragile-inspired (i started reading it yesterday)
Mats_cd03: ;;later tell vexual no is that something i should care about
diana_coman: are the logs of this channel available as a dump (I know about http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/ but it seems to give them only day by day, while I wanted to play around with a bigger sample)
diana_coman: thanks BingoBoingo, I think I actually should be voiced if I get auth
Vexual: I left a shit triangle next to a dumpster last night
mircea_popescu: "The problem here is not the diagnosis, which I share, nor the proposed solutions, which are proper and potent to repel the growing democratic sickness that chokes human creation. Bitcoin provides us a critical escape from forced trust in unaccountable monopolies. However, trust in transactions, per se, should not be the object of ire and in fact cannot be if we want to participate in beneficial ways. Distributed ledg
asciilifeform: i've more battery in here than in the cabinets. sad.
asciilifeform: the old pots lines are gone where i live.
Mats_cd03: i suppose i should scale it back to natural disaster
dub: I have pots signal on my dsl line but I couldnt tell you the number
mircea_popescu: i had my own landline. it wasn't particularly useful
asciilifeform: i can get pseudo-landline (tack-on to fiber terminal) for around 10 usd / mo. but... why?
Mats_cd03: i still get fucking spam
Mats_cd03: neat, ill have something else i can do with the device im ordering
asciilifeform: all u.s. providers, last i checked, charged exactly the same on femtocell.
Mats_cd03: i generally presume incompetence before malice
asciilifeform: if i like, i desolder the rom and introduce mine.
Mats_cd03: i was under the impression the equipment for this kind of thing was approaching <$1000
Mats_cd03: i dunno if i can agree
asciilifeform: i suspect that: when they tape out a dud asic, they simply... take preorders longer.
asciilifeform: i can almost understand taking preorders if you're a broke, ragged dervish. but these folks have already exited that stage.
asciilifeform: 1024 if i recall.
Apocalyptic: I bet it's sub 1024 bit
mircea_popescu: i guess so
mircea_popescu: http://i.imgur.com/pbz2vxh.jpg
BingoBoingo: I really don't think we are making it to a third adjustment.
BingoBoingo: I hope ATC crashes to Doge prices for a while.
assbot: BitBet - May I suggest 9B difficulty? :: 6.44 B (8%) on Yes, 72.03 B (92%) on No | closed 1 month 2 weeks ago
TheNewDeal: actually I made money betting no for april http://bitbet.us/bet/712/bitcoin-difficulty-over-5-6b-before-april/ and may http://bitbet.us/bet/740/may-i-suggest-9b-difficulty/
jurov: to be precise, i did not bet against difficulty, too. just sold them at sufficiently high price
jurov: i did
mike_c: i think we'll lose, but i like the odds now.
BingoBoingo: I think so.
BingoBoingo: I doubt it, but I bet he has a garage.
BingoBoingo: I'm also considering less concentrated spots, like the Hillbillies in Texas and the MiddleWest whose data center is their garage.
BingoBoingo: Well, knc ships miners out to other people doesn't it? I think Asicminer is somewhere costal south China.
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell TheNewDeal I'm afraid I'm out of 'No' stake to sell without losing my excitement.
BingoBoingo: Alright. When summer cooks the miners and its time to pay you I'll ask for an address.
mike_c: ok. i'm going to send from a hot wallet, so don't send my winnings back there :)
mike_c: k, send addr sometime and i will send payment
mike_c: what fun is that. i'll take it at cost.
BingoBoingo: mike_c: I'm amenable to offering it at a discount, i.e. selling the 0.5 stake for less than 0.5 BTC.
mircea_popescu: jurov i think he's done plenty of math. it goes like this : "im too old to get it up anymore. will be dead soon anyway. who the fuck cares."
jurov: i really don't know if it's realistic, but i don't think buffett haven't done any math around it
BingoBoingo: mike_c: I'd be amenable to selling up to half my bitcoin's stake in that bet.
jurov: .... but dunno i know, maybe it's all just a bubble
jborkl: I tried reading the actm thread and gave up,
benkay: i guess its just politics :D
jborkl: I rarely go to the forums anymore, but I guess all the actm peeps finally figured out it was a scam?
mircea_popescu: but i mean what's the difference
jborkl: ;;later tell mircea_popescu I have a idea for the cherry truck, remind me next time
jborkl: ;;tldr mircea_popescu I have a idea for the cherry truck, remind me next time
benkay: mircea_popescu: i was under the impression the reds died out under a disease barrage from the early western explorers, far before the smallpox blankets.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Probably next week. I'll just need some fiberglass to duct tape to this lawnmower.
TheNewDeal: I think the more avenues where btc/doge can be traded, the lower doge/btc will become
fluffypony: I expect to be like a well-matured red wine by the time I die
jurov: BingoBoingo I gather you want to taxidermize yourself alive?
fluffypony: BingoBoingo: that is a great name, I much prefer it over the original
TheNewDeal: plus I'm hoping for yes
TheNewDeal: I wouldn't dare attempt something along those lines
BingoBoingo: TheNewDeal: I'm telling you that Datacenters in the summer aren't pretty. Mix that up with Knc's generally sloppy build quality...
TheNewDeal: bingoboing I'm also looking at the short term history for comparison
BingoBoingo: TheNewDeal: I'm telling you with the diff bets you have to consider the externalities.
mircea_popescu: i guess.
BingoBoingo: I really lacks all of the useful system tools. I'm afraid it might tell me I need to install cat if I try to use it now
fluffypony: something I said?
mircea_popescu: aite i'll photo document soonish
dignork: benkay: http://www.bluecoat.com/company-blog/2013-05-09/what%E2%80%99s-your-ssl-traffic-trying-hide // i've seen similar hardware deployed by companies to monitor their employees traffic. Single point of failure. Awesome point to hack.
TheNewDeal: I'm not confident enough with my fish via grill skills
TheNewDeal: but back to this private bet. You're saying I couldnt bet both sides at the beginning, then hand out the password to close group of people?
TheNewDeal: I have accidentally been requesting new addresses when betting the same side at a later time. Didn't realize you could just resend to same
TheNewDeal: could I bet both sides at the beginning as well?
mircea_popescu: <pankkake> and it's not mp being wrong, it's mp admits being wrong << no its not. i always admit it when i'm wrong, it's just im not wrong that often
kakobrekla: AncientAliensBTC someone made an app to simulate that i think
AncientAliensBTC: How does betting later affect my odds? Say I bet 1 BTC (as the site shows) with a 3.5 BTC payout. How much will I cash in on my early betting vs lose out to my position becoming more popular/dilute other side?
mircea_popescu: whoever made the mp being wrong bitbet : i was all for it but the mods shot it down.
dexX7: i think i can up myself
mike_c: AncientAliensBTC: i see betting both sides of a bitbet as a bet on action. if the bet receives a lot of action, you should do well.
mircea_popescu: all the goodstuff i read on the paper were romanian cb white papers in the 80s and 90s
mike_c: Apocalyptic: i am trying to :)
mike_c: i thought you might have some insight to measures worth understanding vs. ones that are just noise.
mike_c: mircea_popescu: well, i am trying to internalize money supply. like it seems m2 floats around 4x m1. the fed says m3 is meaningless, but others say it isn't. and i don't entirely understand m4 yet.
TheNewDeal: Someone found the truth Re:I am ... by cshark @slashdot http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=4562153&cid=45709487
AncientAliensBTC: More seriously though, anyone want to discuss the betting of both sides on BitBet? I'm curious about discussing the theory behind the results of the data dump.
mike_c: mircea_popescu: hard to describe. i am trying to think about how many dollars there are, which is obviously a complicated topic.
TheNewDeal: surpised I haven't heard speculation that satoshi was an alien.
benkay: i have an alien miner
mgio: he lives in the US, as do I, and the terms of the loan are pretty straightforward
mgio: I'm probably more patient than I should be
mgio: i see
joesmoe: i've done a few transactions on otc a while back
joesmoe: i'm suprised i'm not
mircea_popescu: same goes to you that i said to mgio : unless you're in assbot l2's trust you can't up yourself.
joesmoe: i can't seem to get assbot to like me, its being a real ass