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ThickAsThieves: if i can make the time
ThickAsThieves: i was thinking of making a bitcoin comic
mircea_popescu: i r just saying so it's said. not intending to persuade.
mircea_popescu: they pick you up, you go "sorry, I sold them".
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i don't see any evidence whatsoever is th problem
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'd guess: much of the panic re: btc 'taint' etc. comes from u.s. folks, who can be sent to the gasenwagen on very loose - rather than hard, 'scientific' - evidence.
mircea_popescu: am i misreading ?
ThickAsThieves: which i think they changed to Open Bazaar
ThickAsThieves: i know he's darkmarket
mircea_popescu: mike_c: ugh. shame on your family. << bitcoin-otc isn't really intended for https anyway is it. or am i missing your point ?
ThickAsThieves: which i havent even tried yet
ThickAsThieves: i got an NFC ring
mircea_popescu: i don't mean nonsense gathering a pile of cash
ThickAsThieves: "Same here. I think IQ is bullshit and is a way of the gevernments to bracket us. Qualifications are a load of crap too. Who need a piece of paper to tell people that they can create the next "E=MC Squared"."
mircea_popescu: i what ?!
benkay: i'm surprised MP didn't get more 'smooth talker' noms
Azelphur: I see
Azelphur: asciilifeform: oh, then I'm confused
Azelphur: asciilifeform: that site served me the wrong image the first time I loaded the page...so confusing
mircea_popescu: other over our situations, when she in her grandmotherly fashion tried to convince me that I would be “healthier” eating cat food (like her) rather than trying to get all my substance from peanut butter and bread. I couldn’t quite go there, but the impression was made.
mircea_popescu: In retrospect, the situation was laughable because here I was living on peanut butter and bread (or Ritz crackers when I could afford to splurge) for months at a time. When I got to know this poor figure and heard her story I felt worse for her plight than for my own (I, after all, I thought I had everything to in front of me). I was genuinely appalled at one point, as we exchanged stories and commiserated with each
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i hought you loved hypercard ?
mircea_popescu: i use the plainest language of anyone i'm aware of, and yet people claim you need a degree to argue with me. wtf is that all about. ☟︎
mike_c: so i guess it's a euphimism for dumb language.
mike_c: for sure, you can't speak about things intelligently with plain language. i can't tell you what's wrong with your computer in plain language.
mircea_popescu: i'd be worried.
asciilifeform: s and children experience that they can guess faster than they can learn. This latter thing is what I mostly associate with stupidity, however, and why I do _not_ equate intelligence with absence of stupidity. Quite the contrary, the more intelligent, the more potential to be stupid in just this crucial way, to believe that what you can pick out of your own mind at zero cost is better than what must be dug up fr
asciilifeform: 'I have never seen unintelligent or children of average intelligence muster the intellectual power that causes them to believe their own mind to be better and more trustworthy than reality, although the enjoyment of every kind of magic and fairytales and mystic and wizardry is a sign that many _wish_ their minds were better than reality at a certain age. I have concluded that it is a phenomenal curse when it i ☟︎
mircea_popescu: so can i use the even-ness of the 129th digit in your measurement reliably ?
mircea_popescu: basically the problem of intelligent people is that the knowledge needed is so vast... i could readily render the pretense and nonsense of it, but i don't have the time/patience to hang out in every nook and cranny.
mike_c: i think it's somewhat valid. plain = not a lot of jargon.
fluffypony: ThickAsThieves: I'd love to have a voice channel, but I think it would work better if we scheduled it - like a session every two weeks or something?
mircea_popescu: My introduction to the real American nightmare starts back in the early ‘80s. Unfortunately after more than 16 years of school, somewhere along the line I picked up the absurd, pompous notion that I could read and understand plain English. Some friends introduced me to a group of people who were having ‘tax code’ readings and discussions.
mthreat: i saw that building after he hit it. It was the IRS building, and he targeted it on purpose
mircea_popescu: i remember this, was years ago
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i live next to a field full of these things. the fellow i used to rent from owned one. about 40k usd.
benkay: but also i'm running a different, longer play.
benkay: mircea_popescu: i thought lispers were all bitter losers to begin with
benkay: hey you think i leave details out of stories you should have seen fluffypony earlier
mircea_popescu: benkay a, i guess you leftthat part out.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves i never saw proof they scammed anyone, if that helps.
mircea_popescu: "you dumb fuck, i have to hear from random passerby';s how utterly you suck at your job ? go fuck a goad in the market, you're never working in this line again"
benkay: asciilifeform: i had no intention of giving that impression. i'd love to own a machine shop but I need a pile more capital to make that happen. ergo...software.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo: ThickAsThieves: Heretic coin seems dead https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=459028.msg6551501#msg6551501 <<< these people are so retarded it bleeds right off the page. on one hand derps wonder why nobody mines/cares about the coin, and hnt at conspiraci. on the other, guy trying to slel 3mn coins, no news in a month. GEE FUCK I WONDER WHY IT IS NOBODY MINES IT
asciilifeform: programmers << i thought benkay ran a machine shop ?
benkay: "neener neener i got yer best"?
benkay: just 'cause their boys want to hack with me doesn't mean i get to tell their old firm what to do.
benkay: and i'm sitting over here not exactly swimming in work but definitely a bit busy helping people who trust me to run the technical side of their businesses, and definitely overwhelmed by the talent seeking work with me.
mircea_popescu: cazalla: BingoBoingo: didn't you know that the biggest Australian export after resources are bitcoin scams? (inputs.io, hair dresser ipos, kenilworth and on it goes) << i've often thought of this. add patrick harnett and a whole other bunch of new zealand folk
benkay: so last night i'm at the user group thing, making friends, introducing people to each other, the usual shit necessary to keep a user group's momentum up, and not one, not two but three people on whose skills and capabilities i've been sold for a while come up to me gently asking about opportunities to contract
mircea_popescu: i guess sort-of yeah, that's a point.
mircea_popescu: in spite of which she did everything all night long, i took her to breakfast and then dropped her off in the arms of her mothar.
mircea_popescu: i mean, *I* have more tit.
mircea_popescu: neither did she. i have more tit.
benkay: i also had nothing to bring to the table for those years. arguably still don't.
mircea_popescu: there's this chick that looks just about 12 (and later confirmed her weight as 43 - !!! - kgs) that takes a liking to my girl, they chat, i buy them wine,
mircea_popescu: i take girl to local bdsm brunch yesterday. bout fiddy local people, all very nice and friendly, some bar somewhere that you'd think you've died and it's greenwich village in 1980 all over again
benkay: not that i found any worth my time to begin with, so i don't even have a sample of potential masters to compare to each other.
benkay: i spent my early twenties looking for a man worth my loyalty and then gave up.
benkay: i can't wait until my taxable dollar amount is negligible
ThickAsThieves: i'll have to get it from one of them next time
mircea_popescu: i can rant while you talk.
ThickAsThieves: i mentioned irc at one point, and someone asked, why dont you guys just use voice chat?
ThickAsThieves: so i've been getting lost in the world of day traders lately, found some google hangouts where people do screen shares and voice chat about charts, etc
ThickAsThieves: other than the expense of the change, i bet it works out well
moiety: i'm still running intel celery because my laptop broke so back to an old one. it's dire!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i've not bought anything intel the past 20ish years.
mircea_popescu: ah, snow... i remember this snow thing
kakobrekla: its been so long since i used that cmd.
kakobrekla: i forgot.
danielpbarron: but i don't see how the blockchain reveals any info that definitively associates the funds with you
danielpbarron: and i suppose if you send from a machine that is associated with you, that could be traced
fluffypony: I've gotta bounce, at a friend's house and we're going to go eat and drink
danielpbarron: if i send funds to an address, you cannot be sure its my address; maybe i gave them away to a random address
benkay: i'm a wee bit more observant than that. but you know, ambiguity and IRC.
fluffypony: I know you weren't, I'd have been surprised if you thought I was American :-P
benkay: (i'm not calling you names, fluffypony - that's me ridiculing myself)
benkay: can someone who's not a retarded american tell me if i'm off my fucking rocker?
benkay: i'm telling you that it's adequately doable right now that the sidechannels are the real risk, and that no amount of blockchainery is going to ameliorate your sidechannel risks.
fluffypony: well we'll see, I think time will tell whether untraceability is a desirous thing
benkay: okay so the story is that i get busted for buying badTunes credits because i sent coins to the badTunes address?
benkay: but illegal iTunes that i'm not supposed to have?
fluffypony: no - I mean if you're buying digital goods
benkay: that i did what now? sent coins to my drug dealer?
benkay: so the dealer can't say i sent coins to that address with monero?
fluffypony: and I said it wasn't and explained why ☟︎
benkay: and i'm telling you i can buy coins untraceably right now.
fluffypony: no story - I'm arguing that a use case will exist for untraceability (or optional traceability, if you will) in future
benkay: who can figure out who i bought what from now?
fluffypony: I would hazard that buying offline is even more dangerous than OTC on IRC
benkay: i tell you man, red herring.
ThickAsThieves: all i know is day trading it has been much profitable
fluffypony: I'll be over here in the Monero corner giggling evilly
benkay: i'm interacting with the system gpg binary like god intended
davout: "i'm just eating an apple like god intended"
BingoBoingo: benkay: I'm just chewing on some raw wheat like god intended.
benkay: Diablo-D3: i'm eating biscuits and gravy and it's the best thing ever
kakobrekla: i will do base64 encode of the json, motherfucker.
davout: pankkake: i have 1.4.13, doesn't seem to have any ECC enabled
davout: kakobrekla: one advantage i'd see with gpg is that it would be easier for humans to use it manually