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mircea_popescu: - I never met any of the higher Eldars, but I did once meet an Eldar in Training. I don’t know his real name but people called him Legolas. He had long blond hair, was dressed like a 19th century count, and wore a pendant that had both a Christian Cross and Thor’s Hammer on it.
mircea_popescu: i'd rather respect indian hajira.
punkman: I'm gonna call the form Iterated Closed-Bag Exchange, more relevant
mircea_popescu: i actually read this before.
mircea_popescu: If a 12 year-old were to write 'I fink that Enid Blyton iz bettern than that Emily Bronte bint cos she has written loads more books' then one could reasonably excuse the spelling as reflective of the stupidity of the mind that produced the content.
punkman: "TODO: Is that 'no other state' thing valid? What if a bot wants to do some behavior only once, but when exactly it does so is randomly determined? I believe this could require some saved information besides the history of moves, but this seems like a valid strategy."
mircea_popescu: After seven years of the new regime, I had the opportunity to compare the class of 1999 with the class of 1992. In 1992 I set an course in Artificial Intelligence requiring students to solve six exercises, including building a Prolog interpreter. In 1999, six exercises had shrunk to one; which was a 12 line Prolog program for which eight weeks were allotted for students to write it. A special class was laid on for stu ☟︎
mircea_popescu: yes but from what i've seen, as a sum
punkman: if anyone wants to describe a bot, I'll code it
thestringpuller: I'll have to see how you did colorization
punkman: I was looking at a few interesting papers from this guy the other day http://dpennock.com/
punkman: mircea_popescu: probably publishable as a paper if you can be bothered to run in that threadmill << not a big fan of academics, but I can blag it now
asciilifeform: i especially liked the 'obsolete' chapter on mechanical computers
mircea_popescu: i thought that's like, my most heretic view.
punkman: so once upon the time I was a math student, but then I forgot everything, and now I'm looking for a couple of good books. I found this one http://www.amazon.com/dp/0486409163/ . Any other suggestions?
punkman: did nubbins have a blog, or am I remembering some other sausage-blog
punkman: I think I should make a special feed for penguin though
mircea_popescu: anyway, trained girlz, can make it. i care not for the city :D
mthreat: mircea_popescu: what would be considered good in italy or germany. I've never had romanian pizza
Namworld: Apple stock at 100? Was there a split or did it drop a lot? I think it was around 500-800 not long ago.
Mats_cd03: i wonder how long it will take for a decent price signal to materialize
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves can't be large ? hm. the hansa was very large. i believe it can be quite large.
chetty: I think closed is kinda relative tho, more like the semi-permeable membrane
ThickAsThieves: i'm more referring to the the dynamics of a closed society in an effort to bring quality/robustness or whatever
ThickAsThieves: i also wonder if age is a factor as well
ThickAsThieves: understood, i'm more pointing out that size is a factor, as in, it being closed isn't enough, it also can't be large
FabianB: mircea_popescu: my logs are burried in old backups on disks at a place i'm unlikely to be at in the next 2 to 3 weeks, so unless it's still useful by then i'll keep them there
ThickAsThieves: <+mircea_popescu> such are the blessings of closed society : that art may flourish. democracy and social mobility allows for no such thing. //// or a *small* society --- but maybe i'm splitting hairs
moiety: chetty: i'm a disgrace i know XD i find it so hard when they are such idiots
moiety: i upset the doge people last night
moiety: ;; later tell BingoBoingo I simply said "fuck you" to someone and the whole place started convulsing with butthurt.. and then made it worse by demonstrating remorse lvl : -40
decimation: lol Carlyle has the same "non-persons" theory: "If the unfathomable Universe has decided to reject Human Beavers pretending to be Men; and will abolish, pretty rapidly perhaps, in hideous mud-deluges, their 'markets' and them, unless they think of it??In that case it were better to think of it: and the Democracies and Universal Suffrages, I can observe, will require to modify themselves a good deal!"
asciilifeform: i never understood the popularity of the crud. an ip-kvm is what, a few hundy? why attach proprietary strange to your front bus?
decimation: I'm glad I didn't in retrospect - was gonna buy a supermicro - before, I could pretend it was secure, now we know otherwise
decimation: I considered buying a server with that feature so I could remotely access it without a monitor
mircea_popescu: to be a modest chap, the logs kinda exist because i had this irresponsible attitude where i'd only log while awake, and so things got lost.
mircea_popescu: mthreat seems reasonable. were yopu able to find my 2012 bits or did i accidentally only send you one file of two ?
mthreat: mircea_popescu: ok once I get Azelphur's, i'll turn them all into a mysql dump and send it to kakobrekla. Then once kako gets them on log.b-a, i'll just crawl-backfill.
benkay: i've always thought it a rather bad idea to be burning everything at hand, just on the principle that i don't want to be breathing crap all the time.
mircea_popescu: i wonder how many of the inept scientists of today realise just how amusing their global warming pretenses are
decimation: well, I don't have french or italian, but Shakspeare's plays were ... poetry
kakobrekla: but if theres a coherent version out there i can parse it
mthreat: yours only had march/april 2013 I think
kakobrekla: my logs are all fucked up i dun wanna parse that.
mthreat: kakobrekla: I'll be parsing the log file asciilifeform provided, so I can put it in whatever format, or you can just take the irc log file and parse it on your end.
benkay: i mean i need more coffee and a caning.
benkay: i'm referring to the character in the play/movie.
benkay: i've only seen the movie.
benkay: unequivocal: the 98% are almost perfectly good, while the 2% are almost perfectly evil. After all, the 98% are nice to almost everyone, while the 2% are mean to those who are nice to almost everyone, and nice only to a tiny minority who are mean to almost everyone. Of course, for much of human history, this is precisely how morality worked, in many people’s minds. But I dare say it’s a result that would make moderns uncomfortable."
benkay: well i'm probably wrong, but STM doesn't actively work against KR - just refuses to help him in his immoral quest
mthreat: if he does that, i'll just have to recrawl to make the links work
mthreat: <mircea_popescu> btw mthreat wouldja be interested in filling in the logs for the first missing year, and generate a drop-in blob kakobrekla can put into his log thing too ? << I got asciilifeform's ba-turd file. But I'm not sure what format kako wants. search.b-a gets all of its info from log.b-a by crawling, since I link to it in the search results.
mircea_popescu: i just get the arguments
mircea_popescu: i think the deal is kako gets the praise for the logs,
benkay: and i think punkman
mircea_popescu: i'm not a professor because i find fucking and beating a few selected girls at a time a lot more effectual than merely speaking to an entire gaggle, who also cling to naive misrepresentations as of their "rights" and "freedoms".
gribble: Why I am Not a Professor - Lambda Associates: <http://www.lambdassociates.org/blog/decline.htm>; my pdf copy: <http://babel.ls.fi.upm.es/~pablo/Jumble/decline.pdf>; Former HCC student charged in 1-year-old's death - Herald-Mail: <http://articles.herald-mail.com/2013-05-28/news/39587015_1_first-degree-murder-second-degree-murder-former-hcc>
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the part i find the lulziest about these recent academic papers on google page rank is just how utterly broken it is in the field, defeated by hundreds if not thousands of different approaches implemented by scores more different agencies.
punkman: mircea_popescu, I'll give it a look, see how much I grok
mircea_popescu: omfg i love mthreat
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i recall we discussingsomething similar months ago
mircea_popescu: and by what's missing, i mean ego. the bots must consider themselves equally important to the whole world.
mircea_popescu: by crap i mean, i suspect the academic used WAY TO FEW bots. use 100s of each type, and do millions of rounds, for goof statistics. similar things.
mircea_popescu: punkman i would be very interested to see what happens if someone were to take the guy;'s idea, clean all the crap off it, and then add what's missing.
punkman: mircea_popescu: yeah maybe I can do a simulation
mircea_popescu: i know for one i would never marry in other way than through making some old fart pay for it thus, were i living in 1814
benkay: ;;later tell bitcoinpete <bitcoinpete> at the club i ran into some classmates from highschool. the looks on their faces were pretty golden // whence the startle?
dignork: it is a general weak system problem - anyone knowing my bank account details (any freaking vendor i had business before) can create bad transactions in my name, he might get some money, or not, I'll definitely get some headache
assbot: Most blatant extortion I've ever seen on localbitcoins.com forums : Bitcoin
mthreat: <+Azelphur> mthreat: I hear you want logs? I have Apr 11 2012 onwards << myeah that'd be great
mircea_popescu: incidentally his definition is both a) quite strong and b) what i actually use
dignork: I don't know him personally, will throw a comment
punkman: "So, how would an eigendemocracy suss out the truth about who trusts whom on which subject?  I don’t have a very good answer to this, and am open to suggestions.  The best idea so far is to use Facebook for this purpose, but I don’t know exactly how."
dignork: Technocracy step I : http://www.scottaaronson.com/blog/?p=1820&re=1
mircea_popescu: but i only started using it seriously in august
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I think you might predate the tradition
asciilifeform: does somebody still have log gaps? i've got a nearly continuous ~90MB turd starting at oct. 2012
kakobrekla: no, i upgraded to no backup at all
Vexual: i prefered the one about the crow in the swamp
Vexual: i can count
ThickAsThieves: <+Vexual> im not one /// ha! i was gonna day 'does Vexual count?'
mircea_popescu: i aspire that one day the taxpayer should spend more on this than on finding a cure for cancer.
mircea_popescu: i wonder how many privately retained vexual interpretation experts exist so far.
Vexual: i want my 3 bc back
ThickAsThieves: i just dont wanna remove the Bitcoin Fundnation thing from my blog :(
Vexual: i got a free ticket to hong kong thing, cost me 3bc to be disallowed onto the plane
mircea_popescu: i didn't get what specifically is involved, other than being on an approved list
ThickAsThieves: then i can bitch at them in their forum
ThickAsThieves: but i had to sign up for it to be allowed at their annual meeting
ThickAsThieves: not that i want it
Vexual: i delete my logs weekly
mircea_popescu: for that matter, i don't know how one can go through highschool thus.
mircea_popescu: Vexual i have no idea how one can go through a lifetime and fuck less than a coupla dozen people.
mircea_popescu: those 5% lied and it's a neat 25-50-25 i bet
assbot: ODB - Baby, I got your money [*original uncencored video*] - YouTube
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: chording keyboard would've worked great on phones << In grad school I became a master of the Blackberry arts. Ran a BES instance with one user (self)
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: Haha. Sorta? Well I guess Mike Caldwell came in here and it was a discussion about the USG.
bitcoinpete: and i'm off to the course. ciao!
mircea_popescu: don't say "it" to me like it means something bish!!! i'm eighteen lines deep
mircea_popescu: benkay: <Vexual> not atc\ // i can't tell if this is the real Vexual or if his nick's been suborned by the most clever team to date << as opposed to what, before ?