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davout: TheNewDeal: i think what you're referring to is nodes banning some of their peers, you don't really ban nodes from the network
davout: mthreat: i know a guy that did if you're interdasted
TheNewDeal: I'm just thinking in terms of my vending machine example
TheNewDeal: i just started reading about this statoshi client today so forgive my ignorance http://coinchomp.com/2014/05/07/announcing-statoshi-realtime-bitcoin-node-statistics/
davout: mircea_popescu: thinking about it, i'm usually not very fond of arguments that nodes should behave a particular way, simply interested in the case against transparently relaying all legal txes, even if they are double spends
davout: mircea_popescu: "it was argued this isn't so smart." <<< i'd be interested in reading the argument
mircea_popescu: anyway, node behaviour is going to be the major topic of 2015 i suspect.
davout: i think it's easier to handle an obvious double spend than to keep track of 'good' vs. 'evil' nodes
davout: pankkake mircea_popescu i tend to think it's better to transparently relay both txes, so that they're much easier to detect if you care about them
pankkake: iirc the payment protocol (I know, right) can make propagating the transaction the responsibility of the merchant
moiety: davout: I can't find any screens of it. here's the logo https://bitcointa.lk/data/avatars/m/78/78316.jpg?1393513983 Bitcoin Socially it was called.
TheNewDeal: can I get a linky to their solution?
pankkake: davout: I've read some interesting debates but I don't remember them
davout: am i the only one to think it's actually stupid to not relay double spends ?
mircea_popescu: it's about 96% reliable atm i think
TheNewDeal: I thought you could just send 2 transactions before a block is mined
TheNewDeal: ok what happens if I have a laundromat and the washer accept bitcoin. Someone finds out they can just come and get two loads for the price of 1, dry 2 loads for the price of 1, etc
TheNewDeal: ok I have a stupid question. What happens if I have two vending machines that sit side by side and both accept bitcoin. Will people have to wait for 6 confirmations to receive goods, or is there some other way to receive their bitcoin safely?
mircea_popescu: on reading http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/news/f-derp-short-risky-bitcoin-startups/2014/06/25 towards where it says "the log of the original discussion", am i the only one for whom that link comes as some sort of doge thing rather than a log linkj ?
pankkake: wait I've been running a node for years, can I get paid?!
moiety: davout, it was exactly the same as facebook but orange and had bitcoin symbols everywhere. i think it failed so badly, theytried to sell it and couldn't even pan it off
moiety: mircea_popescu: a question I have since repeated tomyself so many times.
mircea_popescu: :p remember kitten, one of the first things i said to you was wtf you doing with the doge
moiety: i'm learning quick though mircea_popescu :]
pankkake: I had a blog when it was trendy to have one
davout: hm, i guess @fuck is taken, so tis possibru
pankkake: I *had* a Twitter account but was never really active, and closed it years ago
davout: or takeable i'd assume
bitcoinpete: i doubt @headfucking is taken
pankkake: funny though, friends randomly met some guy that knew me from what.cd, I have achieved mild internet celebrity
bitcoinpete: just wanted to see if i could attribute your articles there
mircea_popescu: but since pankkake got me re-reading old things, yea, i like this fluffypony bit :
davout: "(but yes I said it first)" <<< i think i said that in 2010 ;)
mircea_popescu: (but yes I said it first)
pankkake: I googled "Bitcoin is not a payment network" and guess who I end up finding… MPOE-PR
bitcoinpete: davout seems they follow the action on -assets and know who i am, much to the surprise of a developer i know visiting paris
moiety: someone tell me again why i run a site that attracts utter retardation on a frequent basis
davout: bitcoinpete: yeah, i know the guys and the place
mircea_popescu: i guess that argument is always available.
mircea_popescu: justusranvier i dunno. as a compulsive reader of supreme court caselaw up until about the 70s i must say it was pretty good literature.
ThickAsThieves: i forget exactly, we've discussed it here i think
mircea_popescu: “It is not the role of this court to identify and plug loopholes,” Scalia wrote. “It is the role of good lawyers to identify and exploit them, and the role of Congress to eliminate them if it wishes.” << i could see scalia as bitcoin chief justice.
mircea_popescu: a. well then i guess friend can see the log or w/e.
ThickAsThieves: i have ph# if you really want it
mircea_popescu: right but i mean of whom or what or in general, who needs to be hit over the head with the observation that the bitcoin space has had a gaap for years and they're being ignorant.
ThickAsThieves: it has a "Rate this Research" button on the bottom, so i'm guessing itll be on their website somewhere
bitcoinpete: a "bitcoiner" i know from calgary is in paris atm and headed to the house of bitcoin
pankkake: I think he removed the post
pankkake: I think davout does
rithm: but i've seen them in mexico, the vigin islands, and western samoa
rithm: i should say 3
rithm: i've seen WU operate in poor countries
ThickAsThieves: "The 17 most important things Google announced at I/O" lol
mircea_popescu: i so wouldlike to see someone grow some fucking balls and argue in court that they're not hold to do anything the irs wants because well... the irs doesn't follow the law.
rithm: why have i been filing these taxes and keeping these papers for so long if I can just say "i dunno"
rithm: that's what i learned
rithm: nm i decided not to finish that sentence
mircea_popescu: like 3 posts / head i tcomes to
mircea_popescu: actually i think something else is the most interesting property, and sorta too lazyto write blogpost
pankkake: I think predictable money supply is the most interesting property
mircea_popescu: I encourage you to visit the links: the profiles section will help you in your daily worshiping of myself, while the other sections will allow you to experience the productions of some other great minds. However, you will come to the inevitable conclusion that I’m better than all of them combined.
mircea_popescu: anyway, i like your newfound activity.
pankkake: I agree the formulation isn't ideal. I mean, what if block reward was 1 BTC forever
assbot: Why I nixed p2p, colored coins and all that jazz pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: pankkake http://trilema.com/2013/why-i-nixed-p2p-colored-coins-and-all-that-jazz/#comment-101734 fixed link nao can has pingback
mircea_popescu: (did i fuck up my math ?)
mircea_popescu: o wait. I'm lambchop ?! ☟︎
mircea_popescu: "You ask why people invest... Let me answer that for you as I have decades of experience providing analysis to investors... "
Namworld: I'll ask dooglus if he can do the same. Jurov or wao can publish both signed text files on the verification page.
Namworld: I trust jurov not to lose/have list of secrets compromised. Although list/signatures might need to be updated if Coinroll is sold again to another party or list is compromised.
mircea_popescu: Namworld if you want i can sign it for you. then whoever wants to say you changed it will also have to say i signed a new version.
pankkake: this is why I usually don't publish after writing, but hey…
pankkake: but maybe I am confused about the grammar
pankkake: I thought about it, and decided "there is" was the correct form, as I am saying "services like this exist"
mircea_popescu: i still say you should make a blog.
mircea_popescu: or should i say allowed.
mircea_popescu: punkman i never got bacarrat, but you know what might be a good idea ?
mircea_popescu: i guess also
Namworld: mircea, I'll probably just post it on the gambling forum where it is relevant and let people pitch in.
punkman: I want to make a nice provably fair baccarat game. Get all those chinese bitcoins.
Namworld: I don't have one. Don't think I write often enough to attract any kind of regular audience regardless.
Namworld: Here's what I have thus far: http://pastebin.com/bQj4fSht
Namworld: So I got some stuff written, concerning logic behind it and proposed change to such systems.
Namworld: So I'll probably do a public campaign concerning all venues.
Namworld: Re what I was talking about the other day concerning provably fair systems. To be fair, most casinos do the same thing re providing new server seeds after user's seed.
mircea_popescu: i write html in wp
pankkake: another reason I want to switch out of wordpress: writing HTML
pankkake: indeed… I've crapped on most of my hrefs while writing too
pankkake: I have another post coming :D I've deciced against a third by inserting it in the second
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2013/why-i-nixed-p2p-colored-coins-and-all-that-jazz/%3Eexchanges%3C/a%3E,%20%3Ca%20href=
ThickAsThieves: the address i bet from
mircea_popescu: pankkake i'll have to revisit that nao that nasdaq wants to join teh fray :D
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves: basically i bet while half asleep last night and have no idea on what <<< mike_c i think we should cater to this guy :D
rithm: like i can take a few pics and select a theme and boom slideshow
ThickAsThieves: i figure i want a lil gold anyway
rithm: i have one ThickAsThieves
ThickAsThieves: so i'ma get some
ThickAsThieves: and i emailed asking about gold ones cuz the website says out of stock
rithm: i love to be tied up and flogged
rithm: now that i know this