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phf: mircea_popescu: i noticed
that here focusing on something is an incentive for others
to also focus on it
trinque: and if
the nemesis is
there in
the mind even in people who are quite functional yet, what happens
to an old failed man?
mircea_popescu: none of
the self-harming behaviours of mankind are examined, or deliberately chosen
mircea_popescu: why phrase it as
this rather
than plainly "i will" ?
to place disincentive on others doing it ? (hey, if i do it he won't) rather
than incentive (he's doing it, let me do it
too) ?
a111: Logged on 2017-03-09 19:06 phf: (if nobody else steps up, i'm going
to bring one up in a day or
two)
phf: asciilifeform: you've made a lot of unfounded assumptions. somehow everyone acts in bad faith unless
they involve asciilifeform in
their going ons?
a111: Logged on 2017-03-11 01:29 phf: it never occured
that he wanted
the link. when he said "i want snap4 source" i assumed he's
talking about
the original alpha source, or a complete working lispm emulator from scratch, a spherical horse of "working, readable lispm emulator", rather
then what's actually
there
mircea_popescu: consider
the point!
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-11#1625177 <<
to
this i could say, "the defensive play, of course, being
to always link
to
the baseline when a field is discussed"
to which his retort would be, of course, "yeah and he;ll just say a string with kindergarten in it".
☝︎ mircea_popescu: nobody ever kicks anyone out of a dinner for being vegetarian, why
the hell would anyone worry what people
think of him for not having done x
thing de rigueur.
mircea_popescu: hey,
they're free people self determination etc rite ?
mircea_popescu: a large part of
the problem being
that in a "democracy"
there's ~no incentive
to behave in a less shitty manner.
trinque: getting old and having failed is a
thing.
mircea_popescu: alternatively,
they a) didn't know (either item) ; b) didn't care ; c) didn't know
they don't know ; d) didn't care
they don't know and so folllowing.
trinque: "such and so went
to X and look here are pictures of
them drinking bad booze in plastic cups"
trinque: pretty sure
that's how it works now
mircea_popescu: suppose in
the future
that's how it works, dating consists of about 5bn notifications ~per capita~ of "hey, x is about
to go out with $randomdude"
mircea_popescu briefly imagines how a world like
that would be, where he;'d get notifications of every vaguely eligible bachelorette on an hourly basis. good god what a
terrible crapsack fit for sf.
mircea_popescu: even now, you understand
this alfie, EVEN NOW
there's girls spreading for random dorks somewhere notwithstanding you're looking for a girl just like
them. and
they won't as much as whatsapp a notification
to you!
phf: our sole objective will be making all
the asciilifeform's assumptions
true
phf: i would very much like
to start a clandestine operation called "the whisperers", but since it's not in
the logs, someone else will have
to do it
phf: i'd rather not loose a chip in
transit, and since avocation, i don't care about
time frames.
phf: asciilifeform: i don't
think
that's a wasted effort. i got in
touch with zeptobars people again, and my current best option (since
they said shipping
to russia is maddness) is
to
travel moscows sometime in summer and hand deliver
the chip. assuming
that i have one, but i
take it you're no longer interested since "snap4 source"
☟︎ mircea_popescu: ie,
they may have proven
themselves
to you, but
they have not
to me. as far as im concerned, stroutsup = dks =
tim swanson = leah what's her ass = etcetera.
phf: i
think
there's a lot of general "couldn't care less"-ness going on all around. whisperers don't care about asciilifeform's plight
phf: literally none of
these people are directly in my wot, and my interactions with
them are as frustrating as yours. but with patience you can extract useful
things out of
them. yours and mp's conclusion is
that
there's nothing of worth
there, well
then!
mircea_popescu: person > 50yo,
their brain likely isn't connected.
to anything.
a111: Logged on 2017-03-08 23:57 asciilifeform:
this isn't
the only 1 on
the net, either, i found several,
they bought lispms, one
took hundreds of photos of himself 'hipstering' near it,
then one final one where it (??!) burned down
mircea_popescu: he might also not have a more useful clue
than quoted.
a111: Logged on 2017-02-19 17:37 phf: i'm not sure, but i remember you have
to put a handful of magic incantations
to live fix clx on genera
to make it connect
to crapple's x11
mircea_popescu: and yes, i understand how fucking petryfing and utterly enraging
this is, "shit, wtf do
these dorks sit on i need and
they won't say"
mircea_popescu: any one line is also passible of having been skipped / partially parsed and
then silently dumped / etc.
a111: Logged on 2017-03-08 23:26 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i did describe earlier, having concluded a few yrs ago
that it is cheaper, easier, moar pleasant,
to cut appart 'snap4' emulator (i have a pc build here ~with debug symbols~, comes apart in ida nicely)
than
to suffer with nitric acid and electron microscope
mircea_popescu: unlikely, in light of
this conversation, but yes, in light of
the bias load.
a111: Logged on 2017-01-07 19:02 asciilifeform: all i got, for
the most part, is what is in
the wall-o-deadtree manuals, and what i gleaned from reversing 'snap4' binary in ida.
mircea_popescu: not
that
there's anything wrong with it, as a device. it's funny, even. but if man becomes his devices man misses out on
things which, upon examination, man did not want
to miss.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform
there.is.a.cost.to.kindergartner.knows.device.
phf: he's welcome, in his own words,
to "go, implement". having read
that code, i'm unconvinced
that it's
the "buddha's front gate"
to a working lispm fpga
mircea_popescu: different apparently from merely
the momentary rhetorical issue.
phf: it never occured
that he wanted
the link. when he said "i want snap4 source" i assumed he's
talking about
the original alpha source, or a complete working lispm emulator from scratch, a spherical horse of "working, readable lispm emulator", rather
then what's actually
there
☟︎ mircea_popescu: asciilifeform
that's such rank nonsense,
the fuck would anyone care.
phf: asciilifeform comes on very strong with
the whole "i know" shtick, so i simply assumed
that he knows what he wants
to know.
mircea_popescu: hey, it never occured
to me, or
them, until it occured.
mircea_popescu: tru story : i wrote
to romanian minister of foreign affairs incensed romanian consul failed
to answer my emails.
turns out... clever spamfilter, woman was mortified.
mircea_popescu: phf emails also basically suck. who even reads
them. do
they even arrive anymore ? etc.
mircea_popescu: "see
that chick at
the
table
two over ? no don't look! yeah! so she knows i'm
trying
to get laid, and doesn't want me
to get laid!!11"
phf: i don't know anyone who has direct line of communication
to kalman, short of dks, but brad parker is notoriously spotty at communication and 4 emails is ~simply not enough~