asciilifeform: in the course of which most of it would be destroyed

asciilifeform: the only way it could really change hands is physical conquest of entire continent

asciilifeform: go steal 10000tB.

asciilifeform: trinque: see their usenet archive to learn what happens to material that the 1990s-birthdayed morons don't give a damn about

asciilifeform: it's as uninteresting as the fact that the author might still have it on some ancient 8mm tape

asciilifeform: decimation: but fat lot of good it does anyone else

asciilifeform: decimation: they have almost everything

asciilifeform: decimation: yes, it

asciilifeform: and if it is ever there, it will almost certainly be because i will have found the time to scan it & post it.

asciilifeform: it isn't there

asciilifeform: for instance, go find peter kogge's 'symbolic computers' on warez.

asciilifeform: trinque: warez only really works for popular things

asciilifeform: to anyone who ever wondered about what the net would look like if it were controlled by publishers, rather than telecoms: it would look like the academia web.

asciilifeform: we don't have a mechanism for producing the good stuff separately, yet. ☟︎

asciilifeform: but this changes nothing

asciilifeform: since mircea_popescu is out, i will have to fill in for him and point out that yes, 99.9999% percent of the material is crud

asciilifeform: and generally the answer is 'constantly'

asciilifeform: the frustration of the activity is directly proportional to how often i end up 'following a dead link' - that is, trying to access something - anything - referred to in any work, and finding out that it isn't in the collection or i'm not cleared for it

asciilifeform: !s spittoon

asciilifeform: but this is a case of 'the spittoon'

asciilifeform: PeterL: so it isn't merely or even primarily about recent publications

asciilifeform: most of what i read is '70s-'90s and a good chunk of it is book

asciilifeform: but yes

asciilifeform: i'm not even satisfied that he did it himself

asciilifeform: decimation: the authors virtually never see any positive cashflow

asciilifeform: and if it takes ww3 to eliminate the reasons for this - then i am enthusiastically in favour of ww3.

asciilifeform: today 'library' could be anywhere with a net connection - but isn't

asciilifeform: to 'shorten the ooda loop'

asciilifeform: the whole point of a library, originally (ancient and medieval worlds) was so you don't have to write to phriend across the sea 'please send me work xxxxx' and get it two years later when you forget what it was even for

asciilifeform: !s ooda loop

asciilifeform: nubbins`: mildly surprised there's no market for os-free laptops of somewhat rugged construction << iirc the term of art is 'lemon market'

asciilifeform: not idiot 'winamp playlists' of titles

asciilifeform: PeterL: browsing for me implies instant access to full text

asciilifeform: this is easy with print, difficult with www, but absolutely impossible with www that someone else is cranking for you

asciilifeform: but just to massage brain

asciilifeform: most of the time when i go to that library it isn't even for a specific rational purpose ☟︎

asciilifeform: i browse.

asciilifeform: speaking of the online stuff, really

asciilifeform: PeterL: approximately.

asciilifeform: rather than 'fetch me XXXXX'

asciilifeform: PeterL: someone suggested bribery & shills before. it doesn't work, because my use pattern is 'grep at 3am when moon is full'

asciilifeform: (who would put it there, and why?)

asciilifeform: and no, none of it is on warez of any kind

asciilifeform: because 'anyone who's anyone can read on www' or the like.

asciilifeform: because even the things still issued in print - many of the print subscriptions at this place were allowed to lapse

asciilifeform: there has been a very sharp decline in the past few yrs in what i am able to access at the library

asciilifeform: and i pay actual money just to be permitted in the library

asciilifeform: nope

asciilifeform: online ones - no.

asciilifeform: fact is, i can go and read print materials at uni library

asciilifeform: (some newer cars can actually be reflashed through the music player, famously.)

asciilifeform: actually i have no idea if flashable. could very well be. but no vendor upgrade has ever been released, nor is there any obvious means of applying one

asciilifeform: incidentally, buggy+nonflashable is common as dirt. my car, for instance, has a buggy cabin thermostat controller.

asciilifeform: the option of not having the bugs is presented as not even thinkable. ☟︎

asciilifeform: (why? don't ask me)

asciilifeform: trinque: most cdrom drives have reflashable fw, incidentally.

asciilifeform: trinque: hd firmware diddling is usually interesting at boot

asciilifeform: jurov: even something very modest like 16 begins to suffer from buffering problems if actually used in anger

asciilifeform: http://www.servethehome.com/unbuffered-registered-ecc-memory-difference-ecc-udimms-rdimms << likbez re: ecc & buffering

asciilifeform: (ddr3 is the type of dram affected by 'rowhammer')

asciilifeform: though i'm uncertain re: whether ddr3 even exists in buffered-ecc variant

asciilifeform: not that i know of. unrelated

asciilifeform: trinque, jurov: see also recently publicized 'rowhammer' effect.

asciilifeform: the solidest gold toilet available

asciilifeform: jurov: i generally buy boards that require 'buffered ecc'

asciilifeform: other than that, i cannot comment on the linked item

asciilifeform: generally only 'server market' boards that -require- ecc, actually work with it.

asciilifeform: jurov: be careful with the ecc thing. many boards will take the dimms, but won't actually -use- ecc

asciilifeform: jurov: own this one ^ ?

asciilifeform: so if you want to buy hardware, do it while you can.

asciilifeform: but we all know where the train is going

asciilifeform: so not favoured by microshit

asciilifeform: and is the 'younger son'

asciilifeform: trinque: amd is not 'angelic', it is simply behind the usg schedule because, elementary, smaller market share

asciilifeform: this should tell you everything you need to know.

asciilifeform: as for 'consumer' junk, recent intel boards have nintendo-style signed boot preventing use of linuxbios

asciilifeform: supposedly user-controllable, but srsly l0l

asciilifeform: 'remote management'

asciilifeform: trinque: for instance, that recent intel server boards all include -prominently advertised- hardware rootkits

asciilifeform: trinque: there are other useful facts to know about intel

asciilifeform: even chinese 'loongson' is built with american w4r4z fab tools.

asciilifeform: there is no 'clean' cpu vendor on the planet today.

asciilifeform: trinque: amd is, recall, also american. but it does not have the history of outright warfare against its customers, or the surreptitious collaboration with microshit, that intel does.

asciilifeform: last i checked, i actually found an appropriate board. about 1k usd for mobo alone.

asciilifeform: (for human use, typically want video boards, for instance.)

asciilifeform: esp. if you want expansion slots

asciilifeform: jurov: but not so many for amd.

asciilifeform: jurov: -must-

asciilifeform: !s ecc

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: this was actually discussed in #b-a on several occasions

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: you buy a number of things and bolt them together...

asciilifeform with same result

asciilifeform goes through this ritual every year or so

asciilifeform: there are how many manufacturers of amd boards with support for ecc ram? 2? 1?

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i've been wanting to build a successor to my '07 machine for a few yrs now, and at this point not sure that it will happen at all

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: the parts aren't getting any more findable.

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: betcha 9 out of 10 times it is used because laptop.

asciilifeform: i think the japanese call this situation 'uncanny valley'

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it has weird and very annoying quirks. just like actual unixen but not exactly, is the best description

asciilifeform: but it is precisely the sata - and the Gb ethernet - which make the pogo what it is