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asciilifeform: or wait, vice versa
asciilifeform: quite possibly this was the juridicial basis for the fella sitting in a ca jail for a us violation
asciilifeform: *narco
asciilifeform: and hence the pretenses of differing laws are just that
asciilifeform: nubbins` et al: of course this is a trick question, because canada (like the rest of the 'civilized' - and even the orcish - world) is signatory to the nacro convention
asciilifeform: nubbins`: this is like /you/ doing time in /iran/ for blasphemy against the prophet because you mailed an iranian a copy of hebdo << nah that would be like me doing time in local state pen for mailing hebdo to teheran
asciilifeform: decimation: with a little chemical magic, yes
asciilifeform: hence you can use pre-tempered whatevers (car axles, etc.) and go straight to $weaponpart
asciilifeform: or hardness of the material in general, so long as it conducts
asciilifeform: electrolysis doesn't give a flying fuck about temper
asciilifeform: (afaik a soviet-only technology, to date, at least in the sense of general-purpose multi-axis milling rather than glorified casting - all you'll find on the subject in english)
asciilifeform: incidentally, this is yet another reason why i try to convince folks to read about electrolytic milling
asciilifeform: and good post-metalwork process (temper)
asciilifeform: marginally.
asciilifeform: those - imported.
asciilifeform: (with respect to self-made items)
asciilifeform: but iirc that's the top of their game
asciilifeform: well, to be fair, they have rockets made from old plumbing
asciilifeform: check out what kind of weapons they fight with.
asciilifeform: no need to pontificate - the folks in palestine are playing 'junkyard wars' warfare as we speak
asciilifeform: most folks who go in for this line of thought, have no idea how much industry is baked into even something like an ak round.
asciilifeform: or hell, a single ak round.
asciilifeform: or even the same 'v1'
asciilifeform: fine. make a me262 with jungle tech.
asciilifeform: decimation: make me so much as a transistor circa 1950 with partizan tech.
asciilifeform: aviation, by and large, only works when you're a mega-state with maxint constantly replaced slaves to parasitise
asciilifeform: decimation: pertinent thread: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=26-11-2014#934786 ☝︎
asciilifeform: thing is, there are multiple overlapping fields of fire re: usg vs exchanges. e.g., banks monitor -all- incoming and outgoing flow
asciilifeform: to make a non-usg exchange in usa
asciilifeform: afaik
asciilifeform: decimation: actually they didn't need to jail - no one dared
asciilifeform: decimation: german 'v1'
asciilifeform: for the current set of lizardfolk
asciilifeform: sure - but which is the desired one
asciilifeform: but separable conceptually
asciilifeform: ideally 1+2, i venture to guess, from their point of view
asciilifeform: as i understand, operating with the 'monetary system as storage battery' model (mr mold's ?) usg has two possible (non-exclusive) agendas re: btc: 1) steal charge from the battery 2) blow up the battery
asciilifeform: but what'd be the 'win' here ?
asciilifeform: the actual purpose of every usg mil engagement since korea
asciilifeform: but i can see the 'win' from afghan - lockheed, grumman, halliburton, general dynamics, etc. get to churn inventory
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 100% same as afghan campaign '03-present
asciilifeform: where 1) idiot fed pays 10x 2) mr jihad buys 10x normal coin 3) ??? 4) go to 1
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the kill shot would involve an 'arse-mouth system', no?
asciilifeform: 'woah my shit is worth 10x, sell' goes typical lamer
asciilifeform: and less noise, less fuss, than gasenwagen
asciilifeform: for some purposes 'colouring' existing btc as funkenstein_ described would work
asciilifeform: it is worth asking what usg would be trying to accomplish with fedcoin
asciilifeform: funkenstein_ has it
asciilifeform: in exchange for freshly printed green
asciilifeform: (as a candidate for 'fedcoin')
asciilifeform: an altcoin (with some form of key escrow) still seems likely imho
asciilifeform: nor enabled them to mint debased coin at will
asciilifeform: what do they do when it is time to confiscate? revoke the blessing on the coin? this doesn't move it back into the state coffer
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: fedcoin carved from bitcoin is missing key feature for them - forced transfer
asciilifeform: but wanted to make some kind of statement against dice
asciilifeform: iirc he understood that other folks would choose to relay the 'bad' tx
asciilifeform: !s taxcoin
asciilifeform: !s whitelist
asciilifeform: !s whitelisting
asciilifeform distinctly recalls
asciilifeform: some idiot had 'whitelist'
asciilifeform: didn't this already have one go around ?
asciilifeform: seems like inevitably will be tried
asciilifeform: but i get the legal fiction involved, yes
asciilifeform: that it was servants of the crown who not only showed up to dekulakize the electrician, but handed out jail term
asciilifeform: the state helpfully did it for them
asciilifeform: except they did go to the state. the heirs, note, didn't show up with rifle to take it
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: so, under this concept, if cannot prove that it is yours, it reverts to the last registered owner?
asciilifeform: l0l
asciilifeform unable to find 'constructive title' in reference; only found 'constructive possession'
asciilifeform: are picassos presumed to come from dope work ?
asciilifeform: any fr jurists here? davout ?
asciilifeform ianal
asciilifeform: was picasso listed as an 'except so' ?
asciilifeform: (which a sufficiently heavy bag of benjies would in principle be)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i always read it as 'plebe may not possess allocatory capital tokens' thing
asciilifeform not expert on the practical mechanics of electric feudalism
asciilifeform: or at least a coalition of folks who are able to penalize you for violating the title (could wot do this? possibly)
asciilifeform: not necessarily the modern totalitarian monstrosity. but state in some form
asciilifeform: decimation: meaningless without state as far as i can see
asciilifeform caught up on log... finally
asciilifeform: trinque: guys where is my 5mil in VC cheese for deedbot?! << obligatory >> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-06-2014#700916 ☝︎
asciilifeform: it's copied exactly off the forest laws of medieval england << who, then, are the nobles? is obamitler walking around in seal coat? warren buffett ?
asciilifeform: http://xkcd.com/180 << obligatory
asciilifeform: 'Under the terms of the deal, Emery is expecting return to Canada to serve his sentence, said Tousaw.' << wai wat!?!?! canada offers 'sit in jail for your crimes in usa' service? how about iran? can i do time in canada for blasphemy against the prophet ?
asciilifeform: (it was an essay largely about this concept)
asciilifeform: the people I would trust to keep my money for me are...well..not likeable at all << obligatory: my original review of MPEx.
asciilifeform: too few balls, they have, to utter 'an ought' straight up ☟︎
asciilifeform: 'It is possible to construct a rational argument, from broadly agreeable premises, that leads directly to the NAP...' << these folks use 'natural law' crapolade as a crutch to avoid the demand of having agency
asciilifeform: o say not at all, but it isn't aggressively tossed in anyone's face and hence 'does not exist' in the mind of the populist idiots..
asciilifeform: 'In fact, I rather suspect that GPG will fade away as other implementations gain currency. It's old, crusty, built from barely readable source code, license terms inhibited, and maintained by people with a pathologically difficult attitude toward various important software development philosophy (e.g. API and UI design)' << mega-l0l. thing is, in a way the fool is right, it 'faded away' the same way common lisp did. which is t
asciilifeform: usg will readily dispute this claiming they actually DO have title to bitcoin they confiscate << guaranteed.
asciilifeform: other than, arguably, satoshi, which is WHY his disappearance is so important << what would a picture with a living satoshi look like ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: castles and drawings by picasso are not fungible << i'd argue that picassos are more or less 'analogue bitcoin' for the ultra-bezzlerich. hence my interest in the linked turd
asciilifeform: if 'possession is 9/10th of the law,' as is the maxim, why not 10/10 ?
asciilifeform: and why exactly is this concept of permission from the state to be recognized as the owner, a useful thing ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the problem is they didn't have title << does a suitcase full of benjies have 'title' ? or a tonne of gold bar? or not because fungible ☟︎
asciilifeform: only buys you a ticket to the jail.
asciilifeform: but if you have a picasso - it is nothing without also having the blue blood.
asciilifeform: if you have half a mil btc, you actually have them